New Tilt-Shifts in 2013? [CR1]

[Canon Rumors]

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<strong>New Tilt-Shift lenses in 2013?


</strong>The 45mm and 90mm tilt-shifts have been on the replacement cycle for a while now, probably since the day after the 17mm and latest 24mm tilt-shifts were announced a few years ago.</p>
<p>Apparently we’re going to see a new 45mm and 90mm tilt-shift announced in 2013. Both of the lenses will receive the “L” treatment and the updated movement mechanisms. I would like to see the lock knobs built a bit better, I found them to be unreliable in the rental world and they are quite an expensive repair.</p>
<p>Also coming in 2013?  A new “specialist lens”. I’m not completely sure what would be considered a specialist lens, although a new macro would probably fit the bill.</p>
<p>Source: [<a href="http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/Canon_new_lenses.html" target="_blank">NL</a>]</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

 

[Deeohuu]

I'll pre-order both the minute I can.

The 17 and 24 are my first choice for anything in their range and I see a lot of situations the 90 would be perfect but I can't bring myself to buy the current 90 after experiencing the convenience of the 17 and 24's independent movement.

 

[kirispupis]

My guess is if tilt-shift lenses are not considered "specialist", then they mean a new MP-E 65. A while back there was a new patent for one posted, so Canon at least has this in mind.

If Canon did release these lenses, I would immediately line up for the new MP-E 65. This is one of my favorite and most used lenses. I'm not sure what they would do to it though. Perhaps improve the resolution at 5x? The MP-E 65 certainly is the most versatile lens in this range out there, but it is not the sharpest. A Nikon 10x 10.5 WD on top of a 100mm macro will beat it in resolution. If they could somehow increase the magnification while still keeping a good resolution, that would be even better.

I have the TS-E 24 II, TS-E 17, and TS-E 90 and would only replace the TS-E 90 if they did something like increase the magnification to .5x like the Nikon. The TS-E 45 may be something I would look at replacing later. The current 45 isn't so great and I have considered picking up the Schneider 50 but it is a bit pricy.

Ideally though I would love it if they wait until 2014. I am still trying to save for a big telephoto and am a bit glad that Canon does not have any other lenses out right now that I want.

 

[Cannon Man]

Finally some good news! I was just talking about this to my photog friends 2 days ago.
I was taking a walk with my 50 1.2 and i was bummed almost every time i looked through the viewfinder that a new TS-E 45 is not out yet.

The new TS-E 24 3.5L II is one of my favorite lenses and i don't want to get the older make versions of the 45 and 90 now when they're 21yrs old!!

Hope to get CR3 about this within a year!

 

[paul13walnut5]

I had the mk1 24mm and was reasonably happy with it, the independant movements on the mark 2 made it an eminently more usable lens, especially as a lot of 24 users had done the home mod to realign the tilt and shift.

The 90mm seems to be more a product lens, and so not of interest to me personally, a new 45mm could be nice, although it would be a rental jobbie for me this time round.

 

[c.d.embrey]

The EF 90mm f/2.8 TS-E is the sharpest lens that Canon makes. Please, please, please don't DOWNGRADE it to a "L" lens. All the Red Ring will do is raise the price, it certainly won't improve the optics.

 

[Random Orbits]

The EF 90mm f/2.8 TS-E is the sharpest lens that Canon makes. Please, please, please don't DOWNGRADE it to a "L" lens. All the Red Ring will do is raise the price, it certainly won't improve the optics.

It would be nice to have that extra rotation between the tilt and shift elements like they have on the 17 and 24mm versions.

 

[dafrank]

CD Embry: +1. I agree about the sharpness of the 90 TS-E, one of my favorite Canon lenses. While the sharpness would be very hard to improve, they might make it focus closer, apply their more recent and better lens coatings plus the independent movements of both axes, as in the recent 24 and 17mm lenses.

The 90 TSE is almost perfect as it is, with the possible exceptions of the suggestions as listed above. But, they could really hit the mark by adding to the TSE line for product shooters, by making either a 135mm, 150mm, or 180mm TSE as well. This could be the other "specialist lens" mentioned. It would be perfect, especially the 135 or 150, for products that required some distance from the camera to make perspective look more normal, which the 90 barely does in some cases, not in others. To shoot a low front 7/8 view of a car, for instance, looks a heck of a lot more natural (i.e., the front end doesn't look quite as exaggerated in size compared to the rear) and just plain better, with a lens longer than 90mm. A longer TSE would complete the set for product and other types of photographers who would then have almost all the lenses with almost all the tilt and shift functions they needed to function as did their old 4x5" and 8x10" view camera set-ups in the film era - a great advantage for Canon over even medium format competition. Finally, if the much rumored studio-centered cam with very high megapixel capacity came out about the same time, that would further seal the deal for many commercial professionals who now are still somewhat married to the necessity to maintain various systems, jury-rigged together, to satisfy different types of shooting requirements.

Regards,
David

 

[Stephen Melvin]

I agree that the 90 is hardly in need of any optical improvements. I loved that lens, when I owned one.

What I'd like to see is another f/1.4 lens, wider than 24mm. A 20mm f/1.4 would be most welcome.

