Canon Will Continue to Expand the RF Lens Lineup at 6 to 8 Lenses a Year

Interesting!! So Sigma could port their 300-600 to RF if they chose to do so?! Given that Sigma offers a lens mount conversion service, the differences between mounts must be well known and relatively minor. My guess is that Canon is lying.
 
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Interesting!! So Sigma could port their 300-600 to RF if they chose to do so?! Given that Sigma offers a lens mount conversion service, the differences between mounts must be well known and relatively minor. My guess is that Canon is lying.
The big question about that particular lens, which is typical for Sigma…is it sharp at its longest focal length? Does it suffer from horrendous flare and focal breathing and what’s it like with tele converters?
If none of these are “amazing” or “take your breath away” but merely “ok”, “adequate” or 90%, then a used EF 600 lis II might be a better option.
 
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Sounds like a typical Canon interview. Nice to see the plan is to continue at 6-8 lenses per year.

FSI for the 6DIII wasn’t a surprise, the R5’s FSI sensor delivered IQ as good as any other FF sensor on the market. BSI is a marketing gimmick for current full frame pixel sizes (though you can’t get the speed benefit of a stacked sensor without BSI).

My guess is that Canon is lying.
Why? I honestly don’t get comments like that. Except from trolls, or people with zero business acumen. Why lie when you can just leave it at ‘no comment’ (which was the main answer anyway). It could easily be true that the lack of 3rd party FF autofocus lenses is the choice of the 3rd parties, technically…Canon sets the terms, and if they don’t want such lenses made they just need to set terms to make it undesirable. 3rd parties won’t make the lenses if Canon’s licensing fee makes them unprofitable. It’s not personal, it’s business.
 
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An RF 20-70/4L IS, as light as possible, would be nice.
Though there are already so many lenses covering the standard zoom range so I don’t have to much hope.
Would be a fine lens reaching the outer limits of ultra wide lenses and is 32 ... 112 equiv on APS-C which is a very usable range for my use cases.
But too many options keep me away from taking photos, so less options might be good for me ;-)
 
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Why? I honestly don’t get comments like that. Except from trolls, or people with zero business acumen. Why lie when you can just leave it at ‘no comment’ (which was the main answer anyway). It could easily be true that the lack of 3rd party FF autofocus lenses is the choice of the 3rd parties, technically…Canon sets the terms, and if they don’t want such lenses made they just need to set terms to make it undesirable. 3rd parties won’t make the lenses if Canon’s licensing fee makes them unprofitable. It’s not personal, it’s business.
Please note that all RF and RF-S cameras use the same RF mount, only the image circle of an RF-S (APS-C) lens is smaller than FF. Consequently, 3rd party lens manufacturers face no additional 'technical' difficulty for FF autofocus compared to RF-S (APS-C) autofocus. Actually, there are already several 3rd party autofocus RF-S lenses available, e.g. Sigma 15mm f/1.4 DC, but no FF autofocus.
To me it is clear that Canon either deliberately blocks FF autofocus lenses for RF, or asks high licensing fees, which effectively block any 3rd party, while there is no 'technical' reason.
 
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Please note that all RF and RF-S cameras use the same RF mount, only the image circle of an RF-S (APS-C) lens is smaller than FF. Consequently, 3rd party lens manufacturers face no additional 'technical' difficulty for FF autofocus compared to RF-S (APS-C) autofocus. Actually, there are already several 3rd party autofocus RF-S lenses available, e.g. Sigma 15mm f/1.4 DC, but no FF autofocus.
To me it is clear that Canon either deliberately blocks FF autofocus lenses for RF, or asks high licensing fees, which effectively block any 3rd party, while there is no 'technical' reason.
I know. I think you misunderstood my point, which was ‘technically’ in the sense of a technicality. I wrote in response to a claim that Canon was lying. If Canon sets license terms that effectively make it unprofitable for a 3rd party to make a certain lens, then when the 3rd party doesn’t make that lens, Canon can truthfully say it’s the 3rd party’s choice to not make the lens…and be technically correct.
 
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I know. I think you misunderstood my point, which was ‘technically’ in the sense of a technicality. I wrote in response to a claim that Canon was lying. If Canon sets license terms that effectively make it unprofitable for a 3rd party to make a certain lens, then when the 3rd party doesn’t make that lens, Canon can truthfully say it’s the 3rd party’s choice to not make the lens…and be technically correct.
A distinction without a difference
 
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Sigma and co. are focusing on APS-C because there is a huge gap in the market.
I somewhat agree. However, judging from Sigma's lens mount conversion service, the additional effort and cost to port their existing FF lenses to Canon RF is pretty trivial. As I recall, they quoted me about $250 per lens to convert two lenses from EF-M to RF and that included removing old parts and putting in new replacement parts. How much more could it cost to make all their existing FF lens in RF mount also? I don't know exactly why Sigma doesn't do it but Canon saying/implying that it's all Sigma's and Tamron's fault just seems like manipulative BS. Craig may be right that Sigma doesn't have the factory capacity now but I think Sigma would somehow make it work even if it means adding onto their factory and hiring more people.
 
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I’d very happily welcome a budget RF 28mm f/1.4 STM, it would be a perfect sister to the 45mm f/1.2.

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Personally, for the purposes for which fast primes are made, I am okay with the RF 45mm's performance. It delivers decent sharpness where it’s crucial, as well as an amount of bokeh that is otherwise hard to obtain. For me, though, 45mm is not the focal length I prefer. I would be happy to see something three times longer; just as the 45mm is a 'reimagined' EF 50mm f/1.2L, an RF 135mm f/2 STM would be sweet as a modernization of the EF 135mm f/2L. With more plastic in the construction, modern coatings, and an STM motor, a price point around €1,000 would be perfect.
 
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The big question about that particular lens, which is typical for Sigma…is it sharp at its longest focal length? Does it suffer from horrendous flare and focal breathing and what’s it like with tele converters?
If none of these are “amazing” or “take your breath away” but merely “ok”, “adequate” or 90%, then a used EF 600 lis II might be a better option.
I know you like your old-ish lenses, but you should inform yourself about Sigma lenses... they've come a long way since a decade ago.
In any case, even if the lens was "horrendous" (which it isn't)... why would this be a problem? People can simply not buy it. It's called free market. Not that Canon shooters have the trouble of taking this horrendous risk...
 
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Sounds like a typical Canon interview. Nice to see the plan is to continue at 6-8 lenses per year.
Agreed
FSI for the 6DIII wasn’t a surprise, the R5’s FSI sensor delivered IQ as good as any other FF sensor on the market. BSI is a marketing gimmick for current full frame pixel sizes (though you can’t get the speed benefit of a stacked sensor without BSI).
Agreed
Why? I honestly don’t get comments like that. Except from trolls, or people with zero business acumen. Why lie when you can just leave it at ‘no comment’ (which was the main answer anyway). It could easily be true that the lack of 3rd party FF autofocus lenses is the choice of the 3rd parties, technically…Canon sets the terms, and if they don’t want such lenses made they just need to set terms to make it undesirable. 3rd parties won’t make the lenses if Canon’s licensing fee makes them unprofitable. It’s not personal, it’s business.
Canon haven't been 100% honest in the past though - same as Sony with the A mount, they kept making noises about the M mount not being dead well after the decision had been taken to kill it. They will say whatever they think we want to hear and honesty and candor are not a priority. Like any other corporation.

And I don't believe for a second that Sigma would not sell their FF lenses to RF customers if they could. If it was a case of costs they could simply pass them to the customers. And if it was a question of capacity they could simply produce less crop lenses and favor the more profitable FF ones
 
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