New Canon 50/85 L lenses?

Don't hold your breath! The rumors that preceded the eventual release of the 24-70 f/2.8 MkII went on for so many years I bought a 24-105 f/4is just to see me through until the new lens shipped. I was one of the unfortunate people who had a string of utterly hopeless 24-70 f/2.8 MkI zooms, so the wait for the MkII was a long one.

If you need a 50 or an 85 in the meantime, take a look at the Sigma Art lenses.

-pw
 
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pwp said:
Don't hold your breath! The rumors that preceded the eventual release of the 24-70 f/2.8 MkII went on for so many years I bought a 24-105 f/4is just to see me through until the new lens shipped. I was one of the unfortunate people who had a string of utterly hopeless 24-70 f/2.8 MkI zooms, so the wait for the MkII was a long one.

If you need a 50 or an 85 in the meantime, take a look at the Sigma Art lenses.

-pw

Hell no! If you want a 85mm lens, buy a used 85 1.2L II (!!!)
The sigmas are notorious for falling apart.

Also, isn't the new 85 canon are going to release be a 1.2L? I feel going backwards to a 1.4 would be a major step towards mediocracy
 
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aa_angus said:
Also, isn't the new 85 canon are going to release be a 1.2L? I feel going backwards to a 1.4 would be a major step towards mediocracy

If they make a perfect 1.4 lens (L, sealed, fast and accurate focus, IS, sharp all across, no fringe at 1.4) I think it would be a total winner. I don't think they would be able to make a fast focusing 1.2 with IS
 
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Mancubus said:
aa_angus said:
Also, isn't the new 85 canon are going to release be a 1.2L? I feel going backwards to a 1.4 would be a major step towards mediocracy

If they make a perfect 1.4 lens (L, sealed, fast and accurate focus, IS, sharp all across, no fringe at 1.4) I think it would be a total winner. I don't think they would be able to make a fast focusing 1.2 with IS

I would rather no weather sealing or IS and 1.2 over both of those features and 1.4.
Canon is famous for its 1.2 primes!
 
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rfdesigner said:
aa_angus said:
The sigmas are notorious for falling apart.

really?

I've never read that before, googled and found nothing seriously negative.

I did find this: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1409860/0

Actually you should do a search on this very forum. I had a Sigma 12-24...which failed three times and had to go back to Sigma each time. Loose internal optics, failed AF motor and a failed aperture. It was the most fragile lens I've ever had and that was before I went pro. Then there is the notorious AF inconsistency issues across most of their lens portfolio and then there is the appalling finish that would literally fall off after 2 years of quite light use. I had a 70-200 f2.8, 180mm macro, 120-300 f2.8 OS and 24-70 f2.8. I had issues with them all. Yes...I'm done with Sigma.
 
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aa_angus said:
Mancubus said:
aa_angus said:
Also, isn't the new 85 canon are going to release be a 1.2L? I feel going backwards to a 1.4 would be a major step towards mediocracy

If they make a perfect 1.4 lens (L, sealed, fast and accurate focus, IS, sharp all across, no fringe at 1.4) I think it would be a total winner. I don't think they would be able to make a fast focusing 1.2 with IS

I would rather no weather sealing or IS and 1.2 over both of those features and 1.4.
Canon is famous for its 1.2 primes!

I love large alertures as well, but the sacrifices in size, weight, limitations and price from 1.4 to 1.2 are too much for me.

However, I would really like Canon to go all in and release a new improved 50mm 1.0, along with a 50mm 1.4 IS for normal people
 
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GMCPhotographics said:
rfdesigner said:
aa_angus said:
The sigmas are notorious for falling apart.

really?

I've never read that before, googled and found nothing seriously negative.

I did find this: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1409860/0

Actually you should do a search on this very forum. I had a Sigma 12-24...which failed three times and had to go back to Sigma each time. Loose internal optics, failed AF motor and a failed aperture. It was the most fragile lens I've ever had and that was before I went pro. Then there is the notorious AF inconsistency issues across most of their lens portfolio and then there is the appalling finish that would literally fall off after 2 years of quite light use. I had a 70-200 f2.8, 180mm macro, 120-300 f2.8 OS and 24-70 f2.8. I had issues with them all. Yes...I'm done with Sigma.

hmmm definitely sub-optimal, I understood there is a difference between the "ART" line and the earlier ones.

Many years ago I had a sigma zoom with my old Praktica kit and it was pretty tough, but we are talking 20+ years ago.
 
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I hope and also think that Canon will not make a 85 1.4L because other third party companies are selling the 1.4. Why should Canon step backward to compete head on with others? I believe they will keep the current 85 1.2L II until their sale drop and update it wil another 85 1.2
 
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ntt2007 said:
I hope and also think that Canon will not make a 85 1.4L because other third party companies are selling the 1.4. Why should Canon step backward to compete head on with others? I believe they will keep the current 85 1.2L II until their sale drop and update it wil another 85 1.2

+1

Nikon are constrained by the throat of their lens mount. Due to that, f1.2 with AF has proved impossible so far. Zeiss, Sigma, Tamron etc make lenses for more than just Canon, so that same restrictive Nikon mount is a limiting factor for them.

Canon are the only manufacturer I'm aware of making lenses exclusively for the Canon mount, so why shouldn't they continue to make use of its advantages?
 
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I guess you didn't wait for the 35 L II like myself and others did. I have completely and utterly stopped waiting for any new Canon lens, just let it arrive when it does.

Think I waited at least a decade for the 35 L II, especially after the 24 L II came out.

Was it worth the wait; LOL, oh yes it was!
 
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With money getting tighter due to the rise in value of the yen, Canon is going to tighten its belt and start releasing fewer high end designs. Prime lenses are not huge sellers compared to zooms, but I do expect to see some new ones in the next 2-3 years, assuming that the sales of EF lens cameras hold.
 
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The 50mm story intrigues me.

So I imagine that Canon are working on the optical formulae for that focal length and would probably share design improvements between the two.

But will it be a 2 year wait between the mid range and L series versions, much like the wait between the f/4.0 and f/2.8 versions of the 16-35?

I can see a new 50mm f/4.0 outshining the current f/1.2 for a considerable period before Canon release the new L
 
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