New EOS M Camera & Lens Make an Appearance
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Actually I am really curious what the specs for this one will be. If Canon are going to have multiple models (higher end and entry level) running it would show that they are starting to invest more in this line that will hopefully lead to a better enthusiast model. In the mean time, I still get good use out of my M3 and M2.
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Quite true, I know a lot of camera shooter who purchased slrs just because they are cheap and since both canon and nikon have two lens kit options in India they get that as it offered a better deal. this group of users have never changed from their kit lens and are terrified to remove the lens and they think it might actually break their camera.Don Haines said:
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neuroanatomist said:
1. I do like your proposed naming scheme for the next, "hi-end" EOS M model.
2. "We" is many gazillion potential customers globally, yes including the US. Feel free to start a poll here, how many of us would be interested to get an EOS M body higher specced than the M3 and fully competitive with any mirrorless APS-C camera offered by other vendors. Canon would definitely sell a really good number of those ... in addition to the one (1) I'd order. 8)
Provided they make it, it is really decent and sold at a reasonable price AT LAUNCH already - for once! Rather than waiting until they have to give it away at fire sales prices ...
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I think Canon isn't just going down market with the EOS M series, it's going in multiple directions. The new smaller EOS M (possibly a stripped down EOS M2) with 15-45mm lens is a new entry level model while leaving the current M3 in the middle. This leaves room for a higher end model with a possible duel-pixel sensor and built in EVF. Canon could very well be doing what Nikon did for the 1 series. Nikon has the S for the entry level, J for middle, and V for the high end. This new EOS M may very well be Canon's "S" version, and if priced right it may open up the EOS M system to many more customers 
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Mr_Canuck said:
I'm sure this new EOS M will be priced around $400. It'll probably be based on a stripped down EOS M2, which isn't a bad thing
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Tugela said:Canon have decided that mirrorless is not the future and thus their strategy to fight against it is to produce pure junk that no one in their right mind would want to buy!
That's just pure bullshit you're talking. Have patience.
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neuroanatomist said:
From what I observe, those Canon "Rebels" aren't really selling well any more. At least not in sophisticated European markets. Enthusiasts want better specs, casual shooters/happy snappers want camera gear even smaller/lighter than Rebel and EF-S -> =mirrorless. And that's what they are buying.
I have no doubt that DSLRs at "Rebel" level will globally be dead in the water a year or two from now. Nothing can save those puny tunnel-OVF mirror-flippers ...
Canon should kill both EOS Rebel and the entire Powershot G lineup and offer a meaningful EOS M system to those target groups. 3 bodies at 3 pricepoints sound good as a next step: "Baby M", M3 (-> M4), and higher end "M-AvTv-Pro" would make a lot of sense. Many purchasers would also be willing to buy the one or other (additional) EF-M lens, both from existing lineup and new ones. Anything from consumer zooms like 18-200, 16-85 to additional primes - anywhere between ultra-compact and cheap "pancakes" to somewhat higher end lenses [up to about where those Fuji XF lenses are positioned].
Canon would be rather stupid if they'd prefer to sell G7X and cheapo Rebel bodies with 18-55 kitzoom, when they could just as well be selling higher-margin EOS M bodies and EF-M lenses and hurt Fuji + Sony at the same time ...
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AvTvM said:
Even you must recognise this as hyperbole. Entry-level DSLRs are still the biggest-selling type of interchangeable lens camera, and that'll all evaporate in a year? Even two?
And since you've provided no evidence, I'll counter with anecdote: people approach me from time to time asking about getting a 'proper' camera. They always mean a basic DSLR. Often I think a mirrorless system would suit them better, but they are not interested. Partly the extra cost, and partly because MILCs are not perceived as 'proper' cameras by lay folk.
The tide may be turning, but it is slow. "Rebels" will be around for a long time yet.
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I think this M's target audience is obviously not for serious photographer discussing about camera spec on rumour forum... With compact camera being replaced by smartphone, these kind of camera moved down to the consumer market. I am not on this forum long enough to know if anybody trash the design of Canon's Powershot AXXXX back then.
With compact camera being replaced by smartphone, these kind of camera moved down to the consumer market. I am not on this forum long enough to know if anybody trash the design of Canon's Powershot AXXXX back then.
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specs now leaked
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://digicame-info.com/
As of specs for the next EOS M10.
- Sensor: 18MP APS-C CMOS
- Size: 108 x 66.6 x 35mm
- Weight: 301g
- Monitor: 3 inches 1.04 million dot
- Image processing engine: DIGIC6
- AF system: Hybrid CMOS AF III (facial recognition + tracking)
- Lens Kit: EOS M10 and 15-45mm IS STM
- Double Zoom Kit: EOS 10M and the EF-M 15-45mm IS STM & 55-200mm IS STM (price $ 849.99)
Price of the EF-M 15-45mm F3.5-6.3 IS STM is $ 299.99
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://digicame-info.com/
As of specs for the next EOS M10.
- Sensor: 18MP APS-C CMOS
- Size: 108 x 66.6 x 35mm
- Weight: 301g
- Monitor: 3 inches 1.04 million dot
- Image processing engine: DIGIC6
- AF system: Hybrid CMOS AF III (facial recognition + tracking)
- Lens Kit: EOS M10 and 15-45mm IS STM
- Double Zoom Kit: EOS 10M and the EF-M 15-45mm IS STM & 55-200mm IS STM (price $ 849.99)
Price of the EF-M 15-45mm F3.5-6.3 IS STM is $ 299.99
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No Dual Pixel AF. No thanks.
Canon has a belter of a technology, and they don't employ it in the one range that really needs it.
f6.3?
This is the EOS 1000n of it's day.
Canon has a belter of a technology, and they don't employ it in the one range that really needs it.
f6.3?
This is the EOS 1000n of it's day.
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neuroanatomist said:
My M2 is a bit smaller and a bit lighter than my M1.
My M2 focuses just a bit faster than my M1. Actually, sometimes more than a bit faster.
The M2's wifi and the iOS app to work with it are special.
Sometimes I laugh out loud (while groaning, if that makes any sense) at what I read on this forum about Canon's mirrorless efforts.
Different strokes for different folks (I guess).
I think I will sit out the M3 and wait for an M with dSLR focusing speed.
Until then, my Ms, with the 11-22mm wide-angle zoom, and 22mm pancake lenses...serve my needs quite nicely, thank you (in terms of people-oriented around-the-house and vacation photos). It is amazing how tiny they are...
Anything requiring telephoto focal lengths and precise focusing...and its back to the 5DM3...
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lw said:
At that price of 300$ there is no point in getting a P&S anymore. Plus need be one can easily use all the EF/EF-S lenses with their adaptor.
on a serious side note: I though canon had run out of those old 18MP sensors, but seems like I am wrong. ???
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300$ is the lens alone, no price given for the kit. But this definitely seems to be more a P&S replacement than a DSLR replacement.Chaitanya said:
Perhaps they have forgotten about a machine that was running producing those sensors and now they have a heap of them
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