Don Haines said:
I have a few problems with the entire thread.....
First, Canon is a very secretive company and the release of such information (pixel sizes, frame rates, performance, etc, etc, etc), is unparalleled and flies in the face of non disclosure agreements.
Secondly, the numbers do not make sense..... it has 5 percent better performance than a 1DX2 I per pixel, yet has twice the pixel count and 4 times the sensor area?
Thirdly, we have a situation where one person "knows the truth" and there is no Independent confirmation......
This would be rated CR -9....... good for entertainment, but about as reliable as reports that Elvis is still alive and lives in a secret base on the far side of the moon.....
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Now THIS COMMENT is definitely in my area of expertise!
Light-gathering performance is not linear in most CMOS chip
circuitry processes because of MULTIPLE issues such as the
data transfer rate between sensor sites to CPU/GPU and the
quality of ADC (Analog-to-Digiotal Convertor) circuits
such as would be present on such a large size MF camera.
The amount of TIME required to do any ADC, Anti-aliasing
and YCbCr/RGB pixels conversion PER FRAME! Remember,
we are also talking about around 2,5 times the amount of
pixel data versus the 1Dx Mk2 (20 megapixels vs 50 megapixels)
AND if that 25 fps burst shooting rate is true THEN there is
also much less time to do it in! That means a 5% announced
quality increase is actually MUCH MUCH BETTER than
I would have normally expected! In fact, by many
metrics, quality SHOULD BE WORSE than the
1Dxmk2 if this Canon MF camera really does
shoot at 25 fps! If that much engineering
has gone into into to give us that much of
a 5% quality increase such as reduced noise
levels and better low-light photography
then I think we are in for a REAL TREAT!
In terms of NDA's, our dealer has SAID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to me!
He merely nodded slowly and smiled coyly BUT IN MY BOOK that is
good enough for me! Something BIG is coming down the pipeline
from Canon!
And my contacts in Germany/Netherlands are NOT employees
of Canon and have NO contractual obligation to Canon AT ALL!!!
AND if they DO have the public videos of a seen-in-the-wild
camera then TOUGH BEANS! That's now public knowledge taken
from a publicly accessible place -- Again, tough beans on that
as there is NO contractual/NDA obligation upon those persons!
And I saw the first photo via a videophone this weekend
and I can now tell you that in my opinion, this is NOT BUNK
and I also can give you a better description. It DEFINITELY
looks like a beefed-up Canon 1Dx Mk2. Based upon the size
of the hands in the photos I would say this camera is about
1,5 to 1,75 times the width and height of the 1Dx mk2
but not that much thicker front-to-back
I have some Canon 1Dc cameras, so I am saying
it's DEFINITELY a bigger camera but from the description
of the video as described to me (I have not seen THAT YET!)
the weight I do not think will be an issue as I understand that
lenses and body will be lighter-weight magnesium alloy
and lighter-weight LIKELY flourite-ceramic (i.e. PROBABLY
alumina-like flouro-Al2 O3) lenses. Since the "Canon Engineer"
was a smallish-gentleman and was manhandling the lens/body
like it was nothing, I expect weight to be a non-issue here!
I can tell you that the lens is HUGE! Based upon
the size of Arri-65 film/cinema cameras I've used,
I am going to estimate the sensor size would be
considered LIKELY to be a full 65mm Arri-65 cinema
like in size! It's a monster lens which looked like it
was probably an 85mm prime lens as a guess!
There was NO SHUTTER NOISE as was described
to me so it was definitely mirrorless and the live-view
screen was MUCH BIGGER than the 1Dxmk2's!
When I get the ACTUAL JPEG/MPEG photo and video files
sent by email to me I will show them here! A video phone
call does not do what I saw justice!
NOW in terms of actual specifications, it is NOT CLEAR TO ME
as to HOW those were obtained and sent to me! I cannot state
anything more on that as I simply DO NOT KNOW the background
of the rather VERY SPECIFIC CAMERA SPECIFICATIONS!
Those will need verification but based upon OTHER people's
gravevine talk I have been privy to, those specs are not
totally out-of-line from what i've heard previously.
It seems to be a Canon IMPERATIVE that full-sensor
size shooting burst rate was ALWAYS MEANT to be
at least 24/25 frames per second at 50 megapixels!
I've been told Canon wants to COMPLETELY OWN
the pro sports/action/wildlife photography side of
things and a 25 fps MF camera would DEFINITELY DO THAT!
...AND...
I've also heard they want to bring down the prices
of Phase One/Hasselblad portrait/landscape quality
downto less stratospheric price levels! And a 120
megapixels (7-to10 fps) 1Dx Mk2 style body at
10 000 to 16 000 Euros would ALSO do that!
So in my books, this is now a CR-1 rumour!
So phooey on you "Proof is in the Pudding" naysayers
which is actually a North American expression
anyways, not a Euro expression!
I'm eating' the pudding because right now it looks delicious!
Kudos to Canon --- My money is waiting for you to take it!