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very funny,
they definitely deserve this for using such a ridiculous place as "lake success" to base their HQ...
and to people who are upset about the trolls(i feel some people may think I am one,) please lighten up and accept the fact that many people are unhappy with Canon's recent releases and pricing.
I was thrilled to buy my first 550D, 24-105 and eventually a 5D Classic. I genuinely liked my Canon cameras and lenses. But as I am not too deep in the system, and have many friends who are on the dark side, it's very easy for me to consider the other side.
I will/have been rooting for Canon to release awesome products at competitive prices, however it has been nothing but disappointment for me for the past year at least.
I thought the 5DIII was a great camera, but I thought it should have been priced around 2800 dollars, and definitely not 500 dollars more than the D800, which many reviews said was better.
I had held off switching to Nikons D700 since the 5DIII/D800 releases(I always thought it was better for my needs than a 5DII) waiting for Photokina and the 6D/D600 release.
I sincerely wanted the 6D to be amazing, but alas it isn't, and it aint cheap either. I can accept over priced lenses, with cheaper cameras, or overpriced cameras, with cheaper lenses, but at this point, I see the lenses being extremely expensive, and the bodies extremely expensive too.
I really hope Canon can release some amazing things soon, but at this point, i'm ordering the D600 later today. Please don't think of people who are upset as simply "trolls"
I do not come on here to upset people, incite arguments, but simply to talk about new products and express my feelings.
I understand people want to be positive and just talk about phototgraphy/photos, but there are plenty of forums for that.... I like to think this is a good place to talk about gear and technology, along with photos.
they definitely deserve this for using such a ridiculous place as "lake success" to base their HQ...
and to people who are upset about the trolls(i feel some people may think I am one,) please lighten up and accept the fact that many people are unhappy with Canon's recent releases and pricing.
I was thrilled to buy my first 550D, 24-105 and eventually a 5D Classic. I genuinely liked my Canon cameras and lenses. But as I am not too deep in the system, and have many friends who are on the dark side, it's very easy for me to consider the other side.
I will/have been rooting for Canon to release awesome products at competitive prices, however it has been nothing but disappointment for me for the past year at least.
I thought the 5DIII was a great camera, but I thought it should have been priced around 2800 dollars, and definitely not 500 dollars more than the D800, which many reviews said was better.
I had held off switching to Nikons D700 since the 5DIII/D800 releases(I always thought it was better for my needs than a 5DII) waiting for Photokina and the 6D/D600 release.
I sincerely wanted the 6D to be amazing, but alas it isn't, and it aint cheap either. I can accept over priced lenses, with cheaper cameras, or overpriced cameras, with cheaper lenses, but at this point, I see the lenses being extremely expensive, and the bodies extremely expensive too.
I really hope Canon can release some amazing things soon, but at this point, i'm ordering the D600 later today. Please don't think of people who are upset as simply "trolls"
I do not come on here to upset people, incite arguments, but simply to talk about new products and express my feelings.
I understand people want to be positive and just talk about phototgraphy/photos, but there are plenty of forums for that.... I like to think this is a good place to talk about gear and technology, along with photos.
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Richard Lane said:Dude, That was very clever, very insightful, and very true!
You just left the part out about the beautiful 100% unobstructed view over-looking Lake Nokin, as compared to the light pole in the parking lot, blocking 3% of Lake Failures view!
Rich
Nice - I also left out the fact that Nokin Village looks better in low light! Of course that would just be speculation for now
In terms of sharing knowledge and experience - I am sharing exactly that. Canon has been consistently behind in terms of overall value and features in their recent cameras. I get by fine with the 9 pt AF system in the 5D MkII but would really like to get a FF system with AF at least on par with the 7D. I don't necessarily need the pro level system of the Mk III - but I don't want to pay more for a system which is inferior to 3 year old systems found in less expensive cameras.
Per my other comment another thread - I will most likely end up buying a used MkIII from someone who is possibly moving to Nikon. Canon will lose that customer and any additional profit margin they would have gotten from selling me a new camera. Who knows, they have lot's of smart people working for them who know a lot more about this market than I do. However, I am a 10 year customer who would have a tough time recommending Canon over Nikon to anyone just getting into the field or stepping up into FF.
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Eiremon said:Richard Lane said:Dude, That was very clever, very insightful, and very true!
