Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?

unfocused said:
neuroanatomist said:
BozillaNZ said:
tss68nl said:
Don Haines said:
tss68nl said:
tss68nl said:
Sporgon said:
agierke said:
RLPhoto said:
9VIII said:
rpt said:
dgatwood said:
BozillaNZ said:
tss68nl said:
privatebydesign said:
9VIII said:
unfocused said:
neuroanatomist said:
unfocused said:
Don Haines said:
Famateur said:
PicaPica said:
Don Haines said:
unfocused said:
Mitch.Conner said:
Why has this made it to page 30?

Because there is an extremely high correlation between Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and frequency of internet postings.

Take some OCD, coupled with a matter of life and death, plus a lack of humour.... throw in some raging testosterone and keep the whole mixture simmering over a troll baited flame.... Add DR for seasoning.... and you get enough posts to choke the server.

Don Haines
Posts: 3084

;)


And of those 3,084 posts, 3,083 have been cheerful, humorous, positive, constructive and/or peace-making. I'd say 3,084 were that way, but hey -- nobody's perfect. :P

I was going to ask Mitch if he is experiencing Deja Moo... (The feeling that you have seen this bull before) :)

Unfocused: 2044 Posts. The only reason for posting this is to start one of those quote within a quote within a quote sequences that can look pretty cool when they get to about 20-30 quotes. Time to have some fun, demonstrate the absurdity of this thread and maybe break the Internet!

Neuroanatomist: just a few posts, really.

What? No one else wants to play?

I spy something with my little eye...

I can't, I am on a self imposed exile for a week or so. But, intriguingly enough, I have a friend coming to stay who has a D800 (shame it isn't an 810 or E though) and a 24-70 so I am hoping to do some comparison images for my own piece of mind.

What better to make of such a thread than a kaleidoscope.... :o

Good read to pass time... I wonder if the forum will eventually put a limit on how many levels you can quote, or run out of memory and crash...

Probably not—that's all just handled with CSS in your browser—but eventually it will probably get to the point where the innermost quoted message is only one character wide. :D
That would be fun!

Not a Kaleidoscope, and not an Aneurysm, it's a Squirrel!
Really?

thank god...this will surely get this thread closed. please, please, please, please.....>.<

How many generations is this ?
It does get to the point that someone will grab his camera and snap a picture of this extensive semi-natural phenomenon that best resembles the great piramids of Egypt in 2D representation (or not so sexy airial photography).
By the way... that is one fine squirrel! :o
It's funny how squirrels appear once there are enough nuts loose....
Did someone really just try to revive the topic on the pointless discussion it was about for 30 pages? :) This is kind of fight fire with fire.... stop the bullshit with.... :o I kinda prefer piramids and kaleidoscopes. However, my ultimate goal would be to actually make it look like a squirrel ;D
Let's not off topic too much otherwise the admin might lock it up. We are totally discussing on the topic. Canon two generations behind? Nah, wait till you see the dual pixel + dual sensitivity sensor is out. The patent regards to this is very interesting. This is the next gen. dual pixel sensor. They've managed to make the two half pixels having different FWC and sensitivity so it gives you high and low sensitivity at the same time without losing resolution. Just like human eye, rods and cones anyone? ::) I am personally looking forward to this solution and how it compares with Sony's exmor.

Canon two generations behind? No. Two generations ago, Canon was two generations ahead. It took Nikon that long to catch up.
Let's stay focused here people (says "unfocused") We are starting to annoy the trolls. Yes!
perhaps we need nested squirrels to kill this thread...
 

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Don Haines said:
unfocused said:
neuroanatomist said:
BozillaNZ said:
tss68nl said:
Don Haines said:
tss68nl said:
tss68nl said:
Sporgon said:
agierke said:
RLPhoto said:
9VIII said:
rpt said:
dgatwood said:
BozillaNZ said:
tss68nl said:
privatebydesign said:
9VIII said:
unfocused said:
neuroanatomist said:
unfocused said:
Don Haines said:
Famateur said:
PicaPica said:
Don Haines said:
unfocused said:
Mitch.Conner said:
Why has this made it to page 30?

Because there is an extremely high correlation between Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and frequency of internet postings.

Take some OCD, coupled with a matter of life and death, plus a lack of humour.... throw in some raging testosterone and keep the whole mixture simmering over a troll baited flame.... Add DR for seasoning.... and you get enough posts to choke the server.

Don Haines
Posts: 3084

;)


And of those 3,084 posts, 3,083 have been cheerful, humorous, positive, constructive and/or peace-making. I'd say 3,084 were that way, but hey -- nobody's perfect. :P

I was going to ask Mitch if he is experiencing Deja Moo... (The feeling that you have seen this bull before) :)

Unfocused: 2044 Posts. The only reason for posting this is to start one of those quote within a quote within a quote sequences that can look pretty cool when they get to about 20-30 quotes. Time to have some fun, demonstrate the absurdity of this thread and maybe break the Internet!

