Lenses that you want Canon to release next

Most of the times I make macro / close-up photos and sometimes it's pretty hard to take shots of butterflies, grasshoppers, lizards and similar shy animals. So a true macro lens with the following specifications would be great if it's possible to make it (I'm not sure about that).

Minimum focusing distance: 100 or 150 cm
Focal length: between 60 and 100 mm, but lower could be better
Image Stabilization
Full Time Manual focusing (!)
USM for AutoFocus
Maximum magnification: 1:1 (with Extension Tubes or Extenders: 2:1)
 
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SkynetTX said:
Most of the times I make macro / close-up photos and sometimes it's pretty hard to take shots of butterflies, grasshoppers, lizards and similar shy animals. So a true macro lens with the following specifications would be great if it's possible to make it (I'm not sure about that).

Minimum focusing distance: 100 or 150 cm
Focal length: between 60 and 100 mm, but lower could be better
Image Stabilization
Full Time Manual focusing (!)
USM for AutoFocus
Maximum magnification: 1:1 (with Extension Tubes or Extenders: 2:1)
If I understand your proposal, you want to achieve magnification 1X (life size) at a distance of 1 meter from the object.

To achieve this magnification, would need a lens with focal length about 500mm. In this case the front element would be gigantic.

On the other hand, I believe it is technically feasible a lens 300mm F5.6 truly Macro, with magnification 1X around 70 centimeters of the object.
 
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ajfotofilmagem said:
If I understand your proposal, you want to achieve magnification 1X (life size) at a distance of 1 meter from the object.

To achieve this magnification, would need a lens with focal length about 500mm. In this case the front element would be gigantic.

On the other hand, I believe it is technically feasible a lens 300mm F5.6 truly Macro, with magnification 1X around 70 centimeters of the object.

A 300 mm lens with around 70-75 cm focusing or working distance could also be good. The point is that I'd like a lens that I don't need to put right in the subject's face to get a close-up photo. :) According to the calculator at http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/macro-lenses.htm any lens can provide life size magnification if the focusing distance is for times of the focal length.

Last time I forgot that an USM version of the EF-S 55-250mm lens with FTM would also be great.
 
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SkynetTX said:
ajfotofilmagem said:
If I understand your proposal, you want to achieve magnification 1X (life size) at a distance of 1 meter from the object.

To achieve this magnification, would need a lens with focal length about 500mm. In this case the front element would be gigantic.

On the other hand, I believe it is technically feasible a lens 300mm F5.6 truly Macro, with magnification 1X around 70 centimeters of the object.

A 300 mm lens with around 70-75 cm focusing or working distance could also be good. The point is that I'd like a lens that I don't need to put right in the subject's face to get a close-up photo. :) According to the calculator at http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/macro-lenses.htm any lens can provide life size magnification if the focusing distance is for times of the focal length.

Last time I forgot that an USM version of the EF-S 55-250mm lens with FTM would also be great.
There is an important detail for use in Macro:

All lenses have their nominal focal length, measured when focused on an infinite distance. When focused on short distances, the focal length is MORE SHORT than the nominal value.
A 100mm lens when used in typical distance Macro becomes something like 60mm. A 180mm lens in Macro distances, becomes something like 110mm.
 
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ajfotofilmagem said:
SkynetTX said:
ajfotofilmagem said:
If I understand your proposal, you want to achieve magnification 1X (life size) at a distance of 1 meter from the object.

To achieve this magnification, would need a lens with focal length about 500mm. In this case the front element would be gigantic.

On the other hand, I believe it is technically feasible a lens 300mm F5.6 truly Macro, with magnification 1X around 70 centimeters of the object.

A 300 mm lens with around 70-75 cm focusing or working distance could also be good. The point is that I'd like a lens that I don't need to put right in the subject's face to get a close-up photo. :) According to the calculator at http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/macro-lenses.htm any lens can provide life size magnification if the focusing distance is for times of the focal length.

