jrista said:Then, I just hit the AF mode button (the one on the back, which you press first, before pressing M-Fn to actually switch modes)
Just as is written in the manual, so nothing faulty with your 5D3
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jrista said:Then, I just hit the AF mode button (the one on the back, which you press first, before pressing M-Fn to actually switch modes)
You should play with the AF customization. This may be of interest: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/9174241280/configuring-your-5d-mark-iii-af-for-fast-actionjrista said:Eldar said:A tip worth trying is to toggle through the AF modes and try again when you get to the all-points mode. A couple of times and don´t ask me how it happens, I have seen what you describe. But for me it has been sufficient to toggle through the modes and try again.jrista said:neuroanatomist said:jrista said:I honestly do not believe any Canon or Nikon system currently has anything like flexible spot. I know there are the zone and all points modes, but when you pick a single AF point, as far as I know (and maybe the 1D X is different), only that one point will be used, regardless.
I think you are mistaken. Just to make sure we're on the same page here regarding the 5DIII (that page is p.77 from the 5DIII manual), with 61-pt auto selection in AI Servo, you manually select any single AF (1), and the AF system will track the subject across the array of AF points, switching points (2).
So again, can you please explain what is different about the Sony system?
Well, maybe it's just something up with my 5D III. It's currently in my hands. I'm looking at the top LCD, and it says "AI SERVO". When I look through the viewfinder, I see the AF display for One-Shot AF. I don't see any AF points displayed...I only see the brackets. If I move the joystick around, no AF point shows up or is selected. If I activate AF...THEN I see AF points.
So, your telling me that my 5D III isn't behaving properly....that sucks. :\ I guess I need to figure out what's wrong, because I haven't been using the all points mode because it doesn't always initially lock onto my subject properly, and I often miss shots. On the other hand, using single point selection mode is a PITA for BIF.
I reset the camera, and tried that, and it still did not work. Then, I just hit the AF mode button (the one on the back, which you press first, before pressing M-Fn to actually switch modes), and moved the joystick. That worked. So, in most AF modes, you can just move the joystick, and the selected AF point moves. But in all points mode, you have to first hit mode, then use the joystick to move the AF point? Seems very tedious...
But, it does seem to work...mostly. It does initially lock onto the subject under my selected point...but it jumps a lot. As I track, it doesn't seem to really STICK to the originally selected subject...which is kind of annoying. I am not using my 600mm lens, though, so maybe it will work better on that.
jrista said:Eldar said:A tip worth trying is to toggle through the AF modes and try again when you get to the all-points mode. A couple of times and don´t ask me how it happens, I have seen what you describe. But for me it has been sufficient to toggle through the modes and try again.jrista said:neuroanatomist said:jrista said:I honestly do not believe any Canon or Nikon system currently has anything like flexible spot. I know there are the zone and all points modes, but when you pick a single AF point, as far as I know (and maybe the 1D X is different), only that one point will be used, regardless.
I think you are mistaken. Just to make sure we're on the same page here regarding the 5DIII (that page is p.77 from the 5DIII manual), with 61-pt auto selection in AI Servo, you manually select any single AF (1), and the AF system will track the subject across the array of AF points, switching points (2).
So again, can you please explain what is different about the Sony system?
Well, maybe it's just something up with my 5D III. It's currently in my hands. I'm looking at the top LCD, and it says "AI SERVO". When I look through the viewfinder, I see the AF display for One-Shot AF. I don't see any AF points displayed...I only see the brackets. If I move the joystick around, no AF point shows up or is selected. If I activate AF...THEN I see AF points.
So, your telling me that my 5D III isn't behaving properly....that sucks. :\ I guess I need to figure out what's wrong, because I haven't been using the all points mode because it doesn't always initially lock onto my subject properly, and I often miss shots. On the other hand, using single point selection mode is a PITA for BIF.
I reset the camera, and tried that, and it still did not work. Then, I just hit the AF mode button (the one on the back, which you press first, before pressing M-Fn to actually switch modes), and moved the joystick. That worked. So, in most AF modes, you can just move the joystick, and the selected AF point moves. But in all points mode, you have to first hit mode, then use the joystick to move the AF point? Seems very tedious...
But, it does seem to work...mostly. It does initially lock onto the subject under my selected point...but it jumps a lot. As I track, it doesn't seem to really STICK to the originally selected subject...which is kind of annoying. I am not using my 600mm lens, though, so maybe it will work better on that.
