Nikon D5 with 4K - Bring it on 1dx2

[preppyak]

Kind of blows my mind that Nikon can only deliver 4k for 3mins on the D5 when Sony solved it in a much smaller camera body and so did Panasonic. And when Canon solved it 4 years ago as well.

 

[dolina]

ISO 3m will be a waste of time

But at least it'll be a very short time.

ISO 3m is useful for photojournalist or paparazzi who can take photos of say Angelina Jolie kissing someone other than Brad Pitt.

The photo's image quality may be ignored by people on CR but a lot of news outlets would pay 10x the value of the D5 for exclusive rights to the image.

There's Angelina kissing Rob on a rooftop, do you see?

I do see a building the left.

Image quality aint the end all be all. Look at the sex tapes of Paris Hilton and Kim Kardasian. A bundle was made despite the amateur gear used.

 

[dolina]

Kind of blows my mind that Nikon can only deliver 4k for 3mins on the D5 when Sony solved it in a much smaller camera body and so did Panasonic. And when Canon solved it 4 years ago as well.

A limitation of licensing, technical or restriction imposed by the organizer of said events the D5 will be used at.

Timeline may be a reason as well assuming they're rushing development of the D5.

4K resolution video for more than 3 mins could be enabled by a simple firmware update in the future.

 

[Loswr]

Kind of blows my mind that Nikon can only deliver 4k for 3mins on the D5 when Sony solved it in a much smaller camera body and so did Panasonic. And when Canon solved it 4 years ago as well.

A limitation of licensing, technical or restriction imposed by the organizer of said events the D5 will be used at.

Timeline may be a reason as well assuming they're rushing development of the D5.

4K resolution video for more than 3 mins could be enabled by a simple firmware update in the future.

Or the problem is heat.

 

[Don Haines]

Kind of blows my mind that Nikon can only deliver 4k for 3mins on the D5 when Sony solved it in a much smaller camera body and so did Panasonic. And when Canon solved it 4 years ago as well.

A limitation of licensing, technical or restriction imposed by the organizer of said events the D5 will be used at.

Timeline may be a reason as well assuming they're rushing development of the D5.

4K resolution video for more than 3 mins could be enabled by a simple firmware update in the future.

Or the problem is heat.

agreed!

If the sensor is 2.25 times the area, then it probably creates 2.25 times the heat......

 

[dolina]

Kind of blows my mind that Nikon can only deliver 4k for 3mins on the D5 when Sony solved it in a much smaller camera body and so did Panasonic. And when Canon solved it 4 years ago as well.

A limitation of licensing, technical or restriction imposed by the organizer of said events the D5 will be used at.

Timeline may be a reason as well assuming they're rushing development of the D5.

4K resolution video for more than 3 mins could be enabled by a simple firmware update in the future.

Or the problem is heat.

Any which way we look at it the D5 is the baseline Canon should aspire to surpass.

 

[Jack Douglas]

http://nikonrumors.com/2016/01/08/nikon-d5-specifications-and-features-explained-confidential-nikon-internal-document.aspx/

This could be handy for those wishing to do a check-list type comparison to the 1DX II

Also quite interesting to read, the way questions are answered.

Jack

 

[Loswr]

Kind of blows my mind that Nikon can only deliver 4k for 3mins on the D5 when Sony solved it in a much smaller camera body and so did Panasonic. And when Canon solved it 4 years ago as well.

A limitation of licensing, technical or restriction imposed by the organizer of said events the D5 will be used at.

Timeline may be a reason as well assuming they're rushing development of the D5.

4K resolution video for more than 3 mins could be enabled by a simple firmware update in the future.

Or the problem is heat.

Any which way we look at it the D5 is the baseline Canon should aspire to surpass.

In the case of 4K recording, Canon surpassed the D5 four years ago with the 1D C.

 

[PureClassA]

Umm yeah. Let's be honest. The D5 so far doesn't seem like too hard of a threshold to leap beyond...

 

[dolina]

In the case of 4K recording, Canon surpassed the D5 four years ago with the 1D C.

At a price point of $12,000 in 2012. Price dropped to $8,000 in 2015.

D5 is $6,500 in 2016.

 

[expatinasia]

Umm yeah. Let's be honest. The D5 so far doesn't seem like too hard of a threshold to leap beyond...

Agreed, especially where video is concerned.

This thread links to a very interesting article on EOSHD about the Nikon D5 and its video capabilities. Shocking really:

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=28814

 

[Loswr]

In the case of 4K recording, Canon surpassed the D5 four years ago with the 1D C.

At a price point of $12,000 in 2012. Price dropped to $8,000 in 2015.

D5 is $6,500 in 2016.

The 1D C is a mere $500 more at this point. If I was planning to shoot 4K video on a top-shelf dSLR, that $500 would be more than worth it to overcome the D5's limit of capturing 3 min of 4K video.

 

[PureClassA]

Not only that, but the 1DC also has all the dedicated video features cinematographers prefer along with a native EF mount so they can use all the glass they own and prefer. The only reason guys like Metabones are in business are because everyone wants Canon glass on their Alpha 7s for video lol. I dont think they sell a lot of Nikon adapters.

In the case of 4K recording, Canon surpassed the D5 four years ago with the 1D C.

At a price point of $12,000 in 2012. Price dropped to $8,000 in 2015.

D5 is $6,500 in 2016.

The 1D C is a mere $500 more at this point. If I was planning to shoot 4K video on a top-shelf dSLR, that $500 would be more than worth it to overcome the D5's limit of capturing 3 min of 4K video.

 

[preppyak]

Kind of blows my mind that Nikon can only deliver 4k for 3mins on the D5 when Sony solved it in a much smaller camera body and so did Panasonic. And when Canon solved it 4 years ago as well.

A limitation of licensing, technical or restriction imposed by the organizer of said events the D5 will be used at.

Timeline may be a reason as well assuming they're rushing development of the D5.

4K resolution video for more than 3 mins could be enabled by a simple firmware update in the future.

Those reasons would seem to ring hollow once you read the EOSHD article. I cant honestly find a reason anyone would willingly shoot video on a Nikon D5. It does 4k, for 3mins, at a crop mode...despite every Sony model doing better, and despite a speedbooster making something like a GH4, (at 1/3rd the price), a far more practical option.

And if you are in the video world, instead of being limited by the flange distance of the Nikon F mount, you can go Panasonic or Sony and get every lens ever, and have amazing options for $100-200. And again, going off EOSHD, both Panasonic and Sony are offering a Log mode that Nikon doesnt have.

But, it makes sense for Nikon to do that, because the truth is nobody is shooting video with Nikon. Anyone who was switched to Sony long ago. And, with this release, those that were holding out hope will make the switch

 

[preppyak]

The only reason guys like Metabones are in business are because everyone wants Canon glass on their Alpha 7s for video lol.

This is definitely true. And as someone who will probably stick with Canon for the stills side of things, I'm going for the $99 Fotodiox adapters to work those lenses into the Sony/Panasonic video environments. Though Metabones makes nice enough adapters that they are worth the price.

Canon is probably smart to take the strategy that they have, which is that they can make money in the full-frame world without committing to video. But, that's gonna bite them 3-5 years down the line when everyone is making the compromise that I am now decides "hey, you know what, Sony and Sigma now have enough lenses that I can transition".

Or worse...people will realize Canon FD lenses are an incredible value on every camera that isnt Canon EOS. They basically build the perfect, cheap, lens line for Sony A7 cine work