This is a reformatted copy of an email sent to me from
colleagues in the Netherlands and Germany in Early 2017
*** CONFIRMING *** that an in-the-wild test prototype
was seen in Munich, Germany during a Football match
(that's soccer for you Americans!) that was ALSO CONFIRMED
via an earlier-in-year and later-in-year PHYSICAL closeup examination
of a similar system to be a MEDIUM FORMAT CANON CAMERA that has
a very large CMOS sensor in a body style very similar to a
Canon 1Dx Mark II camera but of course larger in size
to accommodate the larger sensor and lenses.
START OF FIRST EMAIL SENT TO ME FROM NETHERLANDS/GERMANY:
=============================================
RE: Confirmation of Canon 1Dx style body Medium format camera for 2018
This email is to confirm an
October 2016 article from German
camera enthusiasts group "EigenVector",
that an in-the-wild, fully-working
medium format Canon camera was seen
this weekend January 6, 2017 at
Olympiapark München stadium complex
in Munich, Germany during an indoor
football match.
"EigenVector" member "RosenBlatt"
spotted a noted and known European
Canon Engineer hovering undercover
at field-side during an indoor
football match held within the
Olympiapark complex.
Noticing an extremely large lens
mated to very large camera body
that was similar in appearance to a
Canon 1Dx series camera but larger,
"RosenBlatt" attempted to strike up
a conversation with said engineer but
was hastily rebuffed and the Canon
Engineer took hasty leave of the premises.
RosenBlatt's female companion was able
to take photos via her own Canon 5D Mk3
with a long lens to prove once and for
all that Canon is now field testing a
medium format camera.
After examination, these photos proved
nearly identical in looks to a camera
present in photos and video taken in
Japan in early summer 2016.
After an exciting day contacting
our sources in Japan who obtained
the original photos and video,
we are able to confirm some changes
to specifications present in our
earlier report.
The new specification are a
56mm by 42mm CMOS sensor Bayer
Pattern which is a slightly larger
sensor on the vertical than the
56mm by 38mm sensor outlined
in our earlier report.
It is confirmed that this is
a <<MIRRORLESS>> camera!
Resolution is now 8192 by 6036 pixels
still using 16 bits per Red, Green and
Blue colour channel coupled to a newly
added imaging format of 4:4:4 colour-
sampled JPEG-2000 which is wavelet-
based. This has been confirmed by
our sources!
It has also been confirmed to us
that the JPEG-2000 format is in
addition to the normal JPEG used
within all current Canon DSLRs.
It is a user selectable option
allowing full wide gamut image
capture using the wavelet
compression algorithm.
Pixel size has also been confirmed
as being 6.82 microns with an improved
linearity of light capture giving
low-light performance an improvement
of 5% over the already impressive
Canon 1Dx Mk2.
This means lower noise in the shadows
at the same ISO as compared to the
1Dx Mk2.
One massive improvement for usability
is allowing the definition of custom
menu layouts on scrollable 25-item
screens where common camera functions
can be aggregated into a single place.
Five such scrollable 25-item
touchscreen menus can be created
and labelled into a tabbed notebook
style of interface.
These custom menus are created
off-camera as a text file but can
be imported via Wifi or via USB3.
==========================================
END OF FIRST EMAIL SENT TO ME FROM NETHERLANDS/GERMANY.
START OF SECOND EMAIL SENT TO ME FROM NETHERLANDS/GERMANY:
=============================================
Stated Specifications
Canon 1Dx-body Style with 6x4.5-type
Medium Format Camera:
* 56mm by 42mm CMOS sensor Bayer Pattern
* 8192 by 6036 pixels (50 megapixels)
at 6.82 microns per photosite
* Global Shutter Sensor with a
now-specified 14.5 EV at ISO 100
Dynamic range vs 13.5 EV for 1Dx Mk2
It was explained to us that video
shooters could expect a true dynamic
range of 14 stops at ISO 800 which
is better than even the newly
released C700 cinema camera!
This looks well for low-light
shooting at high ISO values
as the EV drop-off curve is
noted to be flatter than the
1Dx Mk2.
* Shutter speed at full frame is
now an <<ASTOUNDING>> 25 fps
which is 3 fps higher than
specified in our earlier
2016 report!
