D800 is finally here

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Mark D5 TEAM II said:
I kinda sympathized with the good Nikon folks when they were stuck at 12MP on what, 9 or 10 models IIRC. BTW, 7D pixel density == ~46MP on FF, so Canon can one-up this D800 if they want to. :P

yeah at 7D IQ i would not be impressed i would much rather 1D4 pixel density at FF = 27MP this would most likely be able to keep extremely high clean iso too

46MP would be fine if they get the IQ right but i cant see it happening
 
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I'm a little surprised that there is as much dissent in the Nikon camp. I guess they can always dial down the resolution on the camera, but overall it looks really solid. If I didn't already have so much glass that wasn't available in Nikon form, I'd seriously consider this camera.
 
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CrimsonBlue said:
I'm a little surprised that there is as much dissent in the Nikon camp. I guess they can always dial down the resolution on the camera, but overall it looks really solid. If I didn't already have so much glass that wasn't available in Nikon form, I'd seriously consider this camera.

How many people out there really need more than ~20 megapixels of resolution? I mean, unless you're making wall-sized prints, what's the use, especially given the file and pixel size trade-offs involved? We'll see what the reviewers think of the image quality when the street models hit, but I can't see much utility for most people in all these megapixels.
 
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V8Beast said:
BDD said:
Now it's Canon's turn to make an announcement. Please give us a low light shooting (100-12,800 or 100-51,200 native ISO), moderate FPS (5-6 FPS), with the 1D-X's 61-pt AF system (or something "similar"...maybe with fewer pts). For the quoted asking price of $2700 USD. Make us happy!! (or some of us)

Honestly, I wouldn't mind a camera like that, either, but if the 5D3 specs end up being similar to your wish list, Canon better have another high megapixel body up its sleeve that can compete with the D800. I see the D800 as a nice upgrade over my 1Ds3, as it has similar AF and FPS but with way more megapixels. A pop-up flash to control off-camera strobes is a nice perk as well.

Now that Nikon has showed its hand, the 5D3 will have to be a substantial upgrade in the ISO department or the megapixel department compared to the 5D2. Merely upgrading to a 9-cross-type AF system while maintaining similar resolution, as some people have suggested, just isn't going to cut it.

I believe CR mentioned something about "Cinema EOS" DSLRs. Maybe those will have a lot of MP. I really hope Canon sticks to the latest rumored specs mentioned here for the upcoming 5D3. I was actually considering the D800 but now that the D800 has been announced and we know the confirmed specs...I now know it's not for me. So I hope Canon delivers what I want in the 5D3 (or "5D-X"). Giving us a low-light moderate FPS shooter with maybe the 1D-X 61-pt AF system for sports and photojournalism.

Now we wait for the 5D3 announcement...better be this month...
 
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The specs for the D800 is exactly what I'd like (I like to shoot landscapes) but I guess as a Canon user I'm at least a generation away from getting that high resolution. I don't plan to switch brands though ;-).
 
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The sample images are crazy, I'm just wondering how the average Joe like me will convince his wife that the D800 is better if all she does is cry out loud that she can see every little pimple or freckle on her face. My wife just said that she only accepts portraits of her in summer with make-up if I point the 85L with 5dmkii on her...... ;D
 
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hoousi said:
The sample images are crazy, I'm just wondering how the average Joe like me will convince his wife that the D800 is better if all she does is cry out loud that she can see every little pimple or freckle on her face. My wife just said that she only accepts portraits of her in summer with make-up if I point the 85L with 5dmkii on her...... ;D

Get a 135 soft focus :D :D :D
 
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I've been reading all these comments about how Canon shouldn't introduce features on a 5D/7D replacement that would cut into the sales of the 1DX (ie you can't have both resolution and IQ AND quality AF), but from what I'm seeing here, Nikon don't seem that bothered by such issues.
If I'm reading this right, the D800 has 36mp against the D4s 16.2 and they both have the 51 point AF system.
I can see that the D4 has other improvements (such as the maximum 11 fps as opposed to the D800s 5 fps), but it looks like they're not holding back much on the features on this one.
Does Canon always have to split its cameras to appeal to markets such as one for the sports/wildlife section and the other for studios/weddings/landscapes?
To me, a good all rounder (which is what I think the D800 is) would appeal to everyone (more sales).
Just some thoughts.
 
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The sample video looks great. I wonder if moire for video will be a problem with the way theyre sampling from the sensor? Any one know if its a potential problem? Also i read something on dpreview.

"If you want to know the prime reason for such a high resolution sensor, here it is: Videographers can shoot full HD with DX lenses as well as FX. This gives the D800 a versatility in video that nothing else can match"

Is that true?
 
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I've had a look at the sample photos Nikon put up on their website - per pixel sharpness isn't at all impressive but the amount of detail you get to work with is staggering, even on the "regular" D800. I'd probably go for the D800E, myself, even though I can imagine I'd run into moire a good bit it should be reasonably simple to just downsample and wipe it out.

Their sole ISO 640 image (from the D800) has a fair amount of noise visible in the shadow area, don't know if ETTR would help that (although the "original data size" suggests to me that it could've been bumped up in exposure a good amount) but it's a pleasing type of noise distribution, and I didn't see any noise in the subject areas. Good detail on small patterns too.

Not a bad release so far, looks like! Hope the 5D3 can catch up, but we keep hearing it'll be a "low mp" release.
 
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Edwin Herdman said:
per pixel sharpness isn't at all impressive

I think we need RAW files to evaluate that, jpeg compression (even if mild) does soften the files some. But one will surely notice the somewhat reduced sharpness in corners of the lenses with this pixel density. Still this is exactly the type sensor I'd like to see in a Canon camera too...
 
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