Daytime Event Shooting

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Does anybody here ever have to shoot events during the day, such as between 10am and 3pm? I did yesterday and due to the sun, I missed so many potentially great shots, taken otherwise in proper lighting (morning or evening). Does this frustrate anyone? Sorry I'm just venting :)

Get a good flash for filling in shadows, And post-process the RAW's to your tastes.

If there is any posed photos during the event, get a scrim and use it to soften the light above there head. It will get a basic Rembrandt light and looks great. Much simpler than multiple flash setups.

Cant get much simpler than 1 off camera, 1 on shoe plus of course the sun

I suppose. A Large 60" Scrim can do wonders to soften patched light or harsh direct over head light into stunning light that gives large catchlights in the eyes. Its like carrying a 60" soft box with you. ;D

Hope it isn't windy

Hope you carry sandbags.

No need when using flash :D
 
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briansquibb said:
RLPhoto said:
briansquibb said:
RLPhoto said:
briansquibb said:
RLPhoto said:
bdunbar79 said:
Does anybody here ever have to shoot events during the day, such as between 10am and 3pm? I did yesterday and due to the sun, I missed so many potentially great shots, taken otherwise in proper lighting (morning or evening). Does this frustrate anyone? Sorry I'm just venting :)

Get a good flash for filling in shadows, And post-process the RAW's to your tastes.

If there is any posed photos during the event, get a scrim and use it to soften the light above there head. It will get a basic Rembrandt light and looks great. Much simpler than multiple flash setups.

Cant get much simpler than 1 off camera, 1 on shoe plus of course the sun

I suppose. A Large 60" Scrim can do wonders to soften patched light or harsh direct over head light into stunning light that gives large catchlights in the eyes. Its like carrying a 60" soft box with you. ;D

Hope it isn't windy

Hope you carry sandbags.

No need when using flash :D

Windy day + Flash on Stand = Bad Day for your Flash.
 
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RLPhoto said:
briansquibb said:
RLPhoto said:
briansquibb said:
RLPhoto said:
briansquibb said:
RLPhoto said:
bdunbar79 said:
Does anybody here ever have to shoot events during the day, such as between 10am and 3pm? I did yesterday and due to the sun, I missed so many potentially great shots, taken otherwise in proper lighting (morning or evening). Does this frustrate anyone? Sorry I'm just venting :)

Get a good flash for filling in shadows, And post-process the RAW's to your tastes.

If there is any posed photos during the event, get a scrim and use it to soften the light above there head. It will get a basic Rembrandt light and looks great. Much simpler than multiple flash setups.

Cant get much simpler than 1 off camera, 1 on shoe plus of course the sun

I suppose. A Large 60" Scrim can do wonders to soften patched light or harsh direct over head light into stunning light that gives large catchlights in the eyes. Its like carrying a 60" soft box with you. ;D

Hope it isn't windy

Hope you carry sandbags.

No need when using flash :D

Windy day + Flash on Stand = Bad Day for your Flash.

Not in my experience - but a 60inch scrim will be off like a kite
 
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briansquibb said:
RLPhoto said:
briansquibb said:
RLPhoto said:
briansquibb said:
RLPhoto said:
briansquibb said:
RLPhoto said:
bdunbar79 said:
Does anybody here ever have to shoot events during the day, such as between 10am and 3pm? I did yesterday and due to the sun, I missed so many potentially great shots, taken otherwise in proper lighting (morning or evening). Does this frustrate anyone? Sorry I'm just venting :)

Get a good flash for filling in shadows, And post-process the RAW's to your tastes.

If there is any posed photos during the event, get a scrim and use it to soften the light above there head. It will get a basic Rembrandt light and looks great. Much simpler than multiple flash setups.

Cant get much simpler than 1 off camera, 1 on shoe plus of course the sun

I suppose. A Large 60" Scrim can do wonders to soften patched light or harsh direct over head light into stunning light that gives large catchlights in the eyes. Its like carrying a 60" soft box with you. ;D

Hope it isn't windy

Hope you carry sandbags.

No need when using flash :D

Windy day + Flash on Stand = Bad Day for your Flash.

Not in my experience - but a 60inch scrim will be off like a kite

As long as you dont plan to do anything to soften your flash.
 
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RLPhoto said:
briansquibb said:
RLPhoto said:
briansquibb said:
RLPhoto said:
briansquibb said:
RLPhoto said:
briansquibb said:
RLPhoto said:
bdunbar79 said:
Does anybody here ever have to shoot events during the day, such as between 10am and 3pm? I did yesterday and due to the sun, I missed so many potentially great shots, taken otherwise in proper lighting (morning or evening). Does this frustrate anyone? Sorry I'm just venting :)

Get a good flash for filling in shadows, And post-process the RAW's to your tastes.

