New 5D MK2 Owner

[briansquibb]

Congrats Ron!
I hate reading manuals...but i did find some good info on YouTube.
I would go there first. I would try to stick with Primes but you have a nice
24-70 and decent 50. Adjusting from the AF and system on the T2i to 5D takes getting used to but i don't
have a prob with it. Just takes a little time and practice. Even the heavier weight of the body.

Thanks! Starting to realize what other photographers were saying on this site regarding the poor AF function in low light now....

just stick with the center point only and only use f2.8 or faster lenses, and don't use AI servo...

The centre point is OK with f/4 lens, although f/2.8 lens are better

 

[wickidwombat]

Congrats Ron!
I hate reading manuals...but i did find some good info on YouTube.
I would go there first. I would try to stick with Primes but you have a nice
24-70 and decent 50. Adjusting from the AF and system on the T2i to 5D takes getting used to but i don't
have a prob with it. Just takes a little time and practice. Even the heavier weight of the body.

Thanks! Starting to realize what other photographers were saying on this site regarding the poor AF function in low light now....

just stick with the center point only and only use f2.8 or faster lenses, and don't use AI servo...

The centre point is OK with f/4 lens, although f/2.8 lens are better

in decent light f4 is ok but i find the 24-105 really struggles in poor or very low light but the f2.8 lenses and fast primes can get focus lock ok.

 

[briansquibb]

Congrats Ron!
I hate reading manuals...but i did find some good info on YouTube.
I would go there first. I would try to stick with Primes but you have a nice
24-70 and decent 50. Adjusting from the AF and system on the T2i to 5D takes getting used to but i don't
have a prob with it. Just takes a little time and practice. Even the heavier weight of the body.

Thanks! Starting to realize what other photographers were saying on this site regarding the poor AF function in low light now....

just stick with the center point only and only use f2.8 or faster lenses, and don't use AI servo...

The centre point is OK with f/4 lens, although f/2.8 lens are better

in decent light f4 is ok but i find the 24-105 really struggles in poor or very low light but the f2.8 lenses and fast primes can get focus lock ok.

The AF needs good contrast to focus in low light - no good pointing it at a plain dark wall. The centre point is more sensitive at F4 and even more at F2.8 - the 5DII is the best of all at focussing in low light. Also see this posting by neuro

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=1736.30

 

[RonQ]

I've been playing around with the camera today and I would like to know if any of you can help or direct me to a tutorial or information with the following.

1) How to set-up Custom Functions?
2) Where is the copyright info on the camera?

The custom function feature is different than the previous two body's I own, so any assistance would be so much appreciated. Also, fon my T2i has a function to add my copyright info in the camera, I cant seem to locate it on the 5D.

Thanks Guys
Ron

 

[Axilrod]

I've been playing around with the camera today and I would like to know if any of you can help or direct me to a tutorial or information with the following.

1) How to set-up Custom Functions?
2) Where is the copyright info on the camera?

The custom function feature is different than the previous two body's I own, so any assistance would be so much appreciated. Also, fon my T2i has a function to add my copyright info in the camera, I cant seem to locate it on the 5D.

Thanks Guys
Ron

Hey Ron, glad to hear you are enjoying your camera. To set up a custom function, simply set the camera in any mode (manual, Av, Tv) and set everything to your liking. If you save settings in aperture priority, your custom function will also be aperture priority. Once everything is how you ilke it, go to the 7th tab on the menu (has a wrench on it) and select "Camera User Setting"; then select "Register Setting" and then select which dial you want it on (C1,C2,C3).
Hope that helps!

 

[Breach]

As for the copyright EXIF I think it can only be set using the EOS utility, not from the camera itself.

 

[wickidwombat]

Congrats Ron!
I hate reading manuals...but i did find some good info on YouTube.
I would go there first. I would try to stick with Primes but you have a nice
24-70 and decent 50. Adjusting from the AF and system on the T2i to 5D takes getting used to but i don't
have a prob with it. Just takes a little time and practice. Even the heavier weight of the body.

Thanks! Starting to realize what other photographers were saying on this site regarding the poor AF function in low light now....

just stick with the center point only and only use f2.8 or faster lenses, and don't use AI servo...

The centre point is OK with f/4 lens, although f/2.8 lens are better

in decent light f4 is ok but i find the 24-105 really struggles in poor or very low light but the f2.8 lenses and fast primes can get focus lock ok.