Neuroanatomist: just a few posts, really.

What? No one else wants to play?

I spy something with my little eye...

I can't, I am on a self imposed exile for a week or so. But, intriguingly enough, I have a friend coming to stay who has a D800 (shame it isn't an 810 or E though) and a 24-70 so I am hoping to do some comparison images for my own piece of mind.

What better to make of such a thread than a kaleidoscope.... :o

Good read to pass time... I wonder if the forum will eventually put a limit on how many levels you can quote, or run out of memory and crash...

Probably not—that's all just handled with CSS in your browser—but eventually it will probably get to the point where the innermost quoted message is only one character wide. :D
That would be fun!

Not a Kaleidoscope, and not an Aneurysm, it's a Squirrel!
Really?

thank god...this will surely get this thread closed. please, please, please, please.....>.<

How many generations is this ?
It does get to the point that someone will grab his camera and snap a picture of this extensive semi-natural phenomenon that best resembles the great piramids of Egypt in 2D representation (or not so sexy airial photography).
By the way... that is one fine squirrel! :o
It's funny how squirrels appear once there are enough nuts loose....
Did someone really just try to revive the topic on the pointless discussion it was about for 30 pages? :) This is kind of fight fire with fire.... stop the bullshit with.... :o I kinda prefer piramids and kaleidoscopes. However, my ultimate goal would be to actually make it look like a squirrel ;D
Let's not off topic too much otherwise the admin might lock it up. We are totally discussing on the topic. Canon two generations behind? Nah, wait till you see the dual pixel + dual sensitivity sensor is out. The patent regards to this is very interesting. This is the next gen. dual pixel sensor. They've managed to make the two half pixels having different FWC and sensitivity so it gives you high and low sensitivity at the same time without losing resolution. Just like human eye, rods and cones anyone? ::) I am personally looking forward to this solution and how it compares with Sony's exmor.

Canon two generations behind? No. Two generations ago, Canon was two generations ahead. It took Nikon that long to catch up.
Let's stay focused here people (says "unfocused") We are starting to annoy the trolls. Yes!
perhaps we need nested squirrels to kill this thread...
Aren't there some rules about squirrels on this forum, regardless of whether they have a nest or not? :o
 
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Gantz said:
I just re-registered because of the imminent 7D MK2 announcement.

Well, at least you learned the proper definition of "ultrawide angle", so I guess it wasn't a total waste of time.

No one here or at Canon will be bothered if you don't buy the new 7D. Canon will sell millions of them regardless.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
Gantz said:
I just re-registered because of the imminent 7D MK2 announcement.
No one here or at Canon will be bothered if you don't buy the new 7D. Canon will sell millions of them regardless.


Why don´t you put that in your signature?
Seems to be you favorite reply to people who dare to critizise Canon. :D

Not that it has any meaning for the customers here who talk about Canon products. But when it makes you happy that Canon sells millions of boring Cameras, to each his own. ;)

The VW Golf sells well too... i would never buy one.
 
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rs said:
Don Haines said:
unfocused said:
neuroanatomist said:
BozillaNZ said:
tss68nl said:
Don Haines said:
tss68nl said:
tss68nl said:
Sporgon said:
agierke said:
RLPhoto said:
9VIII said:
rpt said:
dgatwood said:
BozillaNZ said:
tss68nl said:
privatebydesign said:
9VIII said:
unfocused said:
neuroanatomist said:
unfocused said:
Don Haines said:
Famateur said:
PicaPica said:
Don Haines said:
unfocused said:
Mitch.Conner said:
Why has this made it to page 30?

Because there is an extremely high correlation between Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and frequency of internet postings.

Take some OCD, coupled with a matter of life and death, plus a lack of humour.... throw in some raging testosterone and keep the whole mixture simmering over a troll baited flame.... Add DR for seasoning.... and you get enough posts to choke the server.

Don Haines
Posts: 3084

;)


And of those 3,084 posts, 3,083 have been cheerful, humorous, positive, constructive and/or peace-making. I'd say 3,084 were that way, but hey -- nobody's perfect. :P

I was going to ask Mitch if he is experiencing Deja Moo... (The feeling that you have seen this bull before) :)

Unfocused: 2044 Posts. The only reason for posting this is to start one of those quote within a quote within a quote sequences that can look pretty cool when they get to about 20-30 quotes. Time to have some fun, demonstrate the absurdity of this thread and maybe break the Internet!

Neuroanatomist: just a few posts, really.

What? No one else wants to play?

I spy something with my little eye...

I can't, I am on a self imposed exile for a week or so. But, intriguingly enough, I have a friend coming to stay who has a D800 (shame it isn't an 810 or E though) and a 24-70 so I am hoping to do some comparison images for my own piece of mind.

What better to make of such a thread than a kaleidoscope.... :o

Good read to pass time... I wonder if the forum will eventually put a limit on how many levels you can quote, or run out of memory and crash...

