New Kit Lens Coming With New Rebels [CR3]

[mrzero]

Even minor improvements to the 18-55mm kit lens will benefit millions of dSLR buyers, and if production costs are lowered that means more profit that Canon can potentially put into R&D for other, higher-end products.

Agreed. Anything that broadens the market for Canon DSLR buyers or benefits the user base is good for all of us.

 

[Sharlin]

They just really made the t6s and t6i and they wouldn't upgrade them so fast for no reason, so it's consistent with what's happening...

Those are already almost two years old, though. If anything, that's a reasonably long cycle when it comes to the "hundred-dee" series - starting from the 450D and up until the 700D Canon released a new Rebel every year!

 

[Don Haines]

Even minor improvements to the 18-55mm kit lens will benefit millions of dSLR buyers, and if production costs are lowered that means more profit that Canon can potentially put into R&D for other, higher-end products.

Agreed. Anything that broadens the market for Canon DSLR buyers or benefits the user base is good for all of us.

Agreed. They sell thousands of Rebels for every 1 series camera sold.... This is the product that keeps the lights on at the factory floor....

 

[rrcphoto]

Canon realizes the most of the sales loss bulk this year was the low-end Rebel models. Their financial report emphasises on that fact.

canon didn't lose any unit sales. not sure what you're smoking.

as a matter of fact:

Canon, through the launch of new products, has been working to stimulate latent demand for interchangeable-lens cameras. For the new DSLRs that were launched in the first half of this year, like the EOS 80D, which offers improved capacity to track fast-moving subjects, and the EOS Kiss X80 (EOS Rebel T6 in the Americas, EOS 1300D in Europe) with its enhanced ability to connect to networks, have been enjoying strong sales. In addition, the EOS 5D Mark IV, the core model incorporating a full-size sensor that was launched in September has been contributing to sales since its launch thanks to the well-balanced basic performance it offers in terms of still and video shooting


Nope not seeing it there either.

 

[rrcphoto]

They just really made the t6s and t6i and they wouldn't upgrade them so fast for no reason, so it's consistent with what's happening...

Those are already almost two years old, though. If anything, that's a reasonably long cycle when it comes to the "hundred-dee" series - starting from the 450D and up until the 700D Canon released a new Rebel every year!

Indeed. it was a bizarre statement when the rebels were always on a fast "new model" refresh before.

You'd think some people would fact check a little more.

 

[rrcphoto]

It’s definitely not as exciting as the upcoming EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM but Canon will be introducing a new EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM kit lens with the upcoming EOS Rebel cameras. This will be the first lens introduced in 2017.

hmm if I had a guess - I'd say a 18-55 that used the power zoom adapter and possibly the new nano USM.

actually I'm wondering if it will collapse .. that seems to be the thing, and Nikon now has a collapsible kit zoom.

I just looked thus up since until now I had never heard of it. Seems pretty silly. It's not like it collapses a whole lot.

no but if you are comparing kit cameras in a store, every little bit helps the perception that is it smaller.

 

[TeT]

Slap that smaller lens on a SL1 and it is significant

 

[AvTvM]

hoping for a very compact, collapsible design EF-S 16-55/3.5-5.6 STM IS zoom.

 

[mitchel2002]

hoping for a very compact, collapsible design EF-S 16-55/3.5-5.6 STM IS zoom.

highly unlikely that it will be 16mm at the wide end

 

[ahsanford]

It’s definitely not as exciting as the upcoming EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM but Canon will be introducing a new EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM kit lens with the upcoming EOS Rebel cameras. This will be the first lens introduced in 2017.

hmm if I had a guess - I'd say a 18-55 that used the power zoom adapter and possibly the new nano USM.

+1 on both points, but that's a 'premium kit' offering if I ever saw one. Such a lens might be a better kit call for an 80D or 7D2 than a Rebel.

I'd also throw in better IS. It's always improving generation over generation and every little bit helps for parents taking stills at a kid's piano recital, recording video, etc.

- A

 

[ahsanford]

I hope it will NOT be equipped with NanoUSM. The "focus by wire" technology with Initial focus reset is the worst thing ever can happen to a lens. :'( It's only good for videographers and the ones who use their cameras in full automatic mode only. For still and mainly for macro photographers it's a pain in the ass. :'( If, and ONLY IF, the new version of the lens would be equipped with RING TYPE USM motor that really supports Full Time Manual focusing I would update my old version of the lens with the new one. And no LCD display, please! I wan't the good old completely mechanical distance window!

