And that's the end of your hardware innovations. Be happy with what you have for the next 5 -10 years. Like having a high performance PC without a fan. Try to find one. The traditional 5D user base has evaporated. Cameras are niche devices already as it is. Not even smartphones are manufactured without a video option.
Confirmed, a Canon EOS R5c is going to be announced this year [CR3]
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The R5 was delayed almost half a year, these products aren't developed in a couple of months. They have a 2-3 year internal roadmap at least for camera bodies.
The R5 was probably in final testing when the pandemic hit.
I agree about 2-3 year roadmaps—some can be up to 5 years (like the Panasonic S1 series). But there are times when variants based on existing products can be put into production on a short timeline.
What I said wasn't wrong. Yes a fan with a heatsink would be ideal, but it would also bring other compromises. To maintain the R5 form factor as it was shipped, a copper plate to dissipate heat would be worked a lot better than what it shipped with. It's not a dedicated cinema camera so, the fact it does not have a fan is not surprising but what was released is not the best effort to keep the camera cool by any means, and no amount of firmware is going to make up for physical heat buildup.
... and the camera would have cost more money for minimal thermal improvements. Go and check the price volatility of copper.
What’s funny is that people would be all about this if it was the other way around. The R5c coming out first, then canon making the same thing, but weather sealed.
I think the R5 is a beast of a camera, but the R5c will be a purchase for a little ease of mind for hot days and longer recordings. I still haven’t had my R5 overheat anywhere near the complaints people have. I do weddings and fitness to give an idea of my usage.
I think the R5 is a beast of a camera, but the R5c will be a purchase for a little ease of mind for hot days and longer recordings. I still haven’t had my R5 overheat anywhere near the complaints people have. I do weddings and fitness to give an idea of my usage.
C70 is actually pretty amazing for run and gun. They just need to adjust autofocus performance. It’s good, but not R5 good.
Well, there's a LOT of us out there, that like to do both.
And we often don't have money for multiple bodies....so one that does it all, is the ultimate goal.
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cayenne
I don't think that's a reasonable comparison. What proportion of high-end PCs are used in the rain? High humidity environments? Blowing sand? I don't have the answer, but I can promise you this: if high-end PCs had to be commonly used in direct contact with water, they'd be weatherproofed in one manner or another to prevent damage. How many wedding photographers/journalists/sports photographers/landscape or wildlife photographers tell their clients they can't do a job if it's raining? Not shooting in the rain isn't always an option depending on your business.
For me, weather sealing is more important than further innovation for the next 5-10 years, so if no innovation is the cost, I can make peace with that. With that said, weather sealing isn't new on cameras and we've had plenty of innovation over the last 5-10 years. I kind of doubt you can't have one without losing other.
I doubt any of us have the actual data to prove that the traditional 5D user is gone and obviously Canon doesn't think that if they made a camera to service the market. In fact, most camera manufacturers seem to be diving into the traditional 5D market of full frame, high quality, stills-first cameras with weather sealing. I don't discount that a lot of people rely on video from stills cameras; that's certainly true considering that several of the manufacturers with 5D-style weather-sealed bodies also make actively cooled bodies with a video focus. That's a good thing - it lets the people who need that video performance sacrifice their weather sealing, and people who need weather sealing sacrifice their video performance. There is no one size fits all, and that's ok.
R5 and R5c would be just like S1 and S1H.
Panny announced a firmware update to give S1 15 minutes of 6K which is less than R5 having 20 minutes of 8K RAW.
Canon, make it useful by having ND filters and other cinema tools rather than gimping it like the FX3.
Sigma FP-l has a removable EVF as well.
It is not like that is a foreign concept for Canon.
Perhaps, but given a choice with R5 costing less and in a smaller package, I would still buy the R5.
I can see how Canon and Sony compete against each other. C70 against FX6 and now R5C against FX3. As a more video shooter I'm happy that I cancelled back then R5 to buy a C70 and now I have the time to be ready for R5C! Great times..!!
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