Probably not—that's all just handled with CSS in your browser—but eventually it will probably get to the point where the innermost quoted message is only one character wide. :D
That would be fun!

Not a Kaleidoscope, and not an Aneurysm, it's a Squirrel!
Really?

thank god...this will surely get this thread closed. please, please, please, please.....>.<

How many generations is this ?
It does get to the point that someone will grab his camera and snap a picture of this extensive semi-natural phenomenon that best resembles the great piramids of Egypt in 2D representation (or not so sexy airial photography).
By the way... that is one fine squirrel! :o
It's funny how squirrels appear once there are enough nuts loose....
Did someone really just try to revive the topic on the pointless discussion it was about for 30 pages? :) This is kind of fight fire with fire.... stop the bullshit with.... :o I kinda prefer piramids and kaleidoscopes. However, my ultimate goal would be to actually make it look like a squirrel ;D
Let's not off topic too much otherwise the admin might lock it up. We are totally discussing on the topic. Canon two generations behind? Nah, wait till you see the dual pixel + dual sensitivity sensor is out. The patent regards to this is very interesting. This is the next gen. dual pixel sensor. They've managed to make the two half pixels having different FWC and sensitivity so it gives you high and low sensitivity at the same time without losing resolution. Just like human eye, rods and cones anyone? ::) I am personally looking forward to this solution and how it compares with Sony's exmor.

Canon two generations behind? No. Two generations ago, Canon was two generations ahead. It took Nikon that long to catch up.
Let's stay focused here people (says "unfocused") We are starting to annoy the trolls. Yes!
perhaps we need nested squirrels to kill this thread...
Aren't there some rules about squirrels on this forum, regardless of whether they have a nest or not? :o

Just Checking to see if this post makes the original one drop to 1-pixel wide. :P
 
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jrista said:
rs said:
Don Haines said:
unfocused said:
neuroanatomist said:
BozillaNZ said:
tss68nl said:
Don Haines said:
tss68nl said:
tss68nl said:
Sporgon said:
agierke said:
RLPhoto said:
9VIII said:
rpt said:
dgatwood said:
BozillaNZ said:
tss68nl said:
privatebydesign said:
9VIII said:
unfocused said:
neuroanatomist said:
unfocused said:
Don Haines said:
Famateur said:
PicaPica said:
Don Haines said:
unfocused said:
Mitch.Conner said:
Why has this made it to page 30?

Because there is an extremely high correlation between Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and frequency of internet postings.

Take some OCD, coupled with a matter of life and death, plus a lack of humour.... throw in some raging testosterone and keep the whole mixture simmering over a troll baited flame.... Add DR for seasoning.... and you get enough posts to choke the server.

Don Haines
Posts: 3084

;)


And of those 3,084 posts, 3,083 have been cheerful, humorous, positive, constructive and/or peace-making. I'd say 3,084 were that way, but hey -- nobody's perfect. :P

I was going to ask Mitch if he is experiencing Deja Moo... (The feeling that you have seen this bull before) :)

Unfocused: 2044 Posts. The only reason for posting this is to start one of those quote within a quote within a quote sequences that can look pretty cool when they get to about 20-30 quotes. Time to have some fun, demonstrate the absurdity of this thread and maybe break the Internet!

Neuroanatomist: just a few posts, really.

What? No one else wants to play?

I spy something with my little eye...

I can't, I am on a self imposed exile for a week or so. But, intriguingly enough, I have a friend coming to stay who has a D800 (shame it isn't an 810 or E though) and a 24-70 so I am hoping to do some comparison images for my own piece of mind.

What better to make of such a thread than a kaleidoscope.... :o

Good read to pass time... I wonder if the forum will eventually put a limit on how many levels you can quote, or run out of memory and crash...

Probably not—that's all just handled with CSS in your browser—but eventually it will probably get to the point where the innermost quoted message is only one character wide. :D
That would be fun!

Not a Kaleidoscope, and not an Aneurysm, it's a Squirrel!
Really?

thank god...this will surely get this thread closed. please, please, please, please.....>.<

How many generations is this ?
It does get to the point that someone will grab his camera and snap a picture of this extensive semi-natural phenomenon that best resembles the great piramids of Egypt in 2D representation (or not so sexy airial photography).
By the way... that is one fine squirrel! :o
It's funny how squirrels appear once there are enough nuts loose....
Did someone really just try to revive the topic on the pointless discussion it was about for 30 pages? :) This is kind of fight fire with fire.... stop the bullshit with.... :o I kinda prefer piramids and kaleidoscopes. However, my ultimate goal would be to actually make it look like a squirrel ;D
Let's not off topic too much otherwise the admin might lock it up. We are totally discussing on the topic. Canon two generations behind? Nah, wait till you see the dual pixel + dual sensitivity sensor is out. The patent regards to this is very interesting. This is the next gen. dual pixel sensor. They've managed to make the two half pixels having different FWC and sensitivity so it gives you high and low sensitivity at the same time without losing resolution. Just like human eye, rods and cones anyone? ::) I am personally looking forward to this solution and how it compares with Sony's exmor.