* 4:4:4 colour sampling at 16 bits per
channel RAW and RGB Ultra Wide Gamut
* ISO range is ISO 100 to 51200 with
extensions down to 50 and up to 409600
* JPEG-2000 file format wavelet based
compression 4:4:4 colour sampling
at up to 16 bits per channel for
wide gamut imaging. Normal JPEG is
still available!
* Dual pixel autofocus
* Articulated and rugged OLED
Touchscreen with horizontal swivel
out to left and full 360 degree
vertical rotate with live-view at
1920 by 1200 pixels usable for
critical focus. Entire liveview
screen area is touch-enabled for
fast autofocusing over entire
sensor area!
* Five User defined and scrollable
25-item touchscreen menus for
creating multiple custom camera
option and function layouts!
* onboard GPS and 6-axis MEMS sensor
for XYZ rotation and XYZ movement
metadata recording on all still
images and periodically within
video files
* Two DIGIC processors each with an
embedded ultra wide gamut wavelet
image compression core and a wide
gamut MPEG4 video compression core
* One USB3 Type-C connector, one HDMI
connector and One RJ-45 1gb/sec
Ethernet connector
* Two C-Fast slots but NO SD card slots!
* Combined Battery and Internal hard
drive grip accessory allowing
<<TWO>> 63.5mm (2.5 inch?) SATA SSD
drives for high capacity still
photo and video file storage.
We have confirmed that testing was
completed with two inserted
3-terabyte Samsung SSD removable
storage drives!
* 802.11ac Wifi with multiple logon
accounts to autosend and <<EXCHANGE>>
photos too!
Two Canon MF cameras can obtain
photos from each other via
peer-to-peer Wifi and download
photos from external sources to
local C-Fast cards and internal
SSD drives!
* Confirmation that video recording
is supported at DCI 4k (4096x2160),
UHDTV (3840x2160) and HDTV (1920x1080)
downsampled from the full sensor
area at 24 fps, 25 fps, 30 fps,
50 fps, 60 fps, 100 fps and 120 fps.
HDMI output is confirmed clean of
any overlays at 4k DCI, 3840 and
1080 resolutions!
* We have confirmed that video
recording has eschewed Motion-JPEG
Intraframe compression and gone to
Motion-Wavelet intraframe
compression at up to 12 bits per
channel 4:4:4 colour sampling.
It is also confirmed to us that
MPEG4 interframe compression at
10 bits per channel 4:2:2 colour
sampling is now enabled!
* Canon Clog/Clog2/Clog3 and five
User-definable Log file entries
are confirmed present.
* 3.5mm audio input jack is present
* We have now confirmed that a more
expensive 120 megapixels at 8-to-10
fps version will be released at the
same time!
* It is confirmed that a 50mm and 85mm
lens in addition to a 600 mm
telephoto were tested in the wild
with four new zoom lenses to be
introduced at the same time for
the new medium format mount sizes.
It is confirmed that the lenses
will contain on-lens LED displays
for easy viewing of statistical
information even in low-light
situations!
* It is confirmed that a mid-2018
introduction date is specified
* Price for Body-only was given as a
range from 12000 Euros to as much as
16000 Euros at introduction! This is
<<VERY INEXPENSIVE>> compared with
Hasselblad or Phase One but with
a 25 fps burst shooting speed at
50 megapixels!
* It has been confirmed that lenses
will not be cheap and from 1.5x to
3x the price of the premium EF lenses
at equivalent focal lengths and at
least twice as heavy! You will need
to start working out and beef up
your tripods!
============================================
END OF SECOND EMAIL SENT TO ME FROM NETHERLANDS/GERMANY.
As an addendum to my second email, it was outlined to me
that the primary still photo codec to be used to compress photos
is a 4:4:4 Wavelet-based JPEG-2000 codec and the colour sampling
is 16-bits per channel native BUT but user choosable downsampling
of additional 12 bits, 10 bits and 8 bits per channel.
It was also outlined to me that the primary highest-fidelity
motion video codec is a Motion Wavelet-based ALSO with
4:4:4 16-bits NATIVE and also user-selectable per channel
colour sampling intraframe codec. No mention or RAW video
recording was made in my received emails but that RAW FORMAT
still photo shooting at 16 bits per channel IS AVAILABLE!.
And thirdly, it was outlined to me that the primary INTERFRAME
codec that has the longest recording times is a variation on
an H.265 codec (NOT the MPEG-4 outlined above!) that is to
be 4:2:2 quality with an option to choose ONE OF 8-bits,
10 bits ...OR... 12-bits per colour channel of colour sampling.
