More Specifications & Images of EOS 5D Mark IV

[Loswr]

BRAVO CANON FOR THIS AMAZING 3 YEARS IN DEVELOPMENT CAMERA ;D ;D ;D

13 posts and all of them about how bad the (as yet untried) new Canon camera is at video.
Do you need a stills camera at all?

Yeah, it's almost as if the guy has Truly, Really, Obviously Lost Love for Canon. Or something. (oops, thanks ahsanford!)

Seems like Canon did – or didn't – do something he wanted, and he felt slighted. Well, as they say, hell hath no fury like a...

 

[ahsanford]

Yeah, it's almost as if the guy has Truly, Obviously, Really Lost Love for Canon. Or something.

What's a TORLL? They sound bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rle4ivrTMfw
(Big Mike from Chuck at the end!)

- A

 

[rrcphoto]

CAMERA

this is the only thing you said that was true. and you don't even really know what that word is.

comments like "it would have been easy to put in.. " shows a complete lack of understanding that Canon's Video DiGiCs and Canon's Camera DiGiCs are entirely separate entities.

If it was so easy to put in the XC10's codec they would have done it with the 1Dx Mark II,that had a far greater ability to shunt heat.

They did not.

comments like "really any point in paying $3200 for it?"

show a complete lack of reality from the author of that .. and even you should comprehend that.

So expecting something different (and better) in a smaller chassis .. is just more continual whining about something really that is completely immaterial to this camera.

it was never meant to be a full fledged video camera. get over yourself that you are actually more important over photographers that actually would use this in the real world.

Go back to your Sony and horrible to grade S-LOG and consumer Codecs and good riddance.

 

[PhotographyFirst]

Looks like it isn't going to be announced/released? until the 8th according to Nokishi ta

Edit: smartphone issues. ;(

 

[rrcphoto]

Looks like it isn't going to be announced until the 8th according to NikiS___a. Maybe a juke by Canon to fish out any moles.

link?

 

[Loswr]

Looks like it isn't going to be announced until the 8th according to NikiS___a. Maybe a juke by Canon to fish out any moles.

http://www.*********.com/canon-eos-5d-mark-iv-release-date-in-japan-is-september-8th-new-lenses-follwoing-in-october/

Announced...released. Same thing, right? :

(In case you missed the sarcasm, it seems rather unlikely – oops, more sarcasm – that they'd announce the new camera in September then the announcement of the new kit lens for it would follow in October.)

 

[rrcphoto]

Looks like it isn't going to be announced until the 8th according to NikiS___a. Maybe a juke by Canon to fish out any moles.

http://www.*********.com/canon-eos-5d-mark-iv-release-date-in-japan-is-september-8th-new-lenses-follwoing-in-october/

Announced...released. Same thing, right? :

totally. I get that

 

[PhotographyFirst]

My bad. Useful info still though.

 

[Loswr]

Edit: smartphone issues. ;(

Not so sure it's anything you've done – the site you linked has been guilty of some egregious past behavior, seems that the mods set up a 'bleep' for links to it. Likewise, embedded in the name of the Japanese source is an English 'four-letter word' which some type as sh!t to get around the forum software auto-replace, and it seems that forum edit killed your google translate link.

 

[Canon Rumors]

I removed the previous post as I don't like outing sites who botch the clock. Thank-you very much for contributing.

 

[PureClassA]

I removed the previous post as I don't like outing sites who botch the clock. Thank-you very much for contributing.

Understood

 

[eoren1]

Man, I've been all over the place over the past few weeks and throughout the 65 pages of this thread...

Coming from a 5DmkIII (a 50D before that) and using it for landscape shots (which I sell) and portraits of kids (now getting into sports), I thought the move to the IV would be a no-brainer. I saved up more than enough over the past 4 years of using the mkIII to pay for the new body and the 24-105 lens without having to think too much about it but now that the specs and price are finalized, I don't know, it just feels like 'not enough'.

Personally, I only moved from the 50D to the 5DmkIII when I had hit the limits of that crop camera and could see my files falling apart with any push in post. The 5D has been great and I've printed at 40x60 on a few occasions using Perfect Resize with the final prints being very well received. I manually enter *** data on all landscape shots which is a bit of a PITA but part of my workflow now. I've shot exactly 5 minutes of video in the past 4 years and over 100,000 actuations.

For the final price of $4,599 of the 5DmkIV and new 24-105 lens [source - earlier post with link since removed], I really expected something more than what is written on the final spec list. The bump up to 30MP is nice but not big enough as some have pointed out. We'll see about the final real-world dynamic range but I have very rarely found scenes where I needed to pull up shadows by 3 EV in any shot that would be worth sharing/printing.

For all the excitement about dual pixel RAW, it ends up just being a better DLO for in-camera JPEG? Really?!?!?

I can't help but wonder if there really is a $4,000 difference between the mkIV and what I would get for selling the mkIII plus 24-105. I'm really not seeing it in the specs as I said and am not sure I've really hit the limit of what my current setup can manage. Hope this doesn't come across as anything but honest wonder from a long time Canon user (bought myself a 350D four months before my now almost 11 year old kid was born).