Canon two generations behind? No. Two generations ago, Canon was two generations ahead. It took Nikon that long to catch up.
Let's stay focused here people (says "unfocused") We are starting to annoy the trolls. Yes!
perhaps we need nested squirrels to kill this thread...
Aren't there some rules about squirrels on this forum, regardless of whether they have a nest or not? :o

Just Checking to see if this post makes the original one drop to 1-pixel wide. :P
Yeah! Even Jon is showing a sense of humor. There is still hope.
 
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unfocused said:
jrista said:
rs said:
Don Haines said:
unfocused said:
neuroanatomist said:
BozillaNZ said:
tss68nl said:
Don Haines said:
tss68nl said:
tss68nl said:
Sporgon said:
agierke said:
RLPhoto said:
9VIII said:
rpt said:
dgatwood said:
BozillaNZ said:
tss68nl said:
privatebydesign said:
9VIII said:
unfocused said:
neuroanatomist said:
unfocused said:
Don Haines said:
Famateur said:
PicaPica said:
Don Haines said:
unfocused said:
Mitch.Conner said:
Why has this made it to page 30?

Because there is an extremely high correlation between Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and frequency of internet postings.

Take some OCD, coupled with a matter of life and death, plus a lack of humour.... throw in some raging testosterone and keep the whole mixture simmering over a troll baited flame.... Add DR for seasoning.... and you get enough posts to choke the server.

Don Haines
Posts: 3084

;)


And of those 3,084 posts, 3,083 have been cheerful, humorous, positive, constructive and/or peace-making. I'd say 3,084 were that way, but hey -- nobody's perfect. :P

I was going to ask Mitch if he is experiencing Deja Moo... (The feeling that you have seen this bull before) :)

Unfocused: 2044 Posts. The only reason for posting this is to start one of those quote within a quote within a quote sequences that can look pretty cool when they get to about 20-30 quotes. Time to have some fun, demonstrate the absurdity of this thread and maybe break the Internet!

Neuroanatomist: just a few posts, really.

What? No one else wants to play?

I spy something with my little eye...

I can't, I am on a self imposed exile for a week or so. But, intriguingly enough, I have a friend coming to stay who has a D800 (shame it isn't an 810 or E though) and a 24-70 so I am hoping to do some comparison images for my own piece of mind.

What better to make of such a thread than a kaleidoscope.... :o

Good read to pass time... I wonder if the forum will eventually put a limit on how many levels you can quote, or run out of memory and crash...

Probably not—that's all just handled with CSS in your browser—but eventually it will probably get to the point where the innermost quoted message is only one character wide. :D
That would be fun!

Not a Kaleidoscope, and not an Aneurysm, it's a Squirrel!
Really?

thank god...this will surely get this thread closed. please, please, please, please.....>.<

How many generations is this ?
It does get to the point that someone will grab his camera and snap a picture of this extensive semi-natural phenomenon that best resembles the great piramids of Egypt in 2D representation (or not so sexy airial photography).
By the way... that is one fine squirrel! :o
It's funny how squirrels appear once there are enough nuts loose....
Did someone really just try to revive the topic on the pointless discussion it was about for 30 pages? :) This is kind of fight fire with fire.... stop the bullshit with.... :o I kinda prefer piramids and kaleidoscopes. However, my ultimate goal would be to actually make it look like a squirrel ;D
Let's not off topic too much otherwise the admin might lock it up. We are totally discussing on the topic. Canon two generations behind? Nah, wait till you see the dual pixel + dual sensitivity sensor is out. The patent regards to this is very interesting. This is the next gen. dual pixel sensor. They've managed to make the two half pixels having different FWC and sensitivity so it gives you high and low sensitivity at the same time without losing resolution. Just like human eye, rods and cones anyone? ::) I am personally looking forward to this solution and how it compares with Sony's exmor.

Canon two generations behind? No. Two generations ago, Canon was two generations ahead. It took Nikon that long to catch up.
Let's stay focused here people (says "unfocused") We are starting to annoy the trolls. Yes!
perhaps we need nested squirrels to kill this thread...
Aren't there some rules about squirrels on this forum, regardless of whether they have a nest or not? :o

Just Checking to see if this post makes the original one drop to 1-pixel wide. :P
Yeah! Even Jon is showing a sense of humor. There is still hope.

