No New 50mm Lens Coming in 2017 [CR2]

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<p>We’re told that Canon is developing a new 50L and working with different apertures, but that no announcement of a new 50L should be expected in 2017. The Canon world is waiting impatiently for a new 50 f/1.4 or a new 50 f/1.2L, but it looks like we’ll be waiting a long while longer.</p>
<p>We haven’t nailed down when the EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM is going to be announced during the year, but we do wonder if the new lens will lead to a new 50mm f/1.2L and a new 135 f/2L IS?</p>
<p>One interesting bit of information we’ve heard about a new 50mm lens is that Canon is testing an f/1.0 design, which would be quite the followup to the original “classic”. We haven’t seen any patents for such optical formulas yet, but we may over the next year.</p>
<p>We’re expecting 4-5 lens to be announced by Canon next year, starting with the new EF-S 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 IS STM (woo!).</p>
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neuroanatomist said:
I can hear ahsanford wailing already. He probably won't stop until 2018...or later.
*gets popcorn and waits for ahsanford*

In all seriousness, this is a real bummer. The 50 updates are years later than a lot of people would have liked. Even more people are going to jump ship and try the sigma.
 
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I think this lens, more than any other, will be a struggle for the designers / management to agree on. At some point, and we may have reached it, if all you do is make perfectly clinical lenses, then the artistry will have been lost completely. I hope they decide to retain the nature that has made the 50L - the 50L - and only improve CA and give some critical sharpness @ F1.2 which isn't there like it is with the 85Lii. I do understand the rumoured 85Liii 1.4 IS because that has to be the monied portrait lens for 5DSR type megapixel cameras (I own a 5DSR and sold the 85Lii for the Tamron 85 1.8VC because of the VC), and the 35Lii is already amazingly sharp at F1.4 so the wedding 35/85 crowd will have what they need - but Canon should attempt to keep the 50L being more artistic and less clinical imo.
 
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A new fast 50mm-Lens will be expensive, especially when linked with Image-Stabilisation. So Canon has a pretty good 50mm-Lens. The new Nifty-Fifty is as sharp as you need for most purposes. But a 50L IS USM, which can make wide open full use of the of a 50MP-Sensor will be very expensive.
 
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wallstreetoneil said:
I think this lens, more than any other, will be a struggle for the designers / management to agree on. At some point, and we may have reached it, if all you do is make perfectly clinical lenses, then the artistry will have been lost completely. I hope they decide to retain the nature that has made the 50L - the 50L - and only improve CA and give some critical sharpness @ F1.2 which isn't there like it is with the 85Lii. I do understand the rumoured 85Liii 1.4 IS because that has to be the monied portrait lens for 5DSR type megapixel cameras (I own a 5DSR and sold the 85Lii for the Tamron 85 1.8VC because of the VC), and the 35Lii is already amazingly sharp at F1.4 so the wedding 35/85 crowd will have what they need - but Canon should attempt to keep the 50L being more artistic and less clinical imo.

That's the combo I'm moving to. The Tamron is a really underrated lens, and the new 35L II is Canon's best in a while.
 
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I'd be interested to see if Canon could pull of a sharp(or at least 50mm f/1.2 "sharp") 50mm f/1.0 that can be used more functionally than the previous one. That could be a unique lens for me as a photojournalist-- it would be great to capture images in almost pure darkness at f/1.0 and ISO 25,600 on my 1DX mark II. My only issue would be that it would have to have fast enough AF for some decent action(nothing fast, just enough to get people walking.) and not be priced too much. That would definitely go in my bag-- you could get shots in such low light levels that no one else was capable of getting.
 
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TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
wallstreetoneil said:
I think this lens, more than any other, will be a struggle for the designers / management to agree on. At some point, and we may have reached it, if all you do is make perfectly clinical lenses, then the artistry will have been lost completely. I hope they decide to retain the nature that has made the 50L - the 50L - and only improve CA and give some critical sharpness @ F1.2 which isn't there like it is with the 85Lii. I do understand the rumoured 85Liii 1.4 IS because that has to be the monied portrait lens for 5DSR type megapixel cameras (I own a 5DSR and sold the 85Lii for the Tamron 85 1.8VC because of the VC), and the 35Lii is already amazingly sharp at F1.4 so the wedding 35/85 crowd will have what they need - but Canon should attempt to keep the 50L being more artistic and less clinical imo.
That's the combo I'm moving to. The Tamron is a really underrated lens, and the new 35L II is Canon's best in a while.
35-90 an possible a 21 is the classic Leica "battlefield" combo. Imyself have a 28/85 MF set for the 1D2 and 22/50 for the "M" giving me those perspectives. With some UWA around mostly...
If think that the prefered option here would be a conservative and predictable 50/1.4.
 
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The Canon EF 85mm f1.2L II lens has been a stalwart for the company among fashion and portrait / wedding shooters but time as the say marches on.

The change occurred with the Zeiss 85mm f1.4 Otus lens a benchmark for optical quality, Nikon revamped their full frame offering with the Nikkor 85mm f1.4 G AF-S and more recently Sigma launched the 85mm f 1.4 Art lens again showing how the independent lens makers have stepped up the pressure with high end optics. The Tamron SP 85mm f1.8 VC is worth a mention but is nearly a stop slower, albeit again high quality.
Canon has to respond and knows it does particularly as the Sony G Master lenses including the FE 85mm f1.4 G Master are first & foremost targeting Canon users that shoot fashion & portrait / wedding and in some cases using Canon glass on Sony bodies (rumors here suggest a new EF 70-200mm f2.8L IS USM lens is also coming in 2017) and Sony is getting good reviews with these optics.

Why Canon is choosing to give the market yet another EF-S 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 IS STM lens is a mystery when the 85mm and 50mmL lenses both need an upgrade but they know their business better than I do. As regards to "too much" sharpness you can break a lens down with filters or in post but you cannot make a bad lens great and Canon can improve CAs in both these lenses without compromising the smooth out of focus transition. If you pay £££ / $$$ on 5DS / 5DSr / 5D MKIV or 1D X MKII you want the best optics to match and Canon is going to deliver incremental improvements.
 
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