 

[Heidrun]

Maybe a t&s autofokus zoom lens

 

[briansquibb]

The EF 90mm f/2.8 TS-E is the sharpest lens that Canon makes. Please, please, please don't DOWNGRADE it to a "L" lens. All the Red Ring will do is raise the price, it certainly won't improve the optics.

I think you need to try a few more lens before coming to that conclusion

The TSE-24 for example or the 200 f/2 as well.

 

[TrumpetPower!]

After falling in love with the 24, I find myself wishing for movements on every lens. My only fear is that Canon will, indeed, release new lenses with movements, and that I will find myself unable to refrain from dropping a few more kilobucks on them....

Cheers,

b&

 

[ChrisC]

Kilobucks - that's for sure - lol

 

[Gcon]

A new 24-70mm f/2.8 II USM would be nice. I saw on this professional-looking rumour site: http://www.canon.com.au/Professional/Pro-Lenses/EF24-70mmf2-8L-II-USM that they might actually be releasing one!

 

[pwp]

The current 90mm TS-E would be very difficult to improve on. For products it is brilliant. No changes required thank you.

The 45 TS-E is a more likely candidate for the L treatment and $1000 price hike. The current lens is also an absolute cracker with little room for improvement. Apart from having the extra rotation between the tilt and shift elements as on the new 17 and 24 TS lenses it's damn near perfect. And the hack to modify the the 45 & 90 is a totally viable option.

The original 24 TS-E did need the upgrade and it was very very welcome. And the 17 opened up a whole new creative scope for architectural, landscape & industrial photographers.

PW

 

[pwp]

A new 24-70mm f/2.8 II USM would be nice. I saw on this professional-looking rumour site: http://www.canon.com.au/Professional/Pro-Lenses/EF24-70mmf2-8L-II-USM that they might actually be releasing one!

Nah! That's definitely a fake. A EF24-70mmf2-8L-II? In our lifetimes?
But seriously....bring it on!

PW

 

[kirillica]

Two remarks here:
- 24-70 II start shipping on September-October (at least, current statement says so)
- the sharpest Canon lens is 100L and I doubt TS-E 90 can beat that

and guys, as I'm looking for a new lens, can you please shortly describe (with photos as well) what you need TS lenses for? I can afford any of them, but I'm worried if I will ever use one...

 

[SandyP]

I owned the 90mm TS-E for a year (and will one day own it again)...


And I currently own the 45mm TS-E, which I quite like (and got it to replace the 90mm TS-E because the focal length of 45mm was more useful to me in many situations)....



I think both lenses are pretty darn amazing as it is. Yeah, they could have the improved movement range, but optically they're great already. I'd probably NOT upgrade to the L version of the 45mm, and would most likely go back for the non L version of the 90mm as well.

Two remarks here:
- 24-70 II start shipping on September-October (at least, current statement says so)
- the sharpest Canon lens is 100L and I doubt TS-E 90 can beat that

and guys, as I'm looking for a new lens, can you please shortly describe (with photos as well) what you need TS lenses for? I can afford any of them, but I'm worried if I will ever use one...

kirillica - sharpness is not ultimately that important of a factor when determining the "best" qualities of a lens. The 100L might be one of the sharpest Canon lenses, but so what? What about other functionality? Like contrast, color, focus speed, durability, CA, vignette, bokeh, aperture, IS? I can promise you THIS though, the 100L certainly cannot tilt, or shift .

If you don't know what you'd use this lens for, then I assure you, you don't need one.

I used mine for some product shots, but also mainly used it for unique perspectives and portraits. But traded it (the 90mm version) for the 45mm version so I could use it for more things like group shots and environmental portraits. But I still love the unique charm of the 90mm. And I'll get it again next year.

 

[kirillica]

Two remarks here:
- 24-70 II start shipping on September-October (at least, current statement says so)
- the sharpest Canon lens is 100L and I doubt TS-E 90 can beat that

and guys, as I'm looking for a new lens, can you please shortly describe (with photos as well) what you need TS lenses for? I can afford any of them, but I'm worried if I will ever use one...

kirillica - sharpness is not ultimately that important of a factor when determining the "best" qualities of a lens. The 100L might be one of the sharpest Canon lenses, but so what? What about other functionality? Like contrast, color, focus speed, durability, CA, vignette, bokeh, aperture, IS? I can promise you THIS though, the 100L certainly cannot tilt, or shift .

If you don't know what you'd use this lens for, then I assure you, you don't need one.

I used mine for some product shots, but also mainly used it for unique perspectives and portraits. But traded it (the 90mm version) for the 45mm version so I could use it for more things like group shots and environmental portraits. But I still love the unique charm of the 90mm. And I'll get it again next year.

trust me, 100L is excellent in case of focus, colors, CA, vignette and so on. and it's AF too

 

[briansquibb]

trust me, 100L is excellent in case of focus, colors, CA, vignette and so on. and it's AF too

There are lots of excellent lens equal to or greater than the 100L for use other than macro.

However in the way that the 100L is a specialist lens for macro then the Tilt Shifts are also specialist lens with capabilities that no other lens has. The top of the current heap for sharpness etc is probably the TSE-24 L II

The tilt-shift lens is very versatile, with a common use being :

shift - building
tilt - extending the DOF

Here is a recent one of mine (click on image for larger version)