RLPhoto, were you upset that I put a Squirrel in your Kaleidoscope? Or that I didn't play by the standard rules of I Spy? (giving a hint before revealing the subject)
 
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9VIII said:
unfocused said:
jrista said:
rs said:
Don Haines said:
unfocused said:
neuroanatomist said:
BozillaNZ said:
tss68nl said:
Don Haines said:
tss68nl said:
tss68nl said:
Sporgon said:
agierke said:
RLPhoto said:
9VIII said:
rpt said:
dgatwood said:
BozillaNZ said:
tss68nl said:
privatebydesign said:
9VIII said:
unfocused said:
neuroanatomist said:
unfocused said:
Don Haines said:
Famateur said:
PicaPica said:
Don Haines said:
unfocused said:
Mitch.Conner said:
Why has this made it to page 30?

Because there is an extremely high correlation between Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and frequency of internet postings.

Take some OCD, coupled with a matter of life and death, plus a lack of humour.... throw in some raging testosterone and keep the whole mixture simmering over a troll baited flame.... Add DR for seasoning.... and you get enough posts to choke the server.

Don Haines
Posts: 3084

;)


And of those 3,084 posts, 3,083 have been cheerful, humorous, positive, constructive and/or peace-making. I'd say 3,084 were that way, but hey -- nobody's perfect. :P

I was going to ask Mitch if he is experiencing Deja Moo... (The feeling that you have seen this bull before) :)

Unfocused: 2044 Posts. The only reason for posting this is to start one of those quote within a quote within a quote sequences that can look pretty cool when they get to about 20-30 quotes. Time to have some fun, demonstrate the absurdity of this thread and maybe break the Internet!

Neuroanatomist: just a few posts, really.

What? No one else wants to play?

I spy something with my little eye...

I can't, I am on a self imposed exile for a week or so. But, intriguingly enough, I have a friend coming to stay who has a D800 (shame it isn't an 810 or E though) and a 24-70 so I am hoping to do some comparison images for my own piece of mind.

What better to make of such a thread than a kaleidoscope.... :o

Good read to pass time... I wonder if the forum will eventually put a limit on how many levels you can quote, or run out of memory and crash...

Probably not—that's all just handled with CSS in your browser—but eventually it will probably get to the point where the innermost quoted message is only one character wide. :D
That would be fun!

Not a Kaleidoscope, and not an Aneurysm, it's a Squirrel!
Really?

thank god...this will surely get this thread closed. please, please, please, please.....>.<

How many generations is this ?
It does get to the point that someone will grab his camera and snap a picture of this extensive semi-natural phenomenon that best resembles the great piramids of Egypt in 2D representation (or not so sexy airial photography).
By the way... that is one fine squirrel! :o
It's funny how squirrels appear once there are enough nuts loose....
Did someone really just try to revive the topic on the pointless discussion it was about for 30 pages? :) This is kind of fight fire with fire.... stop the bullshit with.... :o I kinda prefer piramids and kaleidoscopes. However, my ultimate goal would be to actually make it look like a squirrel ;D
Let's not off topic too much otherwise the admin might lock it up. We are totally discussing on the topic. Canon two generations behind? Nah, wait till you see the dual pixel + dual sensitivity sensor is out. The patent regards to this is very interesting. This is the next gen. dual pixel sensor. They've managed to make the two half pixels having different FWC and sensitivity so it gives you high and low sensitivity at the same time without losing resolution. Just like human eye, rods and cones anyone? ::) I am personally looking forward to this solution and how it compares with Sony's exmor.

Canon two generations behind? No. Two generations ago, Canon was two generations ahead. It took Nikon that long to catch up.
Let's stay focused here people (says "unfocused") We are starting to annoy the trolls. Yes!
perhaps we need nested squirrels to kill this thread...
Aren't there some rules about squirrels on this forum, regardless of whether they have a nest or not? :o

Just Checking to see if this post makes the original one drop to 1-pixel wide. :P
Yeah! Even Jon is showing a sense of humor. There is still hope.

RLPhoto, were you upset that I put a Squirrel in your Kaleidoscope? Or that I didn't play by the standard rules of I Spy? (giving a hint before revealing the subject)

 
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Oh, and speaking of squirrels, Canon's last quarterly report states that they lost 18% (y/y) on sales of dSLRs and lenses, which are quite useful for taking pictures of squirrels. Nikon – you know, that company that's two generations ahead of Canon and has much better cameras sensors low ISO DR – reported a loss of 29% (y/y).

It's a bad market for everyone. But as you can see, Nikon is well ahead of Canon in one key area: losing money on dSLR sales.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
Oh, and speaking of squirrels, Canon's last quarterly report states that they lost 18% (y/y) on sales of dSLRs and lenses, which are quite useful for taking pictures of squirrels. Nikon – you know, that company that's two generations ahead of Canon and has much better cameras sensors low ISO DR – reported a loss of 29% (y/y).

It's a bad market for everyone. But as you can see, Nikon is well ahead of Canon in one key area: losing money on dSLR sales.

That's just a statistic, tough. The real question is...why? Is it because of their camera technology...or, might it be that Nikon doesn't manage their company as well as Canon does. Could it be that Nikon, being a smaller company, is struggling to fight against the superior financial position that Canon is in, which combined with their somewhat schizophrenic management approach...they aren't fully succeeding?

I don't think the problem with Nikon's market share has anything to do with their cameras. I think it has to do with the company. I'm not saying that Nikon's cameras are better in every respect, but neither are they so inferior that just the technology alone could ever account for the difference in the companies market share and losses.

I think if Nikon stopped wasting time and money on things like the Df, and did a better job dealing with things like oil spots and hot pixels BEFORE they released their products, if they better managed their product lines and product naming, etc. Then I think they would be more effective in the market place. The problem is not Nikon's technology. They have very good cameras. Some Nikon features are better than Canon's, some Canon features are better than Nikon's. But ultimately, I think that is irrelevant as far as marketshare goes. I just don't think Nikon is big enough to play the rather wide and fast game they are playing with all their camera models and frequent updates to product lines. In the long run, I think Nikon could be more successful by whittling down their product count, and by avoiding frivolous products like the Df (or a gold plated, lizard-skin gripped superniche trophy camera.) I think focusing a little more on their lens lineup could help as well...as it seems their lenses are definitely falling behind Canon, Zeiss, and in some cases even Sigma these days.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
jrista said:
I'm not saying that Nikon's cameras are better in every respect...

No, you're not. But it seems quite a few people trolls on this forum are saying exactly that.

I agree, it's pretty much only you and your gang who have ever typed the words "Nikon's cameras [and entire system] are [is] better in every respect", so yeah it is just the trolls, for the most part, typing stuff like that out.

;)
 
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LetTheRightLensIn said:
I agree, it's pretty much only you and your gang who have ever typed the words "Nikon's cameras [and entire system] are [is] better in every respect", so yeah it is just the trolls, for the most part, typing stuff like that out.

Believe what you want.

SwampYankee said:
The Nikon D810 is better than the Canon 5DIII in every respect.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
9VIII said:
unfocused said:
jrista said:
rs said:
Don Haines said:
unfocused said:
neuroanatomist said:
BozillaNZ said:
tss68nl said:
Don Haines said:
tss68nl said:
tss68nl said:
Sporgon said:
agierke said:
RLPhoto said:
9VIII said:
rpt said:
dgatwood said:
BozillaNZ said:
tss68nl said:
privatebydesign said:
9VIII said:
unfocused said:
neuroanatomist said:
unfocused said:
Don Haines said:
Famateur said:
PicaPica said:
Don Haines said:
unfocused said:
Mitch.Conner said:
Why has this made it to page 30?
Because there is an extremely high correlation between Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and frequency of internet postings.
Take some OCD, coupled with a matter of life and death, plus a lack of humour.... throw in some raging testosterone and keep the whole mixture simmering over a troll baited flame.... Add DR for seasoning.... and you get enough posts to choke the server.
Don Haines
Posts: 3084
;)
And of those 3,084 posts, 3,083 have been cheerful, humorous, positive, constructive and/or peace-making. I'd say 3,084 were that way, but hey -- nobody's perfect. :P
I was going to ask Mitch if he is experiencing Deja Moo... (The feeling that you have seen this bull before) :)
Unfocused: 2044 Posts. The only reason for posting this is to start one of those quote within a quote within a quote sequences that can look pretty cool when they get to about 20-30 quotes. Time to have some fun, demonstrate the absurdity of this thread and maybe break the Internet!
Neuroanatomist: just a few posts, really.
What? No one else wants to play?
I spy something with my little eye...
I can't, I am on a self imposed exile for a week or so. But, intriguingly enough, I have a friend coming to stay who has a D800 (shame it isn't an 810 or E though) and a 24-70 so I am hoping to do some comparison images for my own piece of mind.
What better to make of such a thread than a kaleidoscope.... :o
Good read to pass time... I wonder if the forum will eventually put a limit on how many levels you can quote, or run out of memory and crash...
Probably not—that's all just handled with CSS in your browser—but eventually it will probably get to the point where the innermost quoted message is only one character wide. :D
That would be fun!
Not a Kaleidoscope, and not an Aneurysm, it's a Squirrel!
Really?
thank god...this will surely get this thread closed. please, please, please, please.....>.<
How many generations is this ?
It does get to the point that someone will grab his camera and snap a picture of this extensive semi-natural phenomenon that best resembles the great piramids of Egypt in 2D representation (or not so sexy airial photography).
By the way... that is one fine squirrel! :o
It's funny how squirrels appear once there are enough nuts loose....
Did someone really just try to revive the topic on the pointless discussion it was about for 30 pages? :) This is kind of fight fire with fire.... stop the bullshit with.... :o I kinda prefer piramids and kaleidoscopes. However, my ultimate goal would be to actually make it look like a squirrel ;D
Let's not off topic too much otherwise the admin might lock it up. We are totally discussing on the topic. Canon two generations behind? Nah, wait till you see the dual pixel + dual sensitivity sensor is out. The patent regards to this is very interesting. This is the next gen. dual pixel sensor. They've managed to make the two half pixels having different FWC and sensitivity so it gives you high and low sensitivity at the same time without losing resolution. Just like human eye, rods and cones anyone? ::) I am personally looking forward to this solution and how it compares with Sony's exmor.
Canon two generations behind? No. Two generations ago, Canon was two generations ahead. It took Nikon that long to catch up.
Let's stay focused here people (says "unfocused") We are starting to annoy the trolls. Yes!
perhaps we need nested squirrels to kill this thread...
Aren't there some rules about squirrels on this forum, regardless of whether they have a nest or not? :o
Just Checking to see if this post makes the original one drop to 1-pixel wide. :P
Yeah! Even Jon is showing a sense of humor. There is still hope.
RLPhoto, were you upset that I put a Squirrel in your Kaleidoscope? Or that I didn't play by the standard rules of I Spy? (giving a hint before revealing the subject)
Still going? Even the squirrels are shaking their fists!
 