The AF needs good contrast to focus in low light - no good pointing it at a plain dark wall. The centre point is more sensitive at F4 and even more at F2.8 - the 5DII is the best of all at focussing in low light. Also see this posting by neuro

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=1736.30

I my experience the 1D has significantly better AF in low light than the 5D2 when using the 24-105
however I find as long as i'm using fast glass on the 5D2 then the center AF point is fine and using the AF assist of the ST-E2 copy improves it even more.

 

[CowGummy]

YAY!!! Just picked up my new camera and I'm very excited
Is there anything you guys can recommend I should do first, I know I have a huge learning curve with this camera so anything you guys can tell me I should and should not do would be very helpful.
Thanks guys!!
Ron

Ron, first off: Congratulations on your new body! As you know I'm in the same boat as you - picked mine up last week. I too am amazed at what this camera is capable of, but then again I've come from a 400D, so it's been a long time overdue! I've just come home from shooting a music gig, and being able to use iso3200 without worrying too much about noise is a true blessing.

Advice and suggestions? I second the points raised here about af micro adjustment, mine weren't too bad, but all ended up being adjusted by about -/+ 4... give or take. Also, as mentioned before: shoot, shoot, shoot. And then shoot some more! I'm hoping to get my dust 'chunk' issue sorted soon and then will be in 5DII heaven just as yourself! Again, congrats.

Cheers,
Steve
Thanks Steve, I hope you get your issue worked out.....
When you were shooting your music gig, did the camera hunt alot?

Thanks! Yeah, all sorted now - they swapped the body for me yesterday, awesome service from the retailer.
Did my 5Dii hunt for focus during the gig? To be honest, I didn't notice anything I couldn't live with... But then again, I've come from a 400D and was shooting with a 50mm prime at f/1.8 - f2.8 most of the time. Also, I was using centre focus point exclusively with the AF point expansion enabled in the custom menu. So not sure if my standards are simply lower than others due to not having shot on a 1-series body or 7D.

Cheers and hope yours is giving you as much joy as mine for me!

 

[RonQ]

Ron, first off: Congratulations on your new body! As you know I'm in the same boat as you - picked mine up last week. I too am amazed at what this camera is capable of, but then again I've come from a 400D, so it's been a long time overdue! I've just come home from shooting a music gig, and being able to use iso3200 without worrying too much about noise is a true blessing.

Advice and suggestions? I second the points raised here about af micro adjustment, mine weren't too bad, but all ended up being adjusted by about -/+ 4... give or take. Also, as mentioned before: shoot, shoot, shoot. And then shoot some more! I'm hoping to get my dust 'chunk' issue sorted soon and then will be in 5DII heaven just as yourself! Again, congrats.

Cheers,
Steve
Thanks Steve, I hope you get your issue worked out.....
When you were shooting your music gig, did the camera hunt alot?

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Thanks! Yeah, all sorted now - they swapped the body for me yesterday, awesome service from the retailer.
Did my 5Dii hunt for focus during the gig? To be honest, I didn't notice anything I couldn't live with... But then again, I've come from a 400D and was shooting with a 50mm prime at f/1.8 - f2.8 most of the time. Also, I was using centre focus point exclusively with the AF point expansion enabled in the custom menu. So not sure if my standards are simply lower than others due to not having shot on a 1-series body or 7D.

Cheers and hope yours is giving you as much joy as mine for me!
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Awesome! That's the way it should be with an expensive body like that.....
When you say you enabled AF expansion in custom settings, how did set that up?

 

[CowGummy]

Hey Ron,

The center AF point on the 5Dii has 6 invisible AF assist points which can be enabled in Custom Function III - option 7. According to the manual this only works when shooting in AI Servo mode, but then again, that's when you would really want it as it gives you those extra 6 invisible assist AF points that will help with tracking focus on moving subjects.
To be honest, I'm not sure why Canon didn't default the 5Dii to have this enabled out of the box? I wonder if some of the AF issues people have complained about on the 5Dii might be fixed with this enabled?!

 

[MichaelK]

Hi!

The poor AF function on the 5D mark II is enough reason for me to wait for the new 5D mark III. With the rumored 18mp and possible 1Dx sensor, I'm sure Canon will take care of the shocking AF system on the 5D mark II.

So I guess I'm waiting!

 

[briansquibb]

Hi!

The poor AF function on the 5D mark II is enough reason for me to wait for the new 5D mark III. With the rumored 18mp and possible 1Dx sensor, I'm sure Canon will take care of the shocking AF system on the 5D mark II.