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[Loswr]

For all the excitement about dual pixel RAW, it ends up just being a better DLO for in-camera JPEG? Really?!?!?

Might try re-reading that line, paying particular attention to the commas.

 

[jayphotoworks]

Finally media is waking up: (as I posted days ago....)

"Oops: Canon 5D Mark IV Spec Leak Might Mark Disappointment for Filmmakers"
http://nofilmschool.com/2016/08/canon-5d-mark-iv-specs-leak-wide

"MJPEG continues to be the codec of choice for 4K on Canon cameras… Give me a break. The file sizes are unmanageable and it always needs transcoding. This is the codec Panasonic used as their lower-quality 720p option 7 years ago on the GH1 and subsequently dumped!

So if it is really a 2x crop EF mount camera in 4K… Oh dear…with no 4K HDMI or LOG profile, not even an EVF or articulated screen, nor a mount that can accept a Speed Booster to mitigate the crop factor, is there really any point in paying $3200 for it?

I can’t see being a more compelling buy for 4K compared to a used 1D C.

It’s a shame because Canon could quite easily have put the glorious 305Mbit/s XF codec from the XC10 in the camera along with the superb set of pictures profiles and Canon LOG. As it is the 5D Mark IV just doesn’t move things on for video based on the specs that have already come out. The only reason I’d get it is for stills and Dual Pixel AF."

http://www.eoshd.com/2016/08/photokina-2016-preview-summary-year-video-far/

"It turns out that with the Canon 1D C in 2012, the company was laying the groundwork for future 2016 cameras in terms of the codec. It’s just a shame the codec in question is a 1990’s one."

"The Samsung NX1’s 28 megapixel sensor gives us the closest idea of what the likely frame width is for 30 megapixel. In 16:9 aspect ratio it measures approximately 6500 pixels horizontally (6.5K in video terms) and 3600 pixels vertically. The Samsung sensor reads the whole 6.5K frame out to the image processor, which then down-samples to 4K in-camera. It’s extremely unlikely the full frame Canon sensor will be able to do the same thing as there’s simply no precedent for it in the range. Canon’s flagship 1D X Mark II can’t even read out a 20MP full frame image for video."

http://www.eoshd.com/2016/08/depth-look-video-specs-canon-5d-mark-iv/



BRAVO CANON FOR THIS AMAZING 3 YEARS IN DEVELOPMENT CAMERA ;D ;D ;D

Yawn. The new Canon camera sucks for video. The new Canon camera sucks for stills. Nikon is better. Samsung is better. Sony was better 12 years ago. The new Canon camera sucks as a paperweight. Yawn.

Meanwhile, in the real world (as opposed to the Internet), the new Canon camera will be bought by far more people than any competitors' offerings, the whiner keyboard jockeys will be vastly outnumbered by satisfied and productive photographers and videographers, and life will go on.

Some of these new posters are being facetious, but to be honest, as i read and re-read the leaked press release, the more I find the 5Div's video specs underwhelming. The commentary from those linked sites criticizing the video specs are not completely out of line.

You guys out here that are dyed-in-the-wool stills shooters should go easy on us video guys for a change. I find a common stereotype when we criticize Canon is that someone will tell us to go to Sony and get lost with their "confusing menus," "consumer codecs," etc..

Not all of us want or shoot on Sony, myself being one of them.

 

[rrcphoto]

For all the excitement about dual pixel RAW, it ends up just being a better DLO for in-camera JPEG? Really?!?!?

Might try re-reading that line, paying particular attention to the commas.

Truth.

 

[tpatana]

https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/products/details/cameras/dslr/eos-5d-mark-iv

 

[Wesley]

No, I was answering your post the only way I can. You asked what exactly I can tell you about them, and the only thing I know for certain is that they serve autofocus. Anything regarding DPRAW would be total speculation, and thus not meet your criterion ("exactly").

That was my point.
You guys are putting all your faith in a feature (DPRAW) that you don't exactly know about.
The sole crutch. All eggs in one basket :

 

[John2016]

BRAVO CANON FOR THIS AMAZING 3 YEARS IN DEVELOPMENT CAMERA ;D ;D ;D

13 posts and all of them about how bad the (as yet untried) new Canon camera is at video.
Do you need a stills camera at all?

Yeah, it's almost as if the guy has Truly, Really, Obviously Lost Love for Canon. Or something. (oops, thanks ahsanford!)

Seems like Canon did – or didn't – do something he wanted, and he felt slighted. Well, as they say, hell hath no fury like a...

 

[Donkey_Kong]

Since the 5DIV takes the same batteries as the III, does this mean that the new camera will use the same battery grip?

 

[smorgo]

Since the 5DIV takes the same batteries as the III, does this mean that the new camera will use the same battery grip?

No. The III uses the BG-E11. The IV uses the BG-E20. The shape of the camera and the controls have more influence over grip compatibility than the batteries.