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PocketWizard FlexTT5 and 580exII RF Issues?

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justsomedude

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Does anyone here have experience with PWs FlexTT5 and the 580exII? I'm looking at moving into remote ETTL, but have seen some reviews where range was severely limited due to high RF interference from the 580.

Granted, I'd probably eventually get the AC7 RF hard-shields, just because that horizontal mount configuration is awesome for umbrellas, but I'd still like to hear some real world experiences. Thanks!
 
I have gone with this setup using two 580 EEII's. I found that the system may occasionally fail to fire and that distance is compromised without the hard case. The hard case solved the issues, and as you point out, it is good for the direct line aiming at the center of an umbrella.The soft sleeve that comes with the units is a hassle. I highly recommend the case for the RF issue-too bad we have to pay for it.
 
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I continue to ba amazed at how they could put it on the market when it had a range of 40 ft with Canon's top of the line Flash. They must have known this. Then, there was one fix after another, shields, modifying the flash to add capacitors, then flashes failing. That shield will insulate a flash, and heat dissapation is a problem without it, if you use a flash really hard, its life will drastically diminish due to overheating, and this makes it even worse.

They continue to make excuses that they had no choice about RF frequency, while other manufacturers use other frequencies and have units that work well.

Those shields should have been a temporary fix while they redesigned the unit, but they continue to supply klutzy shields.

Also, do not expect it to work with any new flash that Canon releases. It might, but then again, it might not.

I have stayed far away from them.
 
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If anyone wants a good cheap reliable option that doesnt do TTL I got a brand off ebay called D-SLRkit they were about $40 for 4 recievers and a hotshoe trigger, I use them when i want to combine my elinchrom strobes with the 580s they are reliable and work well they even have built in umbrella holders. much cheaper than buying elinchrom recievers to fire the 580s
 
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I think the confusion is that it was supposed to be stated 30% cheaper, not 1/3rd the price.

Then again with all my Pocket Wizard gear, I have never paid full price. The Mini TT1 and Flex TT5 I paid on sale $160 and $185 respectively. I just added in two Pocket Wizard Plus IIs for $130. That is total, not a piece.

My current outlay is MiniTT1, FlexTT5 and 4 Pocket Wizard Plus IIs for about $750

There is something to be said for availability, whether it is on the used market, borrowing from a fellow photographer, or tracking down when traveling. Something tells me I am more likely to find a Pocket Wizard than an Odin.
 
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I have the 580EXII on the camera and all the off camera speedlights are 580EX (OK - I prefer them). Not had any problems yet, although I dont use them at their range limit - perhaps only 50ft.
 
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sneekerp said:
Viggo said:
Pleeeaaassse don't!!!

I will shorten your life with ten years trying to get them to work.

Buy the Phottix Odin at a third of the cost, more functions and best of all, they just work.
Where are you finding the Odin for 1/3 of the PW's?

The PW's costs 2500 nok's a piece here in Norway, making it 7500 nok's plus the AC3 controller at 900 nok's, total of 8400 nok's = 1401 usd with this minutes rate. And I got the Odin from Dzone2 seller off of ebay for 549 usd... Free shipping also.

On a side note, I tested the ETTL range with the Odin today , 200 meters and it all worked perfect!! I didn't have more space to put between me and the flash, but I'm very sure it will work for longer than that... THE perfect system....
 
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The Phottix Odin sounds great....the pocketwizards sound like an expensive hassle.

I've been using an ST-E2 transmitter for about 4 years now, 90% of the time it's been good, the only real problems have been in really strong light outside and when there is no line of sight. I got some cheap Phottix radio transmitters (can't remember the full name as I don't have them on me now) for when I don't have line of sight, they only work manually up to about 40m, but they work fine. It's a pain not having ETTL sometimes, so the Odin sounds like a good investment as my ST-E2 is on it's last legs.
 
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Shooting TTL, while undeniably convenient, is analagous to shooting with auto white balance. Most of the times the camera will make a pretty good decision, but there are times when it won't ... and potentially worse, sometimes where it will, and sometimes where it won't (some overexposed, some underexposed), meaning simple batch processing of all photos is impossible, and each photo may have to be post-processed individually.

For fast-paced shooting, I use a 580EXII either on camera or handheld with an off camera shoe cord. Though I am sure the vast majority of the cheaper flashes are safe, in general, I feel slightly more comfortable with a genuine Canon flash attached physically (either hotshoe, or off camera cord) to my camera.

For shots where one has the time to set the shot up e.g. on set, multiple lights etc., I use cheap manual flashes & cheap RF radio triggers. Helps keep the cost down, and results are usually more consistent when using manually set flashes. Not necessarily perfectly exposed, but when not, it's more likely that batch processing will be a possibility. I have 2 genuine Canon flashes (for my 2 Canon bodies), and 4 cheap manual flashes, and 2 cheap RF master radio triggers (1 spare, or for use on 2nd body when using a dual body setup), and 4 cheap RF slave triggers for triggering them. When you want/need multiple flash heads & RF triggers, especially when you are shooting for fun as a hobby, not for pay, as I am, using cheaper manual flashes & RF triggers can mean substantial savings (or a more expansive setup for the same money). Having a different system from someone else can be an advantage, since they may use different frequencies, thereby resulting in less interference / accidental triggering if there are other photographers in the area. However, it can also be a disadvantage if something breaks or is left behind, and you can't lend to / borrow from others.
 
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kennykodak said:
briansquibb said:
kennykodak said:
i have PW mini and flex's
junk
i have multiple 580 EX2's
more junk
they only work for me when they can see each other,
what's the point?

Operator
even more junk


i do this for a living, do you?

I have no problem reading the manual and getting it working with 4 slaves.

Line of sight is the native Canon approach, Pocketwizzard is radio and doesn't need line of sight.

Just getting paid for something doesn't imply you are good.
 
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