The camera NATIVELY captures at 16 bits per channel and
down-samples to the 12, 10 and 8-bits per channel.
Those bodes very well for high-dynamic range imaging
and by mentioning the specification terms of 14.5 EV
at ISO 100, I can PERSONALLY conclude on a technical basis,
there SHOULD BE a noise-reduction at ISO levels at or above
6400 between 5% to 15% and more over the already
impressive 1Dx Mk 2. This means that shooting at say
ISO 1600 you could probably shoot a few minutes after
sunset scene and almost NO NOISE will be seen and
colours will still be nearly fully saturated!
And finally, it has been confirmed by my sources that
TWO VERSIONS of the camera will be sold. A 50 megapixel
version and a 120 megapixel version to replace the 5Ds/r
camera.
It is indeed fully mirrorless and WILL shoot a full burst
of 25 frames per second at 50 megapixels which is an
astonishingly high speed! I hope they have the cooling
system and battery life down pat on these cameras!
I received a range of 7 fps to 10 fps burst rate shooting speed
for the 120 megapixel version of the medium format mirrorless.
The only concern I have is paying between 12 000 to 16 000 Euros
which I think is a bit steep BUT at 25 fps at 50 megapixels it might
change the medium format game ENTIRELY especially if the body
style stays with the 1Dx Mk 2 style!
I know this may seem like an utterly unbelievable rumour
to you, but my sources are rather impressive in their contacts
SO I MUST give them the benefit of the doubt because of their
personal and peer standing in still imaging and video engineering circles!
It looks like Canon is getting very serious about high end photography
at larger sensor sizes. I think more than a few pros would switch to
Canon MF if the body style was kept the same as the 1Dx Mk2 and
the burst shooting speed actually IS the stated 25 fps!
That speed CHANGES EVERYTHING within action sports and
wildlife photography circles at 50 megapixels and a 120 megapixel
version also changes everything for landscape, portrait
and fashion photographers!
**** I should note even though the above emails
**** state that photos of the prototype camera were taken
**** by 2nd/3rd parties, I DO NOT HAVE THOSE PHOTOS !!!
What do you think about the specs?
Does anybody have any 3rd party confirmation
of these specs to share with canon rumors?
colleagues in the Netherlands and Germany in Early 2017
*** CONFIRMING *** that an in-the-wild test prototype
was seen in Munich, Germany during a Football match
(that's soccer for you Americans!) that was ALSO CONFIRMED
via an earlier-in-year and later-in-year PHYSICAL closeup examination
of a similar system to be a MEDIUM FORMAT CANON CAMERA that has
a very large CMOS sensor in a body style very similar to a
Canon 1Dx Mark II camera but of course larger in size
to accommodate the larger sensor and lenses.
START OF FIRST EMAIL SENT TO ME FROM NETHERLANDS/GERMANY:
=============================================
RE: Confirmation of Canon 1Dx style body Medium format camera for 2018
This email is to confirm an
October 2016 article from German
camera enthusiasts group "EigenVector",
that an in-the-wild, fully-working
medium format Canon camera was seen
this weekend January 6, 2017 at
Olympiapark München stadium complex
in Munich, Germany during an indoor
football match.
"EigenVector" member "RosenBlatt"
spotted a noted and known European
Canon Engineer hovering undercover
at field-side during an indoor
football match held within the
Olympiapark complex.
Noticing an extremely large lens
mated to very large camera body
that was similar in appearance to a
Canon 1Dx series camera but larger,
"RosenBlatt" attempted to strike up
a conversation with said engineer but
was hastily rebuffed and the Canon
Engineer took hasty leave of the premises.
RosenBlatt's female companion was able
to take photos via her own Canon 5D Mk3
with a long lens to prove once and for
all that Canon is now field testing a
medium format camera.
After examination, these photos proved
nearly identical in looks to a camera
present in photos and video taken in
Japan in early summer 2016.
After an exciting day contacting
our sources in Japan who obtained
the original photos and video,
we are able to confirm some changes
to specifications present in our
earlier report.
The new specification are a
56mm by 42mm CMOS sensor Bayer
Pattern which is a slightly larger
sensor on the vertical than the
56mm by 38mm sensor outlined
in our earlier report.
It is confirmed that this is
a <<MIRRORLESS>> camera!
