Poll: Would you buy a high MP Canon EOS 5DIV?

[tcmatthews]

I more than likely could not justify the cost of a high MP Canon EOS 5DIV.

I remember a conversation when the D800 came out. An event shooter was complaining about the D800 having to much MP. Most of his customers did not want huge prints they wanted pictures for Facebook and such nonsense. The huge Raw images were slowing down his workflow. He was a life long Nikon shooter contemplating buying a 5D III. I do not know what ever happens with that but not everyone needs a high MP camera. And not everyone needs the auto-focus system of the 5D III.

I would rather see them keep the 5DIV an event camera and make a separate High MP camera in the same body size or smaller. A smaller camera is not needed for studio work but could be very useful in landscape photography were hiking is involved.

 

[FEBS]

No, but I'd likely buy a high MP 1-series body.

+1

-1...I hope Canon will release another 1-series just for high MP shooters, not in 1DX II.

+1 to keep it simple

Would love to see a higher MP 5-serie
A 1-serie as a high MP camera, hmmmm, I don't know, I fear they will loose speed in that case, so for that reason I would say, keep the 1Dx line as a high speed gun

 

[distant.star]

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My DSLR buying days are over. I have a 5D3, and that will hold me over through this transition period.

The future is mirrorless.

 

[takesome1]

I didn't read all the posts...but...

How can you have a poll that asks this "Yes. If the reviews confirm the hype."

There is no "Hype", Canon hasn't announced a camera.
The only information anyone here has exists only in their imagination.

 

[Maiaibing]

How can you have a poll that asks this "Yes. If the reviews confirm the hype."
There is no "Hype", Canon hasn't announced a camera.

Because there is always "hype" when a Canon FF 5-series DSLR is announced. If not from anyone else then from Canon Marketing. So extremely solid guess that there will be once again as soon as the 5DIV is announced.

 

[takesome1]

How can you have a poll that asks this "Yes. If the reviews confirm the hype."
There is no "Hype", Canon hasn't announced a camera.

Because there is always "hype" when a Canon FF 5-series DSLR is announced. If not from anyone else then from Canon Marketing. So extremely solid guess that there will be once again as soon as the 5DIV is announced.

Yes, but we don't know the Hype yet

If the Hype is 50mp with 10fps, DR twice what the cameras are now, an AF system that never misses, workable ISO to 12800 then yes please count me in.

 

[unfocused]

It doesn't matter what I want. The 5D III was targeted to wedding and event photographers and its features have made it a must have among that group, by giving them a competitive advantage over photographers not using the 5D III. In contrast the Nikon 800 series has struggled to find an audience because it's features simply aren't targetted to a clear audience of significant size.

I am guessing that Canon will not abