There are some, and its 4K refurb on Canon website, ended up getting a new one from Best Buy for their 0 interest financing
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Going for a R3 in mid 2024, or wait for the R1?
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I was a bit underwhelmed with the R5 II at the announcement, and the big price gap between the R5 II and the R3 (around 1,4k€) in my case made me pick the R3.
Saturday is my first wedding with it, and I am really excited. I will keep the R5 as a backup camera for now.
My personal reasons for the R3 were:
- Smaller form factor (compared to the R5 with battery grip).
- Smaller file sizes
- Better low light
- LPE-19 batteries
- The optical AF stick/control
- Less overheating (probably?)
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i wondering allway about the behavior of the photographers similar like here. If a new camera is offered, the old
The R is very compact and the lacks of the R don't beat me so much. I had done pictures of a wedding of a frend and did around 150 pictures. All pictures are generaly sharp - especialy the eyes was bright and sharp. No difference between teh R or R5. Both did a good job, even wedding is not my focus in my photograpy. Well, what i want so say is, that both bodies are very good and if you are know how pictures have to be done, you will be sucessfull with every body. I don' t use the automatic modes often. My regular mode is M and i do still images only.. For me, it's an advantage that both bodies are use an EVF and their focus is uite fast - even i mostly use EF-Lenses with the canon adapter.
I like the R5II and this would be a nice toy, but i can see where the advantage should be for a still-image photograper who own's an R5.
I hate the compare of R3 and R5x because this both systems has a different target groups. The R3 is a good body for Portraits and generaly poeple photography and sport events. If you have to handle longer zooms, tis is more practicaly. The resolution if the R3 is enought for that.
On the other hand, everything will affect the weight. The R5 is more compact and have 45Mpixel resolution. If you are anowner of an R5x and don't need this, you have done a wrong decision.
But there will be many R5 users who will now buy an R5II because their R5 is suddenly bad. I always smile when I read something like that.
My recomendation - save your R and look to a used R5 from one of that people who sell his. You will be satisfied....
Belive me, the R5 is a fantastic body, but i use both - the R and the R5. They are not directly comparable reasoned by the different sensor resolution.The use cases are different for that systems. If i want to use a compact body and i don't want to use macros, i decide me for the R. Other use cases, i prefere the R5.In planed photo activity - like catch macros and landscape, i use both systems. The R with a uww lense and the R5 wih a zoom 70-200 oder 50mm.
The R is very compact and the lacks of the R don't beat me so much. I had done pictures of a wedding of a frend and did around 150 pictures. All pictures are generaly sharp - especialy the eyes was bright and sharp. No difference between teh R or R5. Both did a good job, even wedding is not my focus in my photograpy. Well, what i want so say is, that both bodies are very good and if you are know how pictures have to be done, you will be sucessfull with every body. I don' t use the automatic modes often. My regular mode is M and i do still images only.. For me, it's an advantage that both bodies are use an EVF and their focus is uite fast - even i mostly use EF-Lenses with the canon adapter.
I like the R5II and this would be a nice toy, but i can see where the advantage should be for a still-image photograper who own's an R5.
I hate the compare of R3 and R5x because this both systems has a different target groups. The R3 is a good body for Portraits and generaly poeple photography and sport events. If you have to handle longer zooms, tis is more practicaly. The resolution if the R3 is enought for that.
On the other hand, everything will affect the weight. The R5 is more compact and have 45Mpixel resolution. If you are anowner of an R5x and don't need this, you have done a wrong decision.
But there will be many R5 users who will now buy an R5II because their R5 is suddenly bad. I always smile when I read something like that.
My recomendation - save your R and look to a used R5 from one of that people who sell his. You will be satisfied....
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Absolutely agree. I was strictly portraits. The R is perfect for me, for that. Now I've moved from the city to the country, on two acres. There are so many birds. So, in the future, a good used R5 would work well.
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I had done 400 Pictures today with the R5 and an EF70-200L f/2.8 III over around 4 hours and the body was not getting warmer as every other will do. That argument that now likely comes, is rubbished. I assume the guys who wrote this needs to find arguments for the new R5II.
I had used only a regular LP-E6N instead the LP-E6NH, that i had also loaded as a spare. But i did not replace the LP-E6N because after 400 nPictures, the Bat was at 50% load. A goot level to put them savely into my storage.
So it seems that things have to be talked up. Who needs it?
There's nothing wrong with just wanting to like something. If you can afford it, why not? There's no need for a reason to justify it. It's enough for me that I enjoy it. I don't need to badmouth my current cameras. My 80D, 5DS, 5DMK4, R and R5 are all very good. I use them depending on the task. I am not own a native RF lense. The L Class EF lenses performs very good on all systems. I use all my batteries for all bodies. That's an advantage of a homogene eco-system.
I wish you the best if you are do your bird pictures.
I had used only a regular LP-E6N instead the LP-E6NH, that i had also loaded as a spare. But i did not replace the LP-E6N because after 400 nPictures, the Bat was at 50% load. A goot level to put them savely into my storage.
So it seems that things have to be talked up. Who needs it?