Resolution is now 8192 by 6036 pixels
still using 16 bits per Red, Green and
Blue colour channel coupled to a newly
added imaging format of 4:4:4 colour-
sampled JPEG-2000 which is wavelet-
based. This has been confirmed by
our sources!
It has also been confirmed to us
that the JPEG-2000 format is in
addition to the normal JPEG used
within all current Canon DSLRs.
It is a user selectable option
allowing full wide gamut image
capture using the wavelet
compression algorithm.
Pixel size has also been confirmed
as being 6.82 microns with an improved
linearity of light capture giving
low-light performance an improvement
of 5% over the already impressive
Canon 1Dx Mk2.
This means lower noise in the shadows
at the same ISO as compared to the
1Dx Mk2.
One massive improvement for usability
is allowing the definition of custom
menu layouts on scrollable 25-item
screens where common camera functions
can be aggregated into a single place.
Five such scrollable 25-item
touchscreen menus can be created
and labelled into a tabbed notebook
style of interface.
These custom menus are created
off-camera as a text file but can
be imported via Wifi or via USB3.
==========================================
END OF FIRST EMAIL SENT TO ME FROM NETHERLANDS/GERMANY.
START OF SECOND EMAIL SENT TO ME FROM NETHERLANDS/GERMANY:
=============================================
Stated Specifications
Canon 1Dx-body Style with 6x4.5-type
Medium Format Camera:
* 56mm by 42mm CMOS sensor Bayer Pattern
* 8192 by 6036 pixels (50 megapixels)
at 6.82 microns per photosite
* Global Shutter Sensor with a
now-specified 14.5 EV at ISO 100
Dynamic range vs 13.5 EV for 1Dx Mk2
It was explained to us that video
shooters could expect a true dynamic
range of 14 stops at ISO 800 which
is better than even the newly
released C700 cinema camera!
This looks well for low-light
shooting at high ISO values
as the EV drop-off curve is
noted to be flatter than the
1Dx Mk2.
* Shutter speed at full frame is
now an <<ASTOUNDING>> 25 fps
which is 3 fps higher than
specified in our earlier
2016 report!
* 4:4:4 colour sampling at 16 bits per
channel RAW and RGB Ultra Wide Gamut
* ISO range is ISO 100 to 51200 with
extensions down to 50 and up to 409600
* JPEG-2000 file format wavelet based
compression 4:4:4 colour sampling
at up to 16 bits per channel for
wide gamut imaging. Normal JPEG is
still available!
* Dual pixel autofocus
* Articulated and rugged OLED
Touchscreen with horizontal swivel
out to left and full 360 degree
vertical rotate with live-view at
1920 by 1200 pixels usable for
critical focus. Entire liveview
screen area is touch-enabled for
fast autofocusing over entire
sensor area!
* Five User defined and scrollable
25-item touchscreen menus for
creating multiple custom camera
option and function layouts!
* onboard GPS and 6-axis MEMS sensor
for XYZ rotation and XYZ movement
metadata recording on all still
images and periodically within
video files
* Two DIGIC processors each with an
embedded ultra wide gamut wavelet
image compression core and a wide
gamut MPEG4 video compression core
* One USB3 Type-C connector, one HDMI
connector and One RJ-45 1gb/sec
Ethernet connector
* Two C-Fast slots but NO SD card slots!
* Combined Battery and Internal hard
drive grip accessory allowing
<<TWO>> 63.5mm (2.5 inch?) SATA SSD
drives for high capacity still
photo and video file storage.
We have confirmed that testing was
completed with two inserted
3-terabyte Samsung SSD removable
storage drives!
* 802.11ac Wifi with multiple logon
accounts to autosend and <<EXCHANGE>>
photos too!
Two Canon MF cameras can obtain
photos from each other via
peer-to-peer Wifi and download
photos from external sources to
local C-Fast cards and internal
SSD drives!
* Confirmation that video recording
is supported at DCI 4k (4096x2160),
UHDTV (3840x2160) and HDTV (1920x1080)
downsampled from the full sensor
area at 24 fps, 25 fps, 30 fps,
50 fps, 60 fps, 100 fps and 120 fps.
HDMI output is confirmed clean of
any overlays at 4k DCI, 3840 and
1080 resolutions!
* We have confirmed that video
recording has eschewed Motion-JPEG
Intraframe compression and gone to
Motion-Wavelet intraframe
compression at up to 12 bits per
channel 4:4:4 colour sampling.