If there is any posed photos during the event, get a scrim and use it to soften the light above there head. It will get a basic Rembrandt light and looks great. Much simpler than multiple flash setups.

Cant get much simpler than 1 off camera, 1 on shoe plus of course the sun

I suppose. A Large 60" Scrim can do wonders to soften patched light or harsh direct over head light into stunning light that gives large catchlights in the eyes. Its like carrying a 60" soft box with you. ;D

Hope it isn't windy

Hope you carry sandbags.

No need when using flash :D

Windy day + Flash on Stand = Bad Day for your Flash.

Not in my experience - but a 60inch scrim will be off like a kite

As long as you dont plan to do anything to soften your flash.

I guess that is where experience kicks in :D

How you think people shoot flash outdoors in all weathers?
 
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briansquibb said:
RLPhoto said:
briansquibb said:
RLPhoto said:
briansquibb said:
RLPhoto said:
briansquibb said:
RLPhoto said:
briansquibb said:
RLPhoto said:
bdunbar79 said:
Does anybody here ever have to shoot events during the day, such as between 10am and 3pm? I did yesterday and due to the sun, I missed so many potentially great shots, taken otherwise in proper lighting (morning or evening). Does this frustrate anyone? Sorry I'm just venting :)

Get a good flash for filling in shadows, And post-process the RAW's to your tastes.

If there is any posed photos during the event, get a scrim and use it to soften the light above there head. It will get a basic Rembrandt light and looks great. Much simpler than multiple flash setups.

Cant get much simpler than 1 off camera, 1 on shoe plus of course the sun

I suppose. A Large 60" Scrim can do wonders to soften patched light or harsh direct over head light into stunning light that gives large catchlights in the eyes. Its like carrying a 60" soft box with you. ;D

Hope it isn't windy

Hope you carry sandbags.

No need when using flash :D

Windy day + Flash on Stand = Bad Day for your Flash.

Not in my experience - but a 60inch scrim will be off like a kite

As long as you dont plan to do anything to soften your flash.

I guess that is where experience kicks in :D

How you think people shoot flash outdoors in all weathers?

From Experience, Its usually with a HEAVY SANDBAG Weighting down a Soft box or umbrella to modify the light from the flash to get nice, soft light.

Unless of course, you like Direct Flash... If that's your thing.
 
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RLPhoto said:
From Experience, Its usually with a HEAVY SANDBAG Weighting down a Soft box or umbrella to modify the light from the flash to get nice, soft light.

Unless of course, you like Direct Flash... If that's your thing.

There are several other options - big softbox is probably less useful. Moving a flash stand and sandbags is entertaining on your own and will lead to missed shots
 
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briansquibb said:
RLPhoto said:
From Experience, Its usually with a HEAVY SANDBAG Weighting down a Soft box or umbrella to modify the light from the flash to get nice, soft light.

Unless of course, you like Direct Flash... If that's your thing.

There are several other options - big softbox is probably less useful. Moving a flash stand and sandbags is entertaining on your own and will lead to missed shots

Hmmm... Weren't we discussing posed photos? ???

A scrim is 30$, lightweight and easy implement. Give's good light and fixes the issue of 12 o'clock light.

2 Flashes, plus a lightstand and a modifier is much more cumbersome and expensive. Not to mention if its a windy day, you'll need to bust out those sandbags. Don't even mention Canons Optical Flash system working on a super bright day, so even more money on triggers. <---- I'd bet this would miss more photos.
 
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OP said event which I am guessing is not a posed shoot else missed shots would not be an issue.

To move the gear around that you are talking about would require assistants. If it was a posed shoot then you would probably not use speedlights, more like Rangers or the like
 
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briansquibb said:
OP said event which I am guessing is not a posed shoot else missed shots would not be an issue.

To move the gear around that you are talking about would require assistants. If it was a posed shoot then you would probably not use speedlights, more like Rangers or the like

Hmmm... I also remember posting to the OP, That IF there was ANY posed shots, which is not un-common for event's at all, a scrim could be very useful, Lightweight, fast, and effective way to handle 12 o'clock light quickly.

Also, I'm not the one who recommended off-camera flash work.

I simply posted something that has worked very well for me.
 
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I got a rayflash ring flash a little while ago and have been using it for these sorts of things it's actually pretty good on the 580 on camera for direct fill flashing, highly mobile and easy to take off in a hurry to go to bounce flash insteadquite portable and i made up a little braket that can attach to my L bracket and use radio triggers if i want to mix it with off camera flash and the odins since the hotshoe takes the odin transmitter
 
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