There's nothing wrong with just wanting to like something. If you can afford it, why not? There's no need for a reason to justify it. It's enough for me that I enjoy it. I don't need to badmouth my current cameras. My 80D, 5DS, 5DMK4, R and R5 are all very good. I use them depending on the task. I am not own a native RF lense. The L Class EF lenses performs very good on all systems. I use all my batteries for all bodies. That's an advantage of a homogene eco-system.
I wish you the best if you are do your bird pictures.
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I can't tell you whether the over heating thing is real or overplayed, I dont even have any r series camera. But I can tell you that 400 pictures in four hours is really not very many. If I saw over heating from that with any camera then I would have a faulty camera.
The senario you have outlaid in your post proves and disproves nothing at all. 400 pictures in 4 hours is not remotely pushing your camera. Unless I have misunderstood what youre getting at.
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I've done 400+ in 10min in bright daylight in the summer shooting dragonflies in flight and NEVER had a heat warning.
But there are a lot of features which are a huge advantage for my needs. SoIlooking to update R5 -> R5mkII.
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Isn't the overheating during video? I've not heard any reports of overheating only shooting stills.
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Perhaps, and as I say I dont even own an R camera just yet, however your're stating you haven't heard any reports of over heating only shooting stills on a report about over heating shooting stills!
This entire thread is about a wedding photographer who is tired of the over heating issues. Specifically stating they focus on photography one would assume thats when the issues occur, for them.
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I understood them very well and I am surprised that they are applying standards that simply do not fit a consumer camera like the R5. Warm? What does that mean? If you film in 8K with it, it will get warm. It is not new and we will wait and see what the R5-II does better. Physics cannot be changed. A fan would be the worst case scenario.
I use the camera as the manufacturer actually intended. My requirements are not excessive. Especially not just because a new model has just been announced.
What does my practical example say? That we both seem to have a different view of what a camera is capable of and that our working methods must be fundamentally different.
The fact that you do not like my assessment may well be due to my clear criticism of your judgment. But be honest - do you really think that the camera gets uncomfortably warm when shooting still images? Mine does not and apparently the others do not either. There is a problem with everything.
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Sorry, but what are you guys ranting about, the OP had a problem with his camera, he has the camera, and he faced issues while using it.
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There was no offence meant, and I'm not the OP you initially responded to, as you seem to think I may be.
All I'm saying is that these cameras and the 5dii iii and iv before them, are favourites for many wedding photographers. Not only are they favourites, but they're actually marketed as such, if not directly 'this is a wedding photographers camera'. They are not solely 'consumer cameras', if at all.
Its not that I didn't like your assessment. Its just your assessment is based on very light usage when compared to many photographers, and your conclusion to that assessment is: "I dont see any problems with the way I shoot, so therefore everyone else is wrong". Well, thats a flawed conclusion.
Again, I dont shoot with any r series just yet. But I do shoot professionally, as in its my job and is my income. I'm currently using 5div bodies, and sessions range from 1 hour to 14 hours. I shoot something between 400 and 6000 or more in a given session depending on its length.
Your claim that 400 in 4 hours is a good indicator to whether the camera gives off excessive heat doesn't hold much weight to the people who use these cameras in a different way to you.
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Yeah, overheating while shooting 400 stills over a period of hours isn't credible. Especially when such rubbish is used to trash the line. He might, though I doubt it, have a problem with his particular camera. If so, one would think he'd send it in.
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A camera can only do one thing well. If it has to do more than one, you have to make compromises. In the case of the R5, Canon seems to have focused on optimizing it as a still image camera and only implementing 4K / 8K video as a second option.
Canon was only unwise in its advertising of the R5. Promoting it as a universal system with all resolutions for filming months before its release gave film people false hope. You can even film 8K sequences if it has enough time to cool down. I'll keep my personal opinion of this approach to myself. I'm not interested in film at all.
If I could, I would banish all the film gadget stuff from the camera. That just makes it more difficult to use. You could perhaps build a better WLAN setup menu instead. I actually have nothing to complain about with the R5. The price was already something else. The successor is the same price. I don't expect the R5 to become significantly cheaper. It is actually really good - even if some comments give the impression that this is no longer the case. That would be nonsense.
If you want to film, you should buy a film camera. It can do that really well. The BlackMagic springs to mind.
If you can't get good wedding photos with an R5, you should put your photography skills to the test. Sometimes the problem isn't a technical one.
Canon was only unwise in its advertising of the R5. Promoting it as a universal system with all resolutions for filming months before its release gave film people false hope. You can even film 8K sequences if it has enough time to cool down. I'll keep my personal opinion of this approach to myself. I'm not interested in film at all.
If I could, I would banish all the film gadget stuff from the camera. That just makes it more difficult to use. You could perhaps build a better WLAN setup menu instead. I actually have nothing to complain about with the R5. The price was already something else. The successor is the same price. I don't expect the R5 to become significantly cheaper. It is actually really good - even if some comments give the impression that this is no longer the case. That would be nonsense.
If you want to film, you should buy a film camera. It can do that really well. The BlackMagic springs to mind.
If you can't get good wedding photos with an R5, you should put your photography skills to the test. Sometimes the problem isn't a technical one.
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