Nikon officially announces the Nikon Z 9, and it’s a remarkable $5499

[LogicExtremist]

I’ve never heard anyone pronounce Nikon as Knee Conn, the name was derived from Nippon Kogaku, so it seems logical to me to pronounce it Nick On, while Nigh Conn seems very lah-dee-dah… I’ll take Zed as in Led Zeppelin too.

And what about So Knee? Or is it Sonnee?

At least with Canon there is only one way to say it!

But after a Laphroaig or three I might stretch to a Pain O Sonic…

Well, if you say it in a southern US accent, and pretend you're in a western movie, it would sound something like "thets uh mighty fahn Knee-con you've got thayure bhoay, but its naw match fahwar mah Sow-knee!"

 

[Deleted member 381342]

And what about So Knee? Or is it Sonnee?

In Scotland it is Son nay. English people likely pronounce it differently, their language is 'lighter'.

 

[Sporgon]

As Nikon has a single k following the i one would expect the pronunciation in English to be ‘nigh con’. As Nikkor lenses have a double k following the i it should be pronounced ‘nick or’, at least if it was an English word.

 

[Del Paso]

It's Nickonn Zedd nuff (in French)

 

[AlanF]

I’ve never heard anyone pronounce Nikon as Knee Conn, the name was derived from Nippon Kogaku, so it seems logical to me to pronounce it Nick On, while Nigh Conn seems very lah-dee-dah… I’ll take Zed as in Led Zeppelin too.

And what about So Knee? Or is it Sonnee?

At least with Canon there is only one way to say it!

But after a Laphroaig or three I might stretch to a Pain O Sonic…

Codebunny is more more correct. Knee con is the Japanese pronunciation; in the UK, we shorten the ee somewhat to be closer to nick on; and our transatlantic friends, who are even more linguistically challenged than us, say nigh con. Three Laphroaigs would give me real pleasure, and not pain, as it one of my favourites.

 

[entoman]

Codebunny is more more correct. Knee con is the Japanese pronunciation; in the UK, we shorten the ee somewhat to be closer to nick on; and our transatlantic friends, who are even more linguistically challenged than us, say nigh con. Three Laphroaigs would give me real pleasure, and not pain, as it one of my favourites.

As a Nikon executive once diplomatically stated “we don’t care whether you call us Nick On or Nigh Conn”, (just as long as you buy our cameras ).

 

[AlanF]

As a Nikon executive once diplomatically stated “we don’t care whether you call us Nick On or Nigh Conn”, (just as long as you buy our cameras ).

Sometimes it seems that it is all they care about.

 

[entoman]

Sometimes it seems that it is all they care about.

I don’t really agree with that, they do of course have to keep themselves in employment and satisfy the lust of their shareholders, but I’m sure that the various manufacturers take a great deal of genuine pride in producing high quality products and that they enjoy embracing new technology.

 

[Del Paso]

Codebunny is more more correct. Knee con is the Japanese pronunciation; in the UK, we shorten the ee somewhat to be closer to nick on; and our transatlantic friends, who are even more linguistically challenged than us, say nigh con. Three Laphroaigs would give me real pleasure, and not pain, as it one of my favourites.

What about three Ardbegs???

 

[AlanF]

I don’t really agree with that, they do of course have to keep themselves in employment and satisfy the lust of their shareholders, but I’m sure that the various manufacturers take a great deal of genuine pride in producing high quality products and that they enjoy embracing new technology.

I carefully qualified what I wrote with "sometimes". There are plenty of me-to or second-rate products on sale everywhere so buyer beware. Some companies specialise in them, others have some such lines in their portfolios. A few companies, like Zeiss in the old days, did try to produce the best in whatever they did. There is a law in economics that there is always someone who will try and make it cheaper and worse.

 

[Aussie shooter]

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I’ve never heard anyone pronounce Nikon as Knee Conn, the name was derived from Nippon Kogaku, so it seems logical to me to pronounce it Nick On, while Nigh Conn seems very lah-dee-dah… I’ll take Zed as in Led Zeppelin too.

And what about So Knee? Or is it Sonnee?

At least with Canon there is only one way to say it!

But after a Laphroaig or three I might stretch to a Pain O Sonic…

After a Laphroaig or three the next thing you should do is have another laphroaig. Or maybe just go all out and bump up to an Octomore.