So I guess I'm waiting!

And so the 5DII AF myth continues ......

Yes I know the 7D AF is better - but shocking is rather over dramatising an AF that is accurate and still the (current) best in low light. It may have its limitations - but shocking - NO

I take a lot of pictures of animals which dont stay still for me or even pose with good backgrounds. So I just stick it on Servo, use the joystick for AF point control and away I go - relying of the blurred backgrond to improve things. Shooting wide open on a moving subject means the AF has to be good as the DOF is very shallow, also I have to get a high percentage of keepers as the animals dont respond well to 'just another one please' ;D ;D

So here is a light hearted one that I took recently. I take pictures for a goat sanctuary that need pictures of goats for rehoming - so getting the aw factor is more important than the quality of the photo.

 

[AdamJ]

Did anyone else spot the spelling mistake on the photo that Ron posted? ;D

 

[dstppy]

And so the 5DII AF myth continues ......

Yes I know the 7D AF is better - but shocking is rather over dramatizing an AF that is accurate and still the (current) best in low light. It may have its limitations - but shocking - NO

I take a lot of pictures of animals which don't stay still for me or even pose with good backgrounds. So I just stick it on Servo, use the joystick for AF point control and away I go - relying of the blurred background to improve things. Shooting wide open on a moving subject means the AF has to be good as the DOF is very shallow, also I have to get a high percentage of keepers as the animals don't respond well to 'just another one please' ;D ;D

Aha! Well there's your issue, you're obviously just not large and scary and/or charming enough to make everything from animals, to children, to adults just freeze when you take a picture of them ;D

Seriously though, I, too, have seen tons of one-off posts going on about AF that don't reflect either actual usage or basic scientific comparison and am growing a bit tired of them. I've not had much chance to use my 5DmkII and I find myself looking for something wrong in the AF compared to the 60D and know that deep down it's just because I've read it over and over again. Until I shoot with one body on each shoulder and alternate, I don't think that I should be making an even anecdotal comparison . . .

In the end, it comes back to who's using it and how they're using it. It can be (over) simplified to 'better" AF just improves your "luck" when it comes to catching a shot. If you know what you're doing (briansquibb's explanation above is one example) then you've reduced the necessity 'luck' part of the equation.

Just my opinion (except the scary/charming part, that's all fact ) -- worth no more than the price paid

 

[briansquibb]

And so the 5DII AF myth continues ......

Yes I know the 7D AF is better - but shocking is rather over dramatizing an AF that is accurate and still the (current) best in low light. It may have its limitations - but shocking - NO

I take a lot of pictures of animals which don't stay still for me or even pose with good backgrounds. So I just stick it on Servo, use the joystick for AF point control and away I go - relying of the blurred background to improve things. Shooting wide open on a moving subject means the AF has to be good as the DOF is very shallow, also I have to get a high percentage of keepers as the animals don't respond well to 'just another one please' ;D ;D

Aha! Well there's your issue, you're obviously just not large and scary and/or charming enough to make everything from animals, to children, to adults just freeze when you take a picture of them ;D

You are right, scary is not one of my features, although being large people are wary if I get angry ;D ;D ;D

 

[rahkshi007]

hi, i just jump from nikon crop sensor d3000 to canon 5d markii when it just 2000 USD. when it equip with my 24-70mm L. the first few image i was like "wow". i also have the EF 50mm f1.4. any other suggestion lens ? as i was new to canon product. i mostly do landscape and some outdoor portrait..

 

[briansquibb]

For landscape the 17-40f/4 is very good when used at f/8 - f/11

Others include the 14mm, TSE-17, 8-14 (fish eye)

 

[RonQ]

Did anyone else spot the spelling mistake on the photo that Ron posted? ;D

Ahhhh, damn watermark. I did that on the fly with lightroom processing from Raw to JPEG. Ha, Ha..... Thanks for the catch Adam You know, I'll keep it up there for giggles

 

[RonQ]

hi, i just jump from nikon crop sensor d3000 to canon 5d markii when it just 2000 USD. when it equip with my 24-70mm L. the first few image i was like "wow". i also have the EF 50mm f1.4. any other suggestion lens ? as i was new to canon product. i mostly do landscape and some outdoor portrait..

Seems like you have money to spend Look for a 70-200 f2.8 and try that. Great lens very sharp pics.

 

[rahkshi007]

hi, will u recommend the version IS or IS ii ?