EOS 7D Mark II: More High ISO Samples

Lee Jay said:
Jackson_Bill said:
It could well be that I'm doing NR wrong and if you have any suggestions, I would appreciate them.

Start with this:

Sharpening 40, Radius 1, Detail 25, Masking 40
Luminance NR 40, Detail 90, Contrast 0
Color NR 25, Detail 50, Smoothness 50

Messing around: For more detail, try increasing the first two detail sliders (say, 30 and 100) and sharpening (say, 50-60). For more NR, try increasing L-NR without decreasing detail first.

If I put luminance that high my shots look like they were taken with vaseline smeared over the lens.
 
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AccipiterQ said:
Lee Jay said:
Jackson_Bill said:
It could well be that I'm doing NR wrong and if you have any suggestions, I would appreciate them.

Start with this:

Sharpening 40, Radius 1, Detail 25, Masking 40
Luminance NR 40, Detail 90, Contrast 0
Color NR 25, Detail 50, Smoothness 50

Messing around: For more detail, try increasing the first two detail sliders (say, 30 and 100) and sharpening (say, 50-60). For more NR, try increasing L-NR without decreasing detail first.

If I put luminance that high my shots look like they were taken with vaseline smeared over the lens.

Not if the detail slider is high enough (90-100).
 
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AccipiterQ said:
The tepid response from the market is because we waited 5 years and they basically vomited up a 5% improvement over the 70D. The AF points are great, but for me for instance, the center point is what I use on 95% of my wildlife shots. The sensor doesn't look much better than a 70D, and as someone earlier in the thread noted, they found the full-sized versions of some of these shots and they're completely useless when at even 50%. In other words they keep releasing these compressed versions, like 2MP versions of a 20MP shot. I could shoot at 3200 on a T2i and get it to look decent at that ratio...

If you use center point only, then this camera is clearly not for you. Why then even bother complaining? Just get 6D, use center point only and be happy about ISO 3200 images with little noise :) Also the 6D is cheaper than 7D2, so you even save money :)
 
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pwp said:
Here's a new set of 7D2 samples posted at DP Review:
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/8990609305/canon-eos-7d-mark-ii-real-world-samples-beta

-pw

The ISO 12800 sample

http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/reviewsamples/photos/3034889/7dii_beta_iso12800_030a9228?inalbum=canon-eos-7d-mark-ii-beta-real-world-samples

is pretty impressive, my old 7D would have produced a much more noisier image. As a birder/wildlife shooter I look forward to see more high ISO samples with fine texture such as feathers, fur...
 
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Khalai said:
AccipiterQ said:
The tepid response from the market is because we waited 5 years and they basically vomited up a 5% improvement over the 70D. The AF points are great, but for me for instance, the center point is what I use on 95% of my wildlife shots. The sensor doesn't look much better than a 70D, and as someone earlier in the thread noted, they found the full-sized versions of some of these shots and they're completely useless when at even 50%. In other words they keep releasing these compressed versions, like 2MP versions of a 20MP shot. I could shoot at 3200 on a T2i and get it to look decent at that ratio...

If you use center point only, then this camera is clearly not for you. Why then even bother complaining? Just get 6D, use center point only and be happy about ISO 3200 images with little noise :) Also the 6D is cheaper than 7D2, so you even save money :)

Need a crop body, 6D doesn't fit. I was hoping the 7Dii would be a greater upgrade. The market response is rational here. There's probably a lot of people like me that are disappointed.

edit: Looked at some of the new samples, doesn't look awful, but again I'd like to see some RAWs.
 
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AccipiterQ said:
Khalai said:
AccipiterQ said:
The tepid response from the market is because we waited 5 years and they basically vomited up a 5% improvement over the 70D. The AF points are great, but for me for instance, the center point is what I use on 95% of my wildlife shots. The sensor doesn't look much better than a 70D, and as someone earlier in the thread noted, they found the full-sized versions of some of these shots and they're completely useless when at even 50%. In other words they keep releasing these compressed versions, like 2MP versions of a 20MP shot. I could shoot at 3200 on a T2i and get it to look decent at that ratio...

If you use center point only, then this camera is clearly not for you. Why then even bother complaining? Just get 6D, use center point only and be happy about ISO 3200 images with little noise :) Also the 6D is cheaper than 7D2, so you even save money :)

Need a crop body, 6D doesn't fit. I was hoping the 7Dii would be a greater upgrade. The market response is rational here. There's probably a lot of people like me that are disappointed.

edit: Looked at some of the new samples, doesn't look awful, but again I'd like to see some RAWs.

I'd dare to say, that 7D2 is rather greater upgrade, just not for your needs unfortunately. I, too, would like to see crop sensors performing better. But you can derive from the FF performance. Unless, there is a great step up in the FF front, here can't be in the crop department either. After all, you are using just 40% of the FF area in the end. I guess 7D2 was overhyped and people are rather disappointed being it "merely an evolutionary" upgrade to the 7D.
 
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AccipiterQ said:
The tepid response from the market

AccipiterQ said:
The market response is rational here. There's probably a lot of people like me that are disappointed.

WTF? What market response are you talking about? The first day the 7DII was released it hit #1 on the Amazon Best Sellers List. It's not there now, only because pre-orders always drop off after the first day or two.

The dang thing won't even be available until November, so the only market response out there are people gossiping on forums and judging by the comments on this forum, including several who have pre-ordered or know others who have pre-ordered, it looks more like a hit than a miss.

If you don't like the camera, that's fine, but don't just make up crap.
 
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