Lee Jay said:paumm2006 said:Totally agree. I understand being disappointed about the rumors, as it seemed as if were the same, but now that the information is out there... ??? I guess some people like to ignore the facts and continue arguing their case.
People are complaining that it probably isn't different enough. They want on-sensor A-to-D and dramatically (factor of 4-8 or so) reduced low-ISO read noise which would provide up to 2-3 stops more base ISO dynamic range.
Personally, I don't care that much about low ISO DR, but reduced noise from any source is always a good thing.
It's likely that this sensor has similar base ISO DR to all previous Canon sensors. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I think that's unlikely.
But that is how it works. Half press the shutter button, the focus point appears, use the joystick to move it where you want it. Next time you hit the shutter button, the point will reappear on the new spot you moved it to.jrista said:I'm glad the feature does work...but it's annoying that it doesn't work like the other modes. In all the other modes I just have to use the joystick and it moves the AF point. In this mode, I first have to hit the AF mode button, then choose the point. I'm so deeply ingrained in the patterns I used with the 7D and the other AF modes on the 5D III...just tapping the joystick to move the point (which is probably why I didn't think you could select a point in all points mode...it works differently!! GRRR.) I can normally change my selected point in the middle of tracking a bird in flight...but this extra button push...really messes things up.
daniela said:Do you know, how much does it cost in Europe / Germany?
I could not find an price for European countries. I do not think that the >2000€ mentioned on British pages are the price for the rest of Europe.
ericski said:Is "EV -3 AF" another way of saying lenses can auto focus at f/8? E.g. will I be able to use auto focus with my 100-400 and 1.4x extender?
peederj said:Maybe Canon are transitioning to medium format to gain a generational advantage and force us all to buy new glass. The FF135 and APS-C cams will be for sports/wildlife people and emphasize AF and HFR like this 7D2 does. Portrait and landscape will move to larger sensors. I'm not against that in principle, though repurchasing glass will hurt. But getting us to do that is the best way for Canon to make money and I don't deny them the right to make money.
jrista said:Khalai said:jrista said:neuroanatomist said:jrista said:I honestly do not believe any Canon or Nikon system currently has anything like flexible spot. I know there are the zone and all points modes, but when you pick a single AF point, as far as I know (and maybe the 1D X is different), only that one point will be used, regardless.
I think you are mistaken. Just to make sure we're on the same page here regarding the 5DIII (that page is p.77 from the 5DIII manual), with 61-pt auto selection in AI Servo, you manually select any single AF (1), and the AF system will track the subject across the array of AF points, switching points (2).
So again, can you please explain what is different about the Sony system?
Well, maybe it's just something up with my 5D III. It's currently in my hands. I'm looking at the top LCD, and it says "AI SERVO". When I look through the viewfinder, I see the AF display for One-Shot AF. I don't see any AF points displayed...I only see the brackets. If I move the joystick around, no AF point shows up or is selected. If I activate AF...THEN I see AF points.
Manual, p. 74:
With 61-point automatic selection AF, you can set the starting AF point for AI Servo AF
Right. It doesn't seem to work on my particular 5D III.![]()
Orangutan said:Quest for Light said:a better sensor does not care what you shoot.Orangutan said:We already know the Sonikon sensors are better at low ISO.
Yes, actually it does matter. The measurable advantages of Sonikon sensors disappear around ISO800-1600, and Canon sensors take a slight lead after that. Sports are typically shot at higher ISOs.
paumm2006 said:While some people are complaining as you describe, other continue saying "How could they put the same sensor?", which is kind of pathetic. However, lets forget those people and focus on the possibilities of the all-new 7D MKII sensor!! ;D
Check how you have set it up. On the last of the AF menus you have numerous options on what you would like to see. With Camera powered on, I can see the position of the chosen focus point in the viewfinder, but I can´t move it until I have hit the shutter button or the AF or AF mode buttons at the back, which is the same with all the other modes.jrista said:The selected point appears when I activate AF (I use rear-button AF). However, I cannot move it until I first hit the AF mode selection button...then that frees the AF point to be moved somewhere else with the joystick. In other modes, I just have to activate AF, then I can move the selected point with the joystick without the intermediate requirement of pressing AF mode first.