EOS-1D X Replacement in 2016 [CR1]

RGF said:
privatebydesign said:
RGF said:
Glad Canon waits until something big can be introduce and then makes sure it is solid. I think that they learned a lesson from the problems (real or imaginary) with AF on the 1D M3.

The 1D MkIII was a massive upgrade over the 1D MkIIn in many areas, so I don't see how your reference to it would impact the thinking on a 1DX MkII release.

I believe, if my aged memory serves me correctly, that the 1D M3 had AF problems. canon had egg on their face after that body and since then I have noticed that they have been more cautious about introducing new products.

Yes, but you are conflating quality control issues (1D MkIII) with lack of technological advancement issues (1DX MkII) the two are not related and so I didn't understand why you linked them..
 
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Canon will have to do a lot more than increase the megapixels before I will be interested in a new camera. The 1D-X is simply wonderful. I'm considering buying a second camera body if the price continues to fall. I can safely say I am very happy with the megapixels the 1D-X has and wonder why I wound need more.
 
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privatebydesign said:
RGF said:
privatebydesign said:
RGF said:
Glad Canon waits until something big can be introduce and then makes sure it is solid. I think that they learned a lesson from the problems (real or imaginary) with AF on the 1D M3.

The 1D MkIII was a massive upgrade over the 1D MkIIn in many areas, so I don't see how your reference to it would impact the thinking on a 1DX MkII release.

I believe, if my aged memory serves me correctly, that the 1D M3 had AF problems. canon had egg on their face after that body and since then I have noticed that they have been more cautious about introducing new products.

Yes, but you are conflating quality control issues (1D MkIII) with lack of technological advancement issues (1DX MkII) the two are not related and so I didn't understand why you linked them..

My point is that Canon is being more cautious bringing products to market after the problems with the 1D M3 and that is part of the reason we are seeing longer development times.
 
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Jeffrey said:
Canon will have to do a lot more than increase the megapixels before I will be interested in a new camera. The 1D-X is simply wonderful. I'm considering buying a second camera body if the price continues to fall. I can safely say I am very happy with the megapixels the 1D-X has and wonder why I wound need more.

As long as they keep the ISO performance on par or improve, more MP = More Crop Ability. Very useful for when shooting a lot of action with a 70-200 and you still want tighten up the framing in post.
 
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As an enthusiast who makes no money on photography, I couldn't be more happy with the 1Dx.

Bring on the mkII, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is the last DSLR* I purchase.

*DSLR, not camera ;)
 
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mackguyver said:
I'm very happy with my 1D X - I'd rather Canon deliver something really solid in a year then rush something sooner :)

Agreed. It is one purchase I have zero regrets over buying. Truly remarkable.

The 1D X II is going to have to be something even more amazing, especially considering how much the 1D X are going for new these days. Adding 4K video, and USB 3.0 just won't be enough, they are going to have to amaze us.
 
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BL said:
As an enthusiast who makes no money on photography, I couldn't be more happy with the 1Dx.

Bring on the mkII, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is the last DSLR* I purchase.

*DSLR, not camera ;)

With that camera you should all over sports teams and dance schools. You'll make money enough to feed your passion.
 
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This camera needs to be something very special or they might as well just not come out with a new one. 1DX is already a near perfect camera.....some sort of technological breakthrough with more fps and better autofocus is what I want.
 
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Greatland said:
This camera needs to be something very special or they might as well just not come out with a new one. 1DX is already a near perfect camera.....some sort of technological breakthrough with more fps and better autofocus is what I want.

It's a 1 series Canon. They will be. If the new body has DPAF, 24MP with even cleaner High ISOs than now, Plus an all new AF system, and internal 4k with a clean 10 bit HDMI out and the full time active focus system for video like the 7D2.... it will be WAY special. And as I suspect it will be the merger of the DX and DC, Canon has enormous opportunity here to create the ultimate single body for the action shooter and cinematographer in a single item. .
 
