POLL: The 2nd ff camera in 2014 will be...
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Ruined said:
... the difference to back then simply is that there is now fierce ff competition, unlike 5d1/5d2 times, so no matter how the af system rates in *absolute* terms it is so mediocre it *could* get a little refresh w/o endangering the 5d3.
A d600->d610-like 6d update with a full-cross center point and dual_pixel af would still stay way below the 5d3, but as a 6d owner I admit I don't want my investment protected a bit and don't want to see Canon go the Nikon way.
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Neither ... the poll should have i ncluded the option "None of the above"
The reason, I feel that it won't be either of those cameras:
1. 5D MK III sells extremely well and will continue to do so in 2014.
2. 6D did not have dirty/oily sensor like Nikon D600 and will easily sell more than D600, D610, a7 & a7r combined
The reason, I feel that it won't be either of those cameras:
1. 5D MK III sells extremely well and will continue to do so in 2014.
2. 6D did not have dirty/oily sensor like Nikon D600 and will easily sell more than D600, D610, a7 & a7r combined
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Dylan777 said:
The [CR1] says so, the "2 new ff in 2014" is just the occasion to do the poll...
Rienzphotoz said:
Umyes, sorry, you're correct - actually the succession order is the interesting thing, not if anything is actually released or announced December 31, 2014 or Jan 1, 2015. I amended the poll to make clear your vote is mainly about what comes first, that's why I didn't include a "neither" option.
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I see ... but I still think that with "None of the above" option, you most likely will get a better idea of what people think. CheersMarsu42 said:
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Rienzphotoz said:
Ok, I'll try to think harder next time when choosing poll options
but I cannot change the poll that way now as it would invalidate the older votes.Btw one reason for 5d4 before 6d I forgot to mention is that imho the 6d is designed to be produced very cheap, low specs (only 1/4000s shutter, low shutter duration, plastic'ish body) and old 5d2 parts... so knowing Canon they'll just go on selling it while they make a healthy profit and until no one buys it anymore.
The 5d3 on the other hand is one of their flagship products and they probably want to keep up or be better in tech comparisons vs. the Nikon/Sony competition, even if this means an even more expensive 5d4 than the 5d3 was ($3500, shudder). RGB metering anyone?
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I would think a 6D2 make sense. It had low competition from the Dusty Nikon D600.
Now Nikon has a removed the dust and launched the D610, the life of the 6D may be less quiet. ???
I would not be surprised canon releasing a 6D2 with a few details changes (like Rebel 600D to 650D) to please the early adopters of this “consumer” FF. They have done it a lot in the past.
A new screen (maybe touch one), a slightly improved AF and some Digic improvement and, Bingo!
You have a clear winner to beat the D610 and Sony’s friends.
Now Nikon has a removed the dust and launched the D610, the life of the 6D may be less quiet. ???
I would not be surprised canon releasing a 6D2 with a few details changes (like Rebel 600D to 650D) to please the early adopters of this “consumer” FF. They have done it a lot in the past.
A new screen (maybe touch one), a slightly improved AF and some Digic improvement and, Bingo!
You have a clear winner to beat the D610 and Sony’s friends.
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+1tomscott said:
but I would have preferred to have an in built intervalometer function in the 5D MK III
A bit harsh ... I don't think it is stupidtomscott said:
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Rienzphotoz said:
Magic Lantern has it.
Rienzphotoz said:
I guess what our esteemed fellow CR member probably wanted to say in his very own way would be that a replacement is stupid, not the thread about a rumor saying so.
And not to put too much a fine point on it, I'd say pecunia non olet as model policy is not driven by what makes sense, but what sells for what profit.
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Yes, but it is still in Alpha stage and one has to re-run the firmware update after every time the camera is powered off. Also, I recently installed the Alpha firmware for EOS-M and whenever I try to shoot RAW footage using the Magic Lantern intervalamoter function, I get several corrupted RAW files ... but it works fine with JPG ... so, at the moment I am not comfortable installing Magic Lantern on my main camera ... for this reason I was looking to get a used or refurbished 60D to do time lapse during my December vacation to Australia ... that brings me to the question: do you know any CR members who are Australian? coz I started this thread asking for advice http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=18339.msg341290#newMarsu42 said:
Are you sure ;DMarsu42 said:
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Yes, I am aware of that ... in fact I am going to buy one from B&H for $42 (its the Vello version) ... bu it would have been nicer to have in-camera for these reasons:StudentOfLight said:
1. Don't have to carry another additional accessory to carry
2. Don't have to worry about carrying another battery or two to make sure the accessory is working
3. It may not seem like a big deal to carry a small remote, (the Vello version is taller than the camera) but when you are already carrying lots of "small" accessories (especially during vacations), one more small thing just adds to the problem of forgetting to carry it or worse yet, losing it on the field ... having an in-camera intervelometer eliminates that problem. Basically in one word: awesome convenience .... ok that's 2 words.
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Rienzphotoz said:
Please be sure to report this bug to the ml forum, right? https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/new
I understand you don't want to use ml on 5d3 right now, let alone in a production camera (though you can deactivate ml anytime by pressing SET when starting the camera)... I just couldn't live with the broken auto-iso with flash, so I use it on my 6D no matter the early stage.
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Marsu42 said:
Exactly; that's why the 5D IV will be a very tightly guarded secret. There certainly won't be any 'announcements' regarding this untill it's about to bs launched, otherwise sales of the current - and very current at that - model would suffer.
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Rienzphotoz said:
Since I bought my 5D3 last year, the yen has fallen 25% against the US dollar. That means that Canon effectively has an additional 25% headroom available to make changes to a model before they have to increase the price.
Or more likely, they can allow a 15% cost increase to improve the next model, and then have a larger percentage profit margin on it. Win-Win.
Which makes an upgrade quite likely, if their facilities can handle it (didn't they have some problems after the tsunami?).
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The probability of a 5D MK III replacement is really slim.
I mean, based upon what we've seen in the previous years, it is just unlikely or impossible.
It took more time to replace the 60D with the 70D, the CR1 rating is appropriate here.
A high MP camera probably. But something else?... Nhaaaaa
I mean, based upon what we've seen in the previous years, it is just unlikely or impossible.
It took more time to replace the 60D with the 70D, the CR1 rating is appropriate here.
A high MP camera probably. But something else?... Nhaaaaa
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