Last time I forgot that an USM version of the EF-S 55-250mm lens with FTM would also be great.
There is an important detail for use in Macro:

All lenses have their nominal focal length, measured when focused on an infinite distance. When focused on short distances, the focal length is MORE SHORT than the nominal value.
A 100mm lens when used in typical distance Macro becomes something like 60mm. A 180mm lens in Macro distances, becomes something like 110mm.

Noted and thank you! Revised list:

1. 500mm f/5.6 w/IS & AF
2. 100mm 1:1 macro, manual w/a long throw, as sharp as the Milvus 100mm
3. 400mm f/5 w/IS & AF
4. 200mm 2:1 macro, f/4, manual w/a long throw
 
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300mm f5.6, prime.
Lightweight, and so affordable that practically no-one could justify not getting one, Canon could probably get this to market for about $200. The ultimate entry level wildlife lens, perfect for vacations.
Make it high magnification too and I'd probably use it every day.

I realize that the entry level zooms tend to have these characteristics, but a Prime could get better IQ while simultaneously reducing cost.
 
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9VIII said:
300mm f5.6, prime.
Lightweight, and so affordable that practically no-one could justify not getting one, Canon could probably get this to market for about $200. The ultimate entry level wildlife lens, perfect for vacations.
Make it high magnification too and I'd probably use it every day.

I realize that the entry level zooms tend to have these characteristics, but a Prime could get better IQ while simultaneously reducing cost.

That's a good notion. I would also like to see an update to the current 300mm f/4. Not exactly what I want, but I must admit I would consider one.

In addition to the prime advantages you mention, I see these:

1. Size.
2. No dust and moisture huffing.
4. Sharper edges.
5. Less flare (fewer glass to air interfaces).
6. No lens creep.
 
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So, to put things together here's my whislist:

18-55 mm IS USM
55-250 mm IS USM II
300 or 400 mm IS USM 1:1 macro with 75-90 cm minimum focusing distance (where IS stands for Insect Stabilization as someone told in the forum :) )

All lenses must have the following features:

non-rotating front element
full time manual support (!)
no focus reset
both the zoom and the focusing ring should be at least 19-25mm wide if possible (but not wider than 30 mm)
 
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50mm f1.2L IS
85mm f1.2L IS
135mm f2.0L IS
(with optics to rival the Zeiss alternatives)

I have not been very concerned with IS on these focal lengths in the past. However, since I got the 5DSR I have become more aware of the benefits.

Apart from those 3, I would like to see upgrades of the 45mm and 90mm TS-E lenses and the introduction of a TS-E macro lens.
 
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SkynetTX said:
So, to put things together here's my whislist:

18-55 mm IS USM
55-250 mm IS USM II
300 or 400 mm IS USM 1:1 macro with 75-90 cm minimum focusing distance (where IS stands for Insect Stabilization as someone told in the forum :) )

All lenses must have the following features:

non-rotating front element
full time manual support (!)
no focus reset

Whoa! 400mm 1:1 macro? Oh, OK, I get close with my Sigma 180 + a 2X extender. But I would give this one some thought if the throw is long and smoothly damped. And it weighs less than 6 lbs. Heck, I'd buy anything with insect stabilization!
 
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My wishlist for wildlife...

EF 600mm f/4,0 IS USM Extender 1.4x integrated.

You have 2 lenses 600mm f/4,0 and 840mm f/5,6

You do not need a 800mm f/5,6 !!

If quality is the same like the
EF 200-400mm f/4L IS USM Extender 1.4x
I am happy.
 
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scyrene said:
RGF said:
Perhaps improve the quality of 24-105. The range is convenient. the extra lens on the long side is helpful

I agree. It's a really useful lens, but just needs a touch less chromatic aberration and a touch more sharpness. It's a shame that to upgrade IQ means downgrading focal range, e.g. the 24-70 (though I know it's often the case with zooms that the bigger the range, the more compromises).
You got your wish.
 
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I can afford a Big White but a lighter, cheaper, hopefully more mobile 400-600 mm f5.6-6.3 IS would suit my current birding needs. Alternatively I will also take a 200-500 mm f5.6 IS with better AF than Tammy or Sigma.
 
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