New EF-M 85mm f/1.8 IS STM Coming? [CR1]

[Canon Rumors]

We’re told that a new EF-M 85mm f/1.8 IS STM is on the horizon, though we weren’t told when. As with all things lenses from Canon, it’s tough to nail that information down.</p>
<p>I’m not sure if an EF-M makes a lot of sense, perhaps an EF replacement for the EF 85mm f/1.8?</p>
<p>The only other EF-M lens we’ve heard about possibly coming is a new kit 18-55 IS STM.</p>

 

[ahsanford]

An EF-M or EF-S prime greater than 60mm? That will never happen. Canon wants prime buyers to move to FF.

Now an EF 85 f/1.8 update would be stellar. That lens is nearly 20 years old!

But STM would be a fail. USM or bust.

- A

 

[andrewflo]

I'd loooove this lens for my EOS M... but you're right, an EF mount makes way more sense given the age of the existing 85mm f/1.8

 

[HaroldC3]

An ef STM makes much more sense. No way would they invest in such a specialty lense for ef-m before releasing a 50mm prime.

 

[bholliman]

Yeah, this has to be an EF lens, an M lens of this length isn't logical given the lack of other M primes.

I too am hoping for an USM IS lens, but an STM might be in the works. I would buy an EF 85mm USM IS, not an STM.

 

[preppyak]

EF 85mm f/2 USM IS makes a lot of sense if they want to charge $500 for it and fit it in with their 24m, 35, etc updates to the non-L's.

EF-S 85mm f/1.8 STM makes a lot of sense if they are charging $199 for it to complete the 24/50 cheap STM pairing. And the EF-S could help keep it pancake-ish.

Something in between those options doesnt make a lot of sense.

 

[Zv]

Hard to tell what Canon will bring out. Did anyone predict an EF 50 1.8 STM? That lens works quite well on the M with the adaptor, makes me wonder if that was part of their plan. Can't see them announcing another 50 STM just for the M so soon when there is a good, new and cheap one already there. So, that leave the longer end and 85mm is due for a refresh. They could go with EF-M but EF makes more sense as it could be used by both M users and EF/S users. Make it cheap like the new 50 STM and you're onto an instant classic. Would they put IS in that though is the question? Or would they leave the IS for the (hopeful this will be a thing) 85mm f/2 IS USM?

I feel like there needs to be a cheap 85mm option for M users and rebel users. Once you get a taste for the primes via the gateway 50 STM naturally your attention turns to other primes and how to get that telephoto compressed look with nice bokeh. This rumored lens could be just that.

We already have the 24, 40 and 50 STM. 85 could be next.

 

[Solar Eagle]

Hard to tell what Canon will bring out. Did anyone predict an EF 50 1.8 STM?

Ummm, wasn't that an obvious one? I mean the 50 1.8 is the best selling lens Canon has.........

 

[Solar Eagle]

Looks at this. After their kit lens most people balance it all out with the 50 1.8..... Next up they reach out a bit with the 55-250...... Yet balance is where it's at, so the 50 1.4 is number three.... Now ready to invest a bit more they grab the 24-105 L...... But macro is missing, so we see the 100 2.8 macro in at number 5.... And the list goes on.

http://digital-photography-school.com/the-best-selling-dslr-lenses-according-to-what-our-readers-are-buying/

As usual the f1.8 50mm lens wins in the Canon range – a huge seller (see notes before). It’s a great quality lens and considering its price and how fast it is – it is almost a no brainer to have one in your camera bag.

1.Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II Camera Lens
2.Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4.0-5.6 IS Telephoto Zoom
3.Canon EF 50mm f1.4 USM Standard & Medium Telephoto Lens
4.Canon EF 24-105mm f/4 L IS USM Lens
5.Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro USM Lens

6.Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM Lens
7.Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM Standard Zoom Lens
8.Canon EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III Telephoto Zoom Lens
9.Canon EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Standard Zoom Lens
10.Canon EF 100-400mm
11.Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM Standard Zoom Lens
12.Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM Ultra Wide Angle Zoom Lens
13.Canon EF 20mm f/2.8 USM Wide Angle Lens
14.Canon EF 35mm f/1.4L USM Wide Angle Lens

 

[Haydn1971]

Oh you nay sayers !

Makes a lot of sense this, with the native 22mm, the recent 50mm f1.8 and now this, the 35mm, 80mm and 136mm FFE focal lengths are now covered for the EF-M line - make the EF-M 85mm into a small 11-22mm sized lens, add IS and use STM... Bingo !, another £300 lens to show investment in the range.