 

[M. D. Vaden of Oregon]

The EOS R is basically that. I guess the form factor is slightly different, but it's the exact same sensor and they are cheap to acquire now. I took many great photos on it before trading it in for an R5.

The EOS R was good enough that I put my R5 money all into glass like the RF 85mm 1.2 L and one extra Zeiss lens. Right now, used EOS R can be found for $1200 to $1600. Best Canon body for the money.

About the Nikon Z9 .... there's a couple values for camera bodies. What does it cost now, and what can it be sold for in a year or two. Unless someone is 99% certain they will keep it for a long time.

 

[angelisland]

Really bold move going shutterless, it means Nikon has to be confident in its handling of rolling shutter and banding. And all of the previews say it's up to the task.

All preliminary reviews (dozens on YouTube) say rolling shutter and banding etc are thus far a non-issue with this camera...

 

[f119a]

I can't get over this price. It's a major selling point and I honestly believe this will be a point where many photographers take the opportunity to switch brands to Nikon - and they deserve it at this price point. That said, I have an R5 that is already more than capable of all my needs for a high resolution camera and when my R3 arrives, I will have my preferred sports camera back in my hands again...because after a year of shooting motorsports with a 45mp R5, I can tell you that I can't wait to go back down to something smaller resolution. Granted, I wish we were talking about a 30-35mp step town and not a 24mp step down.

I am curious if Nikon will offer a low resolution RAW file that Canon simply refuses to give us on the R5...then again they probably know I would be buying a second R5 right now and NOT an R3 if they did this. LOL

Well, no one in the industry offers low res RAW anymore at this point, which is probably caused by the evolution of image compression algorithms.
Nikon's new high efficiency "raw" is actually based on Jpeg XS, a standard aiming for "visually lossless compression" developed by intoPIX.

 

[neuroanatomist]

"visually lossless compression"

= lossy.

 

[f119a]

= lossy.

Yes. Even though they claim it's near-lossless at Nikon's compression rate.

 

[entoman]

Really bold move going shutterless, it means Nikon has to be confident in its handling of rolling shutter and banding. And all of the previews say it's up to the task.

I suspect that within about 3 years, all new high end MILCs will feature purely electronic shutters.

Mechanical shutters are DOOOOMED.

 

[Deleted member 381342]

I suspect that within about 3 years, all new high end MILCs will feature purely electronic shutters.

Mechanical shutters are DOOOOMED.

I think the mechanical shutter in the R3 is there purely for the more conservative users that aren’t trusting of the electronic shutter. Frankly not having a mechanical shutter is making me a wee bit nervous with the Z9 and that all the RAW is compressed. But in saying that, I am sure I’ll get better images from it than from my Z6 or at least as good and with so many shots over ISO 1000 to get high shutter speeds it’ll be irrelevant if it is 12bit or 14bit or 14bit lossless compressed for me. If I want more IQ I can shoot at ISO 64.

 

[entoman]

I think the mechanical shutter in the R3 is there purely for the more conservative users that aren’t trusting of the electronic shutter. Frankly not having a mechanical shutter is making me a wee bit nervous with the Z9 and that all the RAW is compressed. But in saying that, I am sure I’ll get better images from it than from my Z6 or at least as good and with so many shots over ISO 1000 to get high shutter speeds it’ll be irrelevant if it is 12bit or 14bit or 14bit lossless compressed for me. If I want more IQ I can shoot at ISO 64.

Yes, undoubtedly there will be some users who don’t want to be solely reliant on an electronic shutter, and that may have influenced Canon’s approach to the R3.

I’m sure there are some scenarios (e.g. fill in flash in bright sunlight) where even a very fast readout electronic shutter can’t sync fast enough, and there may be other scenarios that don’t immediately spring to mind.

My R5 doesn’t allow exposure bracketing with electronic shutter, it has a fixed (maximum) burst speed of 20fps, and it doesn’t have any means of producing a volume-controllable fake shutter sound. If those issues didn’t exist, I’d be absolutely happy to have an electronic-only shutter.

 

[Finn]

The faster Nikon brings the advancements of the Z9 (mainly the processor and AF) to their Z6 and Z7 the better off they will be. Biggest problem is they are beholden to Sony sensors and you know Sony cameras always get them exclusively 6 months in advance!