EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
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steliosk said:
Try to keep up, Megapixels aren't everything, in fact I hope Canon sticks to 18mp for APS-C. After seeing the "evolution" to image quality Sony and Toshiba did with 24mp APS-C sensors image if Canon could apply those advancements to an 18mp one.
18mp is a nice balance for resolution and diffraction limits (even though at this high resolution diffraction will be barely noticeable), but it's nice to know that every Canon lens isn't diffraction limited wide open (f/5.6 being the slowest stop without diffraction limitations) and I think we can start dreaming of better signal to noise ratios that rival 5D markII with a usable ISO 3200, better Dynamic Range and Cleaner video for Canon APS-C ;D
I just hope Canon doesn't skimp on features like All-I and IPB video codecs, auto ISO limiters or AFMA.
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dadgummit said:
That is the same thing everybody says, and then toss out their cameras whenever a higher MP body comes out. lets stop pretending and accept the fact 18MP is ok when that is the only choice
that would be crazy. Having a choice of ANYTHIG but 18 
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The specs from Monday said that the two new cameras both had hybrid CMOS II sensors (as opposed to I) with a wider focus area than on the 650d. This has been clear since Monday that it would be a "new" sensor. I assume that this is designed to address the criticism of the 650d and EOS M sensor that the on-chip phase detection sensors are in a narrow, small area in the middle of the sensor. I assume that the new sensor will have phase detection sensors in a wider area which will help with focusing on objects that move out of the center of the frame. In addition, more phase detection spots may help with the speed of the AF which is obviously a huge problem.
What is very unclear is if the rest of the sensor will have any improvements. I have my doubts because it didn't with the 650d.
What is very unclear is if the rest of the sensor will have any improvements. I have my doubts because it didn't with the 650d.
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This is REALLY good stuff! A new 18MP sensor and the DIGIC 6! New DIGIC means lots of great stuff coming!
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It seems that everybody has forgotten about how Nikon the route Nikon went with the D3 and D3S.
Both are 12.1 megapixel sensors, but the D3S's sensor was completely new and significantly better. It was the low-light king until the current generation came out. The native ISO range of the D3S was higher than the D3.
If the rumored specs are true, then the native ISO range for the T5i and 70D are much higher than before (100-25,600). Hopefully this means they greatly improved the low light capabilities.
Everybody is blinded by the megapixel war that's been going on. If Canon can do what Nikon did to the D3S, then I welcome these new cameras with open arms. I for one think that 18mp is more than enough.
Both are 12.1 megapixel sensors, but the D3S's sensor was completely new and significantly better. It was the low-light king until the current generation came out. The native ISO range of the D3S was higher than the D3.
If the rumored specs are true, then the native ISO range for the T5i and 70D are much higher than before (100-25,600). Hopefully this means they greatly improved the low light capabilities.
Everybody is blinded by the megapixel war that's been going on. If Canon can do what Nikon did to the D3S, then I welcome these new cameras with open arms. I for one think that 18mp is more than enough.
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it´s canon 2009 with a new badge
well, a last we get a new sensor. or - in fact - a new badge with the great 2009 technology. and a little tweak. great.
we all like retro.
btw: did you know, intel just announced their new pentium II, 800 mhz prozessor???
well, a last we get a new sensor. or - in fact - a new badge with the great 2009 technology. and a little tweak. great.
we all like retro.
btw: did you know, intel just announced their new pentium II, 800 mhz prozessor???
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Re: it´s canon 2009 with a new badge
Well if that little tweak is anything like this>>>>>http://www.canonrumors.com/2013/03/canon-announces-the-development-of-new-high-sensitivity-sensor/
I don't give a crap about 18MP, lower or higher..... cause its going to blow everything else (mainly the entry level DSLRs) out of the water.
starship said:
Well if that little tweak is anything like this>>>>>http://www.canonrumors.com/2013/03/canon-announces-the-development-of-new-high-sensitivity-sensor/
I don't give a crap about 18MP, lower or higher..... cause its going to blow everything else (mainly the entry level DSLRs) out of the water.
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I honestly don't care about the MP count but the actual performance of the sensor. Most likely this is the same sensor as the past 3-4 years, which is just a kick to the groin for anyone with any faith left in Canon. There is a slim chance that this is indeed a completely new sensor and just uses the same MP count but really, how likely is it Canon not change the MP count at all? Not much, I think, especially from a marketing perspective. If on the off chance, that this is a new sensor, with improvements in DR and noise, I am in but at this point, I think it is just wishful thinking.
What do you guys think?
What do you guys think?
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Don Haines said:
It's so wide it takes a detailed scan of the brain of the person behind the camera and delivers a picture of what they're thinking.
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tcmatthews said:
Spot on. Canon would do themselves good to follow in Pentax's footsteps, offer an AA-less camera that's basically for stills only, and destroy the "video" option on the mode dial with an obviously outdated terrible interface and frustrating experience so that nobody ever uses it. "It's there, but don't bother" kind of thing. Better yet, cut live-view and video out entirely and make a stills-only high-res AA-less gem like in the good old days of low-ASA Velvia and sh¡t. No other consumer SLR could touch it.
But Canon just keeps hacking the video in all their new cameras. All the new features are for video. I remember seeing a poll in Shutterbug or Popular Photography last year saying less than a third of the people who make videos in life make them with their SLRs rather than their smartphones. Canon is crippling their stills shooters across the entire lineup of cameras to gain a little on soon-to-be-outdated 1080p super-downsampled video-res-optimized sensors. Keep the 1D-Cs and Vixias separate from the high-end EOS SLRs, mixing the two is killing us. Rather than upgrading, I'll just remove the AA filter from my T2i for $400 and end up with the same dynamic range, same resolution, but better sharpness and upscale-ability than any of the newer 18mp sensors.
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