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[Maiaibing]

- Improvement in autofocus - The AF in 5DIII isn´t bad, but it´s not also very good.

: :-\

wth?

CRAZIEST statement Ive read in 50+ pages of posts.

Even my 5d3 is on the table giggling at that one. 8)

Poor low light AF was a key reason I gave up on the 5DIII (together with very marginal IQ improvement) and stuck with my 5DII's. -2ev is no laughing matter when you are shooting at dusk.

And Canon agrees: "Canon tells us the chief requests of 5D owners were more dynamic range and resolution, as well as better AF accuracy and speed."

 

[Donkey_Kong]

I don't kkow how anyone could bash the AF of the 5DIII, it was and still is just superb. Literally second to none. Some people really have no idea what they are talking about.

 

[Maiaibing]

I don't kkow how anyone could bash the AF of the 5DIII, it was and still is just superb. Literally second to none. Some people really have no idea what they are talking about.

Yeah - please do remember to write to Canon so they get this right the next time they develop a new camera. :

 

[ahsanford]

I really don't want to join another 5D4 thread, so I'll post here:

1) I'm not a video person, forgive me, but how does one shoot at an UWA focal length on the EF mount in 4k with a 1.74x crop? Are sales of the Canon 11-24L / Sigma 12-24 / Tamron 15-30 VC about to skyrocket for that very reason?

2) Can we play around with the dual pixel functionality on our own with some sample files to see what it can do?

3) Any confirmation of illuminated buttons or automated AFMA? I thought that might sneak in as a second-tier sort of feature we might hear about on announcement day from first hands-on folks.

(Thanks for sparing me another 65 page thread. )

- A

 

[Loswr]

2) Can we play around with the dual pixel functionality on our own with some sample files to see what it can do?

In addition to the sample RAW files, you'll need a new (not yet available) version of DPP.

 

[ahsanford]

2) Can we play around with the dual pixel functionality on our own with some sample files to see what it can do?

In addition to the sample RAW files, you'll need a new (not yet available) version of DPP.

#shucks

- A

 

[Deleted member 378221]

1) I'm not a video person, forgive me, but how does one shoot at an UWA focal length on the EF mount in 4k with a 1.74x crop? Are sales of the Canon 11-24L / Sigma 12-24 / Tamron 15-30 VC about to skyrocket for that very reason?

There are a handful wide-angle third-party EF-S lenses that do not protrude into the body and thus can be mounted on a full frame camera. Since the 4K crop factor is greater than 1.6 those should in theory be able to cover the full "4K image circle".

Don't try mounting EF-S lenses on Fullframe unless you know exactly what I mean or it could wreck your camera.

 

[ahsanford]

Also -- again: ignorant with video -- I understand the kick in the butt/pride/hopes some of the video specs are, but those are wishes / keeping up with the joneses sort of things.

But this 1.74x crop for 4K seems a bit of a death sentence, doesn't it? Are documentarians and field reporters going to bounce to Sony for this?

Someone please explain to me (use small words, I'm a dolt with this) how 1.74x crop will work for videographers. Do you just slap an 11-24L on there and just tape it down at 11mm? (You can only back your feet up so much, right?)

#vidiot #acknowledgmentofignorance #pleaseeducateme

- A

 

[tron]

Also -- again: ignorant with video -- I understand the kick in the butt/pride/hopes some of the video specs are, but those are wishes / keeping up with the joneses sort of things.

But this 1.74x crop for 4K seems a bit of a death sentence, doesn't it? Are documentarians and field reporters going to bounce to Sony for this?

Someone please explain to me (use small words, I'm a dolt with this) how 1.74x crop will work for videographers. Do you just slap an 11-24L on there and just tape it down at 11mm? (You can only back your feet up so much, right?)

#vidiot #acknowledgmentofignorance #pleaseeducateme

- A

I am probably the last person to talk about video since although I have 2 5D3s and a 7D2 I have only shot one video only. That was a 5 min video using my 7D2 and 500mm. I believe I could benefit in a similar situation but this is obviously the minority of cases. It would be better if the user could chose between a full frame and a one-to-one pixel mapping.

 

[ahsanford]

Also -- again: ignorant with video -- I understand the kick in the butt/pride/hopes some of the video specs are, but those are wishes / keeping up with the joneses sort of things.

But this 1.74x crop for 4K seems a bit of a death sentence, doesn't it? Are documentarians and field reporters going to bounce to Sony for this?

Someone please explain to me (use small words, I'm a dolt with this) how 1.74x crop will work for videographers. Do you just slap an 11-24L on there and just tape it down at 11mm? (You can only back your feet up so much, right?)

#vidiot #acknowledgmentofignorance #pleaseeducateme

- A

I am probably the last person to talk about video since although I have 2 5D3s and a 7D2 I have only shot one video only. That was a 5 min video using my 7D2 and 500mm. I believe I could benefit in a similar situation but this is obviously the minority of cases. It would be better if the user could chose between a full frame and a one-to-one pixel mapping.

