POLL: What's more important, gps or wifi?

If you'd have to chose, you'd have a camera with...


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Maximilian said:
I shoot photo! And although these gimmicks might be quite useful for a lot of people in some to many occasions they're not for me.

Give me best IQ, AF and other photo related functions for my money and a camera that isn't sucking out life of the battery with such things. I know others think different but that's me.

Well stated. With you 100% 8)
 
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AcutancePhotography said:
Would they not do just what you did? Take several pictures without moving the camera and if the GPS tags show 2-3 miles difference; there's the evidence of a problem.

Good thinking there, in the back of my mind I never think of digital data as "proof", but of course just an indication to support the description could be enough. I hope we hear if it was enough for Canon as gps receivers of this type are inherently dodgy given sub-optimal receiving circumstances.

The reason for my general critical attitude in these cases is one support case of mine, the local Canon service told me that they have to be able to reproduce the problem (themselves), just me saying it occurs from time to time isn't enough for a warranty replacement of parts.
 
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AcutancePhotography said:
hsbn said:
I stood at one place, took about 20 photos, and they got tagged all over the place within 2-3 miles of each other.

Yikes, that stynks. Did you get the GPS checked out by Canon? Sumptin ain't right.
My warranty is up. So I just drag those images when i'm at home on Lightroom map module. At least, there is GPS let me know where to start and using Google Map, I can drag them to the correct location. Still it's annoying.
 
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Potential uses of wifi (that I can think of; there are probably more):
1) Put your SLR on a sturdy pole and take above-crowd pictures using the EOS app to see what you're looking at and focusing on (I imagine there are other solutions, but I suspect they are expensive).

2) Set up a remote wildlife photography station in your back yard or even the middle of nowhere (as long as the wifi function is like that of a Go Pro and lets you set up an ad-hoc network). You could even build a remote-controlled vehicle to take pictures of skittish/dangerous subjects (e.g. rattlesnakes, various birds) and you could change the framing and focusing from afar!

3) Remote time-lapse (if time intervalometer settings were available and changeable)

Potential uses of GPS
1) Identify exact location so that duplicate framing could be achieved later for a before-after/seasonal thing (would actually be pretty cool).

2) Showing other people where you took they picture so that they can take a crack at it.

Given this (admittedly limited) list, I would go with wifi hands down. GPS provides context (which can be valuable creatively), but wifi (if implemented correctly) could open up entirely new avenues for creative photography!
 
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insidiator said:
2) Set up a remote wildlife photography station in your back yard or even the middle of nowhere (as long as the wifi function is like that of a Go Pro and lets you set up an ad-hoc network).

I'd really like to see examples of the results of this, if you've got any please do open a thread in the pictures section! One problem is wifi battery power, so a battery grip is in order or you could lug a car battery around an try to build a power converter for the dslr(?). But the main problem is...

insidiator said:
You could even build a remote-controlled vehicle to take pictures of skittish/dangerous subjects (e.g. rattlesnakes, various birds) and you could change the framing and focusing from afar!

... is the only way I can imagine you can get reasonable results, w/o re-framing you have pre-set the scene and this only allows for "squirrel feeding on nuts I've put there myself" scenes.

At some point when I get hold of a smartphone with eos remote, I'll probably try to shoot lizards lying in the sun in the same spot again and again, but my imagination ends right there. Unless it's a dangerous/deadly animal (and we don't have them where I live, lucky me) it's much easier to simply slowly crawl up to the animal.

Edit: I've just requested remote wildlife wifi shots here, please post if you've got some...
http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=22956
 
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Although I, personally, consider GPS a more important feature than Wi-fi, I can certainly see the usefulness of both. Which has caused my old brain to start wondering why nobody has reverse engineered the WFT-E7A and produced a cheaper model. There are off-brand battery grips, selling for a fraction of the cost of a Canon. Surely it wouldn't be too difficult to manufacture a wi-fi unit which sold in the $300.00 range....or perhaps it is too difficult which is why I'm never heard of one.
 
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Old Sarge said:
Which has caused my old brain to start wondering why nobody has reverse engineered the WFT-E7A and produced a cheaper model. There are off-brand battery grips, selling for a fraction of the cost of a Canon. Surely it wouldn't be too difficult to manufacture a wi-fi unit which sold in the $300.00 range....or perhaps it is too difficult which is why I'm never heard of one.

I assume the latter - look at the disastrous performance of Yn's rt flash transmitter clone which obviously made them delay their whole line of announced rt flashes.

It's true that wifi is standardized and it should be easier to implement, but sub-par radio performance is annoying and will make a lot of people buy the more expensive, but working model. With battery grips it doesn't matter as much for non-critical shooting if you can buy 3x-4x clones for the price of 1x original.
 
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Marsu42 said:
Old Sarge said:
Which has caused my old brain to start wondering why nobody has reverse engineered the WFT-E7A and produced a cheaper model. There are off-brand battery grips, selling for a fraction of the cost of a Canon. Surely it wouldn't be too difficult to manufacture a wi-fi unit which sold in the $300.00 range....or perhaps it is too difficult which is why I'm never heard of one.

I assume the latter - look at the disastrous performance of Yn's rt flash transmitter clone which obviously made them delay their whole line of announced rt flashes.

It's true that wifi is standardized and it should be easier to implement, but sub-par radio performance is annoying and will make a lot of people buy the more expensive, but working model. With battery grips it doesn't matter as much for non-critical shooting if you can buy 3x-4x clones for the price of 1x original.

I don't think it is a technical problem. DSLRcontroller and the TL- MR3040 work well on the android system and the cost is about $50. Camranger does the same at a higher price point. No one has cloned the canon unit because it just isn't that good.
 
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hsbn said:
My warranty is up. So I just drag those images when i'm at home on Lightroom map module. At least, there is GPS let me know where to start and using Google Map, I can drag them to the correct location. Still it's annoying.

Sorry to hear that. The good news is that a dodgy GPS won't affect the quality of the images you got.
 
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jthomson said:
I don't think it is a technical problem. DSLRcontroller and the TL- MR3040 work well on the android system and the cost is about $50. Camranger does the same at a higher price point. No one has cloned the canon unit because it just isn't that good.
I believe I looked at the TL-MR3040 for use when traveling in a couple of specific situations. I assume (as dangerous as that is) that you connect to the camera through the USB port on the TL-MR3040 and that allows a wi-fi connection to the android device using DSLR Controller (which I think I have on my Nexus). Is that correct? Interesting idea. I have also considered the Camranger but haven't delved into it deeply since I would use this type of connection so rarely.

Thanks for your input. I think one reason nobody has "cloned" the Canon unit is that the market is so small compared to battery grips or RT flash units, etc.
 
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