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privatebydesign said:
RGF said:
privatebydesign said:
RGF said:
Glad Canon waits until something big can be introduce and then makes sure it is solid. I think that they learned a lesson from the problems (real or imaginary) with AF on the 1D M3.

The 1D MkIII was a massive upgrade over the 1D MkIIn in many areas, so I don't see how your reference to it would impact the thinking on a 1DX MkII release.

I believe, if my aged memory serves me correctly, that the 1D M3 had AF problems. canon had egg on their face after that body and since then I have noticed that they have been more cautious about introducing new products.

Yes, but you are conflating quality control issues (1D MkIII) with lack of technological advancement issues (1DX MkII) the two are not related and so I didn't understand why you linked them..

QC and technological advancement are totally related. Technological advancement can't occur without QC. No successful product can make it to market without QC. If you skimp on QC, you can get technological advancements to market faster. I don't understand why you don't think they are linked.
 
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KitsVancouver said:
privatebydesign said:
RGF said:
privatebydesign said:
RGF said:
Glad Canon waits until something big can be introduce and then makes sure it is solid. I think that they learned a lesson from the problems (real or imaginary) with AF on the 1D M3.

The 1D MkIII was a massive upgrade over the 1D MkIIn in many areas, so I don't see how your reference to it would impact the thinking on a 1DX MkII release.

I believe, if my aged memory serves me correctly, that the 1D M3 had AF problems. canon had egg on their face after that body and since then I have noticed that they have been more cautious about introducing new products.

Yes, but you are conflating quality control issues (1D MkIII) with lack of technological advancement issues (1DX MkII) the two are not related and so I didn't understand why you linked them..

QC and technological advancement are totally related.* Technological advancement can't occur without QC.** No successful product can make it to market without QC.*** If you skimp on QC, you can get technological advancements to market faster.**** I don't understand why you don't think they are linked.*****

*No they are not, you can make a very high quality product with no technological advancement at all. Try Leica.

**Of course they can, buy a Nikon.

***Tell that to Toyota, Honda, Bridgestone, GMC, or even poor Nikon again............

****Maybe, but skimping on QC does not make you more innovative such that you come up with the technological advancements.

*****You can have poor QC and no innovation, you can have high QC and no innovation, you can have good innovation and poor QC, you can have good innovation and good QC. So if you can have any combination how can they be related?
 
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Well i guess i know whats on my xmas list at the end of this year! I traded in my 7D for a preowned 1DIV which i absolutely love! However, shooting event photography i seriously need a full frame body! I was going to keep my 1D & buy a used 5D2 or 3 but perhaps now i'll just keep what i have & possibly eventually trade in my IV for a preowned X....this will give me the versatility of still shooting sports which is my passion along w but at the same time have a full frame sensor for even higher ISO capabilities!!! I CANT STTAND WAITING LOL!!!!!!
 
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BL said:
As an enthusiast who makes no money on photography, I couldn't be more happy with the 1Dx.

Same here.


expatinasia said:
The 1D X II is going to have to be something even more amazing, especially considering how much the 1D X are going for new these days. Adding 4K video, and USB 3.0 just won't be enough, they are going to have to amaze us.

It would be nice if the 1D X II is 'amazing' and if it is, I'll buy one. But it doesn't have to be amazing...my 1D X will still work after it comes out. ;)
 
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neuroanatomist said:
It would be nice if the 1D X II is 'amazing' and if it is, I'll buy one. But it doesn't have to be amazing...my 1D X will still work after it comes out. ;)

Which is more than one can say for some other electronic devices, like Apple's iPhone, in which iOS "upgrades" with newer models essentially make older phones unusably slow.

At least Canon is not guilty of "planned obsolescence" design, which is why so many cameras from the 1970s are still out there & working. Try pushing the iPhone past 3 or 4 years of software 'upgrades' with no option for reversion...
 
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