Right, so unlike a 1:1 rig where you could swap from stills to video with the lens you have on there, wouldn't a large crop factor mean that folks who need video/stills at the same event would need to simply have a second body with a much wider lens on it just for video? (Or is that what they already do today?)

- A

 

[Jack Douglas]

Also -- again: ignorant with video -- I understand the kick in the butt/pride/hopes some of the video specs are, but those are wishes / keeping up with the joneses sort of things.

But this 1.74x crop for 4K seems a bit of a death sentence, doesn't it? Are documentarians and field reporters going to bounce to Sony for this?

Someone please explain to me (use small words, I'm a dolt with this) how 1.74x crop will work for videographers. Do you just slap an 11-24L on there and just tape it down at 11mm? (You can only back your feet up so much, right?)

#vidiot #acknowledgmentofignorance #pleaseeducateme

- A

Yes, I was just thinking how nicely the 11-24 will fit my minimal video shooting needs and generally when shooting 300 X2 I need more reach so I think this is just fine for me.

Jack

 

[Sharlin]

Also -- again: ignorant with video -- I understand the kick in the butt/pride/hopes some of the video specs are, but those are wishes / keeping up with the joneses sort of things.

But this 1.74x crop for 4K seems a bit of a death sentence, doesn't it? Are documentarians and field reporters going to bounce to Sony for this?

Someone please explain to me (use small words, I'm a dolt with this) how 1.74x crop will work for videographers. Do you just slap an 11-24L on there and just tape it down at 11mm? (You can only back your feet up so much, right?)

It's certainly unorthodox but you can use any third-party manufacturer's crop EF lenses to shoot 4K with the 5D4 Canon's EF-S glass intentionally does not fit but all other crop lenses are actually EF, not EF-S.

 

[Donkey_Kong]

Is the SD card slot in the 5DIV UHS-II?

 

[tron]

Is the SD card slot in the 5DIV UHS-II?

No it is not.

 

[Donkey_Kong]

Is the SD card slot in the 5DIV UHS-II?

No it is not.

Is it the same SD slot as found in the 5DIII?

 

[tron]

Is the SD card slot in the 5DIV UHS-II?

No it is not.

Is it the same SD slot as found in the 5DIII?

At least I hope it is the same found on 7DII. Much faster than that of 5DIII...

 

[Maiaibing]

Also -- again: ignorant with video -- I understand the kick in the butt/pride/hopes some of the video specs are, but those are wishes / keeping up with the joneses sort of things.

But this 1.74x crop for 4K seems a bit of a death sentence, doesn't it? Are documentarians and field reporters going to bounce to Sony for this?

Someone please explain to me (use small words, I'm a dolt with this) how 1.74x crop will work for videographers. Do you just slap an 11-24L on there and just tape it down at 11mm? (You can only back your feet up so much, right?)

#vidiot #acknowledgmentofignorance #pleaseeducateme

- A

Tony Northtrop shows the difference at the end of his (excellent) preview. Looks massive to me (not into video myself but seems there are good reasons for the video crowd's disappointment).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quwAvqcbLRw

 

[tama]

Well, after 42 years: bye bye Canon.

Disappointed! No flip screen, no C-log, no zebra/focus peaking, ...
Could be simply possible; Canon, ask help from innovative customer-oriented people like Magic Lantern,
and don't put sluggish old fashioned cardslots (why not SCSI?) in this camera. I'm a customer and
photo/video-grapher and don't care for your C-range. So refuse to take this crippled dslr and pay a
futuristic price for some about the date tech and specs, less or barely on par with competitors.
Canon could easily make this the top-of-the-bill ff dslr photo/video camera (you have DP raw!) like the 5D MKII.
Only positive for me is DPAF and more pixels than needed (24MP).

Hello metabones and ...

(P.s. Our photo/video club started with 18 members, 72% Canon. Now 34 members, 38% Canon and declining...)

 

[Loswr]

Well, after 42 years: bye bye Canon.

Disappointed! No flip screen, no C-log, no zebra/focus peaking, ...
Could be simply possible; Canon, ask help from innovative customer-oriented people like Magic Lantern,
and don't put sluggish old fashioned cardslots (why not SCSI?) in this camera. I'm a customer and
photo/video-grapher and don't care for your C-range. So refuse to take this crippled dslr and pay a
futuristic price for some about the date tech and specs, less or barely on par with competitors.
Canon could easily make this the top-of-the-bill ff dslr photo/video camera (you have DP raw!) like the 5D MKII.
Only positive for me is DPAF and more pixels than needed (24MP).

Hello metabones and ...

(P.s. Our photo/video club started with 18 members, 72% Canon. Now 34 members, 38% Canon and declining...)

Wow, I guess Canon is doomed. Bummer.

(P.s. H&G : )

 

[Maiaibing]

Don't try mounting EF-S lenses on Fullframe unless you know exactly what I mean or it could wreck your camera.

Did this once with my 5DII. Mirror knocked out of position. Very easy to fix (of course not recommended, but no actual disaster or damage). Don't know if it would be the same for the motor-mirror of the 5DS/R and 5DIV however.