More Specifications & Images of EOS 5D Mark IV

jayphotoworks said:
ahsanford said:
Also -- again: ignorant with video -- I understand the kick in the butt/pride/hopes some of the video specs are, but those are wishes / keeping up with the joneses sort of things.

But this 1.74x crop for 4K seems a bit of a death sentence, doesn't it? Are documentarians and field reporters going to bounce to Sony for this?

Someone please explain to me (use small words, I'm a dolt with this) how 1.74x crop will work for videographers. Do you just slap an 11-24L on there and just tape it down at 11mm? (You can only back your feet up so much, right?)

#vidiot #acknowledgmentofignorance #pleaseeducateme

- A

I would say the crop is not ideal for an all in one hybrid camera, but probably workable. A 16-35 2.8 would be 28mm-ish which would be wide enough for most applications. You have more flexibility to re-frame than to find 2x the amount of light in certain venues with the F4 lens.

1.7ish crop is pretty standard for the market segment of cameras I've either purchased or are considering in the next 2-3 months. The Ursa Mini 4K I've shot on is around that crop factor with EF lenses. Shooting 120fps high speed on that camera is 3.4x crop (windowed). The Red Raven is 1.76 or so with EF lenses. But these cameras can't shoot stills and I wouldn't take them with me to any run'n'gun, wedding or eng assignment.
Pro often uses external recorder like Atomos Ninja for 4k, does 5d4 support this basic function?
 
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rrcphoto said:
John2016 said:

this is the only thing you said that was true. and you don't even really know what that word is.

comments like "it would have been easy to put in.. " shows a complete lack of understanding that Canon's Video DiGiCs and Canon's Camera DiGiCs are entirely separate entities.

If it was so easy to put in the XC10's codec they would have done it with the 1Dx Mark II,that had a far greater ability to shunt heat.

They did not.

comments like "really any point in paying $3200 for it?"

show a complete lack of reality from the author of that .. and even you should comprehend that.

So expecting something different (and better) in a smaller chassis .. is just more continual whining about something really that is completely immaterial to this camera.

it was never meant to be a full fledged video camera. get over yourself that you are actually more important over photographers that actually would use this in the real world.

Go back to your Sony and horrible to grade S-LOG and consumer Codecs and good riddance.

"CAMERA" - Looks like more and more people have no clue: :-* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quwAvqcbLRw
 
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dilbert said:
I've yet to see any serious "videographer" say that the 5D4 delivers for them and I think the crop'd 4K mode is going to be a very hard sell.

Back when the 5D2 was announced, Canon was on the leading edge of video in DSLRs. Now Canon would appear to not care and be doing the least amount possible. Why would Canon do that? So that they don't eat their own lunch.

Rather than "hold back" their DSLRs (such as the 5D4), Canon should be doing more with the EOS Cinema line to differentiate them and make them desirable to have and use for video rather than the 5D4.

And it is the definition of the word 'serious'.
'Serious' videographers are buy definition in the minority. How many 'serious' videographers' would use a stills-priority DSLR of any description as their main camera?
Even then how many times do 'serious' videographers 'need' the full functionality of what they are offering.

As an example I am probably not alone in saying that for 90% of what I shoot the gear I have is overkill, I have it for those 10% of times I need the functionality. Even 'serious' videographers will probably be well catered for with the 5D4 a significatn amount of the time (ie when they are shooting video 'seriously').
 
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