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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Can't make enough of those!!! Made my day! Thanks, Don! One staying on the ground, not bothering with the ridiculousness of brand-fanatism! Thanks! :)
The reality is that if any company made a camera system that was better than everyone else at everything, they would have the entire market. Everything has plusses and minuses, strengths and weaknesses... and different people have different preferences and priorities. Go buy the camera (system) that is right for you, and ignore the fanatics with blinders on..... and when someone with different needs buys something else, don't criticise them, just rejoice that now they can take squirrel pictures too.....
 

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Don Haines said:
neuroanatomist said:
9VIII said:
unfocused said:
jrista said:
rs said:
Don Haines said:
unfocused said:
neuroanatomist said:
BozillaNZ said:
tss68nl said:
Don Haines said:
tss68nl said:
tss68nl said:
Sporgon said:
agierke said:
RLPhoto said:
9VIII said:
rpt said:
dgatwood said:
BozillaNZ said:
tss68nl said:
privatebydesign said:
9VIII said:
unfocused said:
neuroanatomist said:
unfocused said:
Don Haines said:
Famateur said:
PicaPica said:
Don Haines said:
unfocused said:
Mitch.Conner said:
Why has this made it to page 30?
Because there is an extremely high correlation between Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and frequency of internet postings.
Take some OCD, coupled with a matter of life and death, plus a lack of humour.... throw in some raging testosterone and keep the whole mixture simmering over a troll baited flame.... Add DR for seasoning.... and you get enough posts to choke the server.
Don Haines
Posts: 3084
;)
And of those 3,084 posts, 3,083 have been cheerful, humorous, positive, constructive and/or peace-making. I'd say 3,084 were that way, but hey -- nobody's perfect. :P
I was going to ask Mitch if he is experiencing Deja Moo... (The feeling that you have seen this bull before) :)
Unfocused: 2044 Posts. The only reason for posting this is to start one of those quote within a quote within a quote sequences that can look pretty cool when they get to about 20-30 quotes. Time to have some fun, demonstrate the absurdity of this thread and maybe break the Internet!
Neuroanatomist: just a few posts, really.
What? No one else wants to play?
I spy something with my little eye...
I can't, I am on a self imposed exile for a week or so. But, intriguingly enough, I have a friend coming to stay who has a D800 (shame it isn't an 810 or E though) and a 24-70 so I am hoping to do some comparison images for my own piece of mind.
What better to make of such a thread than a kaleidoscope.... :o
Good read to pass time... I wonder if the forum will eventually put a limit on how many levels you can quote, or run out of memory and crash...
Probably not—that's all just handled with CSS in your browser—but eventually it will probably get to the point where the innermost quoted message is only one character wide. :D
That would be fun!
Not a Kaleidoscope, and not an Aneurysm, it's a Squirrel!
Really?
thank god...this will surely get this thread closed. please, please, please, please.....>.<
How many generations is this ?
It does get to the point that someone will grab his camera and snap a picture of this extensive semi-natural phenomenon that best resembles the great piramids of Egypt in 2D representation (or not so sexy airial photography).
By the way... that is one fine squirrel! :o
It's funny how squirrels appear once there are enough nuts loose....
Did someone really just try to revive the topic on the pointless discussion it was about for 30 pages? :) This is kind of fight fire with fire.... stop the bullshit with.... :o I kinda prefer piramids and kaleidoscopes. However, my ultimate goal would be to actually make it look like a squirrel ;D
Let's not off topic too much otherwise the admin might lock it up. We are totally discussing on the topic. Canon two generations behind? Nah, wait till you see the dual pixel + dual sensitivity sensor is out. The patent regards to this is very interesting. This is the next gen. dual pixel sensor. They've managed to make the two half pixels having different FWC and sensitivity so it gives you high and low sensitivity at the same time without losing resolution. Just like human eye, rods and cones anyone? ::) I am personally looking forward to this solution and how it compares with Sony's exmor.
Canon two generations behind? No. Two generations ago, Canon was two generations ahead. It took Nikon that long to catch up.
Let's stay focused here people (says "unfocused") We are starting to annoy the trolls. Yes!
perhaps we need nested squirrels to kill this thread...
Aren't there some rules about squirrels on this forum, regardless of whether they have a nest or not? :o
Just Checking to see if this post makes the original one drop to 1-pixel wide. :P
Yeah! Even Jon is showing a sense of humor. There is still hope.
RLPhoto, were you upset that I put a Squirrel in your Kaleidoscope? Or that I didn't play by the standard rules of I Spy? (giving a hint before revealing the subject)
Still going? Even the squirrels are shaking their fists!