You just left the part out about the beautiful 100% unobstructed view over-looking Lake Nokin, as compared to the light pole in the parking lot, blocking 3% of Lake Failures view!
Rich
Nice - I also left out the fact that Nokin Village looks better in low light! Of course that would just be speculation for now
I don't necessarily need the pro level system of the Mk III - but I don't want to pay more for a system which is inferior to 3 year old systems found in less expensive cameras.
Which is? I'm not aware of a three year old FF camera body that sells for less, unless you might be referring to a 5D MK II.
Sure, my 7D costs less than my 5D MK II, but thats because it is a lot less camera. My 5D MK II gets 90% of my use, the 7D being good for situations where there is good light and I'm focal length limited. The AF is indeed good, but not as accurate.
I fell for the hype and bought a D800, which went back after 1100 images. Fine low ISO body, but requires a lot of NR at ISO 800 and over. It can take a minute or two for lightroom to process each tweak to the NR, so you might spend 10 minutes per image. Try doing 500 of them. It spoils the fun of photography.
I'd certainly never recommend one to some unsuspecting newby, it would be a epic fail.
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I was not aware that the 7D's focusing system was less accurate than the 5D MkII's... I realize that just because it has more focus points does not make it better (not all focus points are created equal) but I thought the general consensus was that the 7D's system is superior to the MkII - and perhaps now the 6D. I have used both and find that the 7D's system offers more options / flexibility for the photographer.
I have not used the D800 and can understand that it's not for everyone. I would not recommend it either to a newbie - I would not recommend any FF camera to a newbie. If someone was moving up and had not already made a big investment in glass I do think, at first glance, that the D600 looks like a nice option vs. the 6D.
Bottom line - you can't really go wrong with Canon / Nikon / Sony / etc. All of them offer great cameras which can capture excellent images in the right hands. This is why I am sticking with Canon despite my earlier satire
I have not used the D800 and can understand that it's not for everyone. I would not recommend it either to a newbie - I would not recommend any FF camera to a newbie. If someone was moving up and had not already made a big investment in glass I do think, at first glance, that the D600 looks like a nice option vs. the 6D.
Bottom line - you can't really go wrong with Canon / Nikon / Sony / etc. All of them offer great cameras which can capture excellent images in the right hands. This is why I am sticking with Canon despite my earlier satire
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Love it...great creativity! Let me add a little please....
The mayor of nearby city Lake Seny had this to say about Canon's decision to move to lake failure,"we thought we had a shot at being the new home for canon usa because so many of their executives are golfers, and Lake Seny is known world wide for the quality of our city's driving range".
Industry analyst D.R. Exmer had this to say, "engineers at Canon have been working to increase the quality of their own city driving range by adding things like gapfree micro golf balls, but it seems like golfers continue to prefer the quality of Lake Seny's driving range". Exmer also added, "even folks from nearby lake Nokin drive to lake Seny for the city's driving range"
Ken Blockwell, who was recently seen on Canon's driving range had this to say, "it doesn't matter what city driving range you use, just hit golf shots". "I use cheap plastic golf clubs from the 1980's all the time, and I'll use whatever driving range that's closest, people just need to hit golf shots and forget about the quality of the driving range".
Analyst DR Exmer, upon hearing Blockwell's advice had this to say, "that's the kind of advice I would pay for".
The mayor of nearby city Lake Seny had this to say about Canon's decision to move to lake failure,"we thought we had a shot at being the new home for canon usa because so many of their executives are golfers, and Lake Seny is known world wide for the quality of our city's driving range".
Industry analyst D.R. Exmer had this to say, "engineers at Canon have been working to increase the quality of their own city driving range by adding things like gapfree micro golf balls, but it seems like golfers continue to prefer the quality of Lake Seny's driving range". Exmer also added, "even folks from nearby lake Nokin drive to lake Seny for the city's driving range"
Ken Blockwell, who was recently seen on Canon's driving range had this to say, "it doesn't matter what city driving range you use, just hit golf shots". "I use cheap plastic golf clubs from the 1980's all the time, and I'll use whatever driving range that's closest, people just need to hit golf shots and forget about the quality of the driving range".
Analyst DR Exmer, upon hearing Blockwell's advice had this to say, "that's the kind of advice I would pay for".
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