The EF 85mm will be replaced eventually, in the style of the 35mm IS, be higher priced, better performing, use USM and probably a next gen version of the hybrid IS in the style of the 100mm L Macro

 

[NorbR]

Well I'm all for more EF-M primes, but this would be a weird choice for the second prime in the lineup. EF-M 35mm or EF-M 50mm would make much more sense to me.

But if it does materialize as an EF-M lens, I'll still take a good look at it. With a bit of regret though, wishing the mounts had been switched between this hypothetical lens and the latest 50mm. For an EF-M 50mm f/1.8 STM and an EF 85mm f/1.8 IS STM, Canon would have both my pre-orders already.

 

[Maximilian]

Although I'd personally prefer an EF 85mm f/1.8 IS USM, I'd be delighted for the EOS M users to get an 85 IS.
And of course this leaves room for my dream above.

 

[Maximilian]

Hard to tell what Canon will bring out. Did anyone predict an EF 50 1.8 STM?

Ummm, wasn't that an obvious one? I mean the 50 1.8 is the best selling lens Canon has.........

It was obvious. The only discussion prior to the release was which one comes first: 50/1.8 or 50/1.4 successor.

 

[Woody]

I will pre-order the EF-M 35 f/1.4 STM the day it's announced.

85 f/1.8? Meh....

 

[Tinky]

in my opinion the longest prime the m system needs is a portrait lens... 85mm on 1.6x crop is into an old fashioned 135mm, too long for classic portraiture perspective, too short for sports, nature.

A 60-70mm would be great, along the pentax lines, so a compact pancake, or maybe even a collapsable?

the caneras drive and af is up to portraiture, folk wanting sports or nature are currently better served elsewhere.

Of course a revamped f1.8 85mm would be great in ef mount, so long as we are in the model of the 50mm f1.8 revamp - not vastly more expensive than the original... rather than the 28 & 35 is revamps.. very nice lenses, but double / triple the price of the originals.

I guess when I think of the m I can't help think of the old Minolta / Leica CL, or himatics... compact form, keep it simple.

A conventional 85mm would be a big lens for a pocket camera.

Again just my opinion, but the M and its systemic parts need to be 1. Unique 2. Compact 3. Affordable

The M is a great gateway to the EOS system for new users, and a great back up to exidting EOS users.. I don't see the logic, from a marketing perspective or user perspective of recreating the EOS system in minature...

Keep it compact. Keep it affordable. If folks need to specialise beyond this then let them adapt the EF system, something which no other mirrorless camera has access to, and which is an underused selling point.

Canon should be bundling an EF/ Ef-s converter inevery m box.

 

[Zv]

Hard to tell what Canon will bring out. Did anyone predict an EF 50 1.8 STM?

Ummm, wasn't that an obvious one? I mean the 50 1.8 is the best selling lens Canon has.........

It was obvious. The only discussion prior to the release was which one comes first: 50/1.8 or 50/1.4 successor.

We were expecting a 50 1.4 IS USM, we got a 50 1.8 STM with the same optical formula. That's what I meant.

 

[kiwi]

An EF-M 85mm would be nice but I guess not often used. I'd like to see some more EF-M lenses aimed at general walk-about focal lengths -- a 30mm or 35mm f1.4; a 16-50mm f2.8; a 18-135 (if they can be compact enough to not look silly)

 

[East Wind Photography]

Wouldn't make any business sense for Canon to do so. Particularly when the M3 is not available in the U.S. I would see it being plausible if it were a new kit lens and part of a new U.S. Offering for the M3... But not an 85mm.

 

[WorkonSunday]

85mm eqv would be nice, 85mm x 1.6 is abit too long for me :-[

F1.8 with IS i hope it wont be super bulky.

 

[mb66energy]

EF-M 85 can be very compact (60mm length should be feasible) if you use a tele configuration but: If you need an acceptable close focus range you rely on an extending front element.
But I have the 100mm Macro and 100mm 2.0 lenses and used on FF they will kill the EOS M in terms of ergonomy and IQ, just with the old 5D classic.

So it's not for me except I decide to build an EOS M stand-alone lens set. But that's not planned.

Like others said: EOS M with EF-M 22 and EF-M 11-22 is unbeatable in terms of (size + IQ), size and IQ in brackets because the COMBINATION is unbeatable. An EF-M 2.0 IS with good close focus (e.g. 1:3) would be a much better option FOR ME.