I think we may have completely swallowed the original post now. :P I don't even see it at all...
 
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jrista said:
Don Haines said:
neuroanatomist said:
9VIII said:
unfocused said:
jrista said:
rs said:
Don Haines said:
unfocused said:
neuroanatomist said:
BozillaNZ said:
tss68nl said:
Don Haines said:
tss68nl said:
tss68nl said:
Sporgon said:
agierke said:
RLPhoto said:
9VIII said:
rpt said:
dgatwood said:
BozillaNZ said:
tss68nl said:
privatebydesign said:
9VIII said:
unfocused said:
neuroanatomist said:
unfocused said:
Don Haines said:
Famateur said:
PicaPica said:
Don Haines said:
unfocused said:
Mitch.Conner said:
Why has this made it to page 30?
Because there is an extremely high correlation between Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and frequency of internet postings.
Take some OCD, coupled with a matter of life and death, plus a lack of humour.... throw in some raging testosterone and keep the whole mixture simmering over a troll baited flame.... Add DR for seasoning.... and you get enough posts to choke the server.
Don Haines
Posts: 3084
;)
And of those 3,084 posts, 3,083 have been cheerful, humorous, positive, constructive and/or peace-making. I'd say 3,084 were that way, but hey -- nobody's perfect. :P
I was going to ask Mitch if he is experiencing Deja Moo... (The feeling that you have seen this bull before) :)
Unfocused: 2044 Posts. The only reason for posting this is to start one of those quote within a quote within a quote sequences that can look pretty cool when they get to about 20-30 quotes. Time to have some fun, demonstrate the absurdity of this thread and maybe break the Internet!
Neuroanatomist: just a few posts, really.
What? No one else wants to play?
I spy something with my little eye...
I can't, I am on a self imposed exile for a week or so. But, intriguingly enough, I have a friend coming to stay who has a D800 (shame it isn't an 810 or E though) and a 24-70 so I am hoping to do some comparison images for my own piece of mind.
What better to make of such a thread than a kaleidoscope.... :o
Good read to pass time... I wonder if the forum will eventually put a limit on how many levels you can quote, or run out of memory and crash...
Probably not—that's all just handled with CSS in your browser—but eventually it will probably get to the point where the innermost quoted message is only one character wide. :D
That would be fun!
Not a Kaleidoscope, and not an Aneurysm, it's a Squirrel!
Really?
thank god...this will surely get this thread closed. please, please, please, please.....>.<
How many generations is this ?
It does get to the point that someone will grab his camera and snap a picture of this extensive semi-natural phenomenon that best resembles the great piramids of Egypt in 2D representation (or not so sexy airial photography).
By the way... that is one fine squirrel! :o
It's funny how squirrels appear once there are enough nuts loose....
Did someone really just try to revive the topic on the pointless discussion it was about for 30 pages? :) This is kind of fight fire with fire.... stop the bullshit with.... :o I kinda prefer piramids and kaleidoscopes. However, my ultimate goal would be to actually make it look like a squirrel ;D
Let's not off topic too much otherwise the admin might lock it up. We are totally discussing on the topic. Canon two generations behind? Nah, wait till you see the dual pixel + dual sensitivity sensor is out. The patent regards to this is very interesting. This is the next gen. dual pixel sensor. They've managed to make the two half pixels having different FWC and sensitivity so it gives you high and low sensitivity at the same time without losing resolution. Just like human eye, rods and cones anyone? ::) I am personally looking forward to this solution and how it compares with Sony's exmor.
Canon two generations behind? No. Two generations ago, Canon was two generations ahead. It took Nikon that long to catch up.
Let's stay focused here people (says "unfocused") We are starting to annoy the trolls. Yes!
perhaps we need nested squirrels to kill this thread...
Aren't there some rules about squirrels on this forum, regardless of whether they have a nest or not? :o
Just Checking to see if this post makes the original one drop to 1-pixel wide. :P
Yeah! Even Jon is showing a sense of humor. There is still hope.
RLPhoto, were you upset that I put a Squirrel in your Kaleidoscope? Or that I didn't play by the standard rules of I Spy? (giving a hint before revealing the subject)
Still going? Even the squirrels are shaking their fists!

I think we may have completely swallowed the original post now. :P I don't even see it at all...

I think this thread has gone nuts
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