I hear you. I understand.

But a FTM ring-USM lens for a Rebel kit zoom has zero chance of happening, IMHO.

- A

 

[ahsanford]

Just riffing on all the possible 'upgrades' they could float to a new kit Rebel lens...

• Nano USM and Power Zoom compatibility
• Make it nontrivially smaller, collapsible possibly
• Digital display on lens like the new 70-300 non-L
• Better IS
• Giving it a true 24mm FF equivalent wide end by switching to a 15-55mm design
• Abandon the filter threads and develop a fast as hell integral magnetic mount for CPL attachment
• Somehow fight in a solid macro functionality like the 24-70 f/4L IS ('solid' being defined as large max mag, not necessarily 'solid for serious macro work')

...and I only see the Nano USM and better IS being reasonable to happen given this class of lens. The rest seem like dreamland for such an inexpensive / mass produced product.

- A

 

[Loswr]

Just riffing on all the possible 'upgrades' they could float to a new kit Rebel lens...

• Nano USM and Power Zoom compatibility
• Make it nontrivially smaller, collapsible possibly
• Digital display on lens like the new 70-300 non-L
• Better IS
• Giving it a true 24mm FF equivalent wide end by switching to a 15-55mm design
• Abandon the filter threads and develop a fast as hell integral magnetic mount for CPL attachment
• Somehow fight in a solid macro functionality like the 24-70 f/4L IS ('solid' being defined as large max mag, not necessarily 'solid for serious macro work')

...and I only see the Nano USM and better IS being reasonable to happen given this class of lens. The rest seem like dreamland for such an inexpensive / mass produced product.

- A

Maybe they'll upgrade it to a 50mm prime with IS.

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

How about an EF-S 15-45mm?

Small like the EF-M... 8)

 

[AJ]

I was hoping for an update to the old EF-S 15-85/3.5-5.6 IS USM

 

[AvTvM]

How about an EF-S 15-45mm?

Small like the EF-M... 8)

small and shitty. The only EF-M lens so far that is a disgrace in terms of IQ.

 

[Maximilian]

esp. when Nikon can built the hotshoe about 10% smaller than Canon - at least in this comparison.
(width 4.3 vs. 4.6 cm, length 3.4 vs. 3.7 cm on my screen, when I zoom in)

PS.: but the Nikon kit lens still stays smaller. That's right.

...
no but if you are comparing kit cameras in a store, every little bit helps the perception that is it smaller.

 

[Josh Denver]

Really having used them all of these cameras are the same size for all purposes. = need a small bag. A 350D, 550D, D5100, 5500, SL1, all with their kit lenses make up pretty much the same overall size and physical feel, a smallish camera. Smaller than big cameras (7D5D) and bigger than P&Shoots and mirrorless. No idea what the quest for shaving millimeters here or there. We want a better camera not an imperciptiably smaller camera... So focus on that.

PS: instead of trying to achieve a smaller kit lens, keep the size and upgrade even one optical quality or IS.

 

[AvTvM]

Really having used them all of these cameras are the same size for all purposes. = need a small bag. A 350D, 550D, D5100, 5500, SL1, all with their kit lenses make up pretty much the same overall size and physical feel, a smallish camera. Smaller than big cameras (7D5D) and bigger than P&Shoots and mirrorless. No idea what the quest for shaving millimeters here or there. We want a better camera not an imperciptiably smaller camera... So focus on that.

PS: instead of trying to achieve a smaller kit lens, keep the size and upgrade even one optical quality or IS.

fully agree! a new, wider, constant aperture EF-S 16-50/4.0 STM IS kit zoom with decent IQ would be nice!

 

[Loswr]

PS: instead of trying to achieve a smaller kit lens, keep the size and upgrade even one optical quality or IS.

fully agree! a new, wider, constant aperture EF-S 16-50/4.0 STM IS kit zoom with decent IQ would be nice!

You 'fully agree' with keeping it the same size by suggesting an entry-level kit lens that would be larger and heavier...and more expensive. It's sad what passes for logic and business acumen in the AvTvM Universe.