It is also confirmed to us that
MPEG4 interframe compression at
10 bits per channel 4:2:2 colour
sampling is now enabled!
* Canon Clog/Clog2/Clog3 and five
User-definable Log file entries
are confirmed present.
* 3.5mm audio input jack is present
* We have now confirmed that a more
expensive 120 megapixels at 8-to-10
fps version will be released at the
same time!
* It is confirmed that a 50mm and 85mm
lens in addition to a 600 mm
telephoto were tested in the wild
with four new zoom lenses to be
introduced at the same time for
the new medium format mount sizes.
It is confirmed that the lenses
will contain on-lens LED displays
for easy viewing of statistical
information even in low-light
situations!
* It is confirmed that a mid-2018
introduction date is specified
* Price for Body-only was given as a
range from 12000 Euros to as much as
16000 Euros at introduction! This is
<<VERY INEXPENSIVE>> compared with
Hasselblad or Phase One but with
a 25 fps burst shooting speed at
50 megapixels!
* It has been confirmed that lenses
will not be cheap and from 1.5x to
3x the price of the premium EF lenses
at equivalent focal lengths and at
least twice as heavy! You will need
to start working out and beef up
your tripods!
============================================
END OF SECOND EMAIL SENT TO ME FROM NETHERLANDS/GERMANY.
As an addendum to my second email, it was outlined to me
that the primary still photo codec to be used to compress photos
is a 4:4:4 Wavelet-based JPEG-2000 codec and the colour sampling
is 16-bits per channel native BUT but user choosable downsampling
of additional 12 bits, 10 bits and 8 bits per channel.
It was also outlined to me that the primary highest-fidelity
motion video codec is a Motion Wavelet-based ALSO with
4:4:4 16-bits NATIVE and also user-selectable per channel
colour sampling intraframe codec. No mention or RAW video
recording was made in my received emails but that RAW FORMAT
still photo shooting at 16 bits per channel IS AVAILABLE!.
And thirdly, it was outlined to me that the primary INTERFRAME
codec that has the longest recording times is a variation on
an H.265 codec (NOT the MPEG-4 outlined above!) that is to
be 4:2:2 quality with an option to choose ONE OF 8-bits,
10 bits ...OR... 12-bits per colour channel of colour sampling.
The camera NATIVELY captures at 16 bits per channel and
down-samples to the 12, 10 and 8-bits per channel.
Those bodes very well for high-dynamic range imaging
and by mentioning the specification terms of 14.5 EV
at ISO 100, I can PERSONALLY conclude on a technical basis,
there SHOULD BE a noise-reduction at ISO levels at or above
6400 between 5% to 15% and more over the already
impressive 1Dx Mk 2. This means that shooting at say
ISO 1600 you could probably shoot a few minutes after
sunset scene and almost NO NOISE will be seen and
colours will still be nearly fully saturated!
And finally, it has been confirmed by my sources that
TWO VERSIONS of the camera will be sold. A 50 megapixel
version and a 120 megapixel version to replace the 5Ds/r
camera.
It is indeed fully mirrorless and WILL shoot a full burst
of 25 frames per second at 50 megapixels which is an
astonishingly high speed! I hope they have the cooling
system and battery life down pat on these cameras!
I received a range of 7 fps to 10 fps burst rate shooting speed
for the 120 megapixel version of the medium format mirrorless.
The only concern I have is paying between 12 000 to 16 000 Euros
which I think is a bit steep BUT at 25 fps at 50 megapixels it might
change the medium format game ENTIRELY especially if the body
style stays with the 1Dx Mk 2 style!
I know this may seem like an utterly unbelievable rumour
to you, but my sources are rather impressive in their contacts
SO I MUST give them the benefit of the doubt because of their
personal and peer standing in still imaging and video engineering circles!
It looks like Canon is getting very serious about high end photography
at larger sensor sizes. I think more than a few pros would switch to
Canon MF if the body style was kept the same as the 1Dx Mk2 and
the burst shooting speed actually IS the stated 25 fps!
That speed CHANGES EVERYTHING within action sports and
wildlife photography circles at 50 megapixels and a 120 megapixel
version also changes everything for landscape, portrait
and fashion photographers!
**** I should note even though the above emails
**** state that photos of the prototype camera were taken
**** by 2nd/3rd parties, I DO NOT HAVE THOSE PHOTOS !!!
What do you think about the specs?
Does anybody have any 3rd party confirmation
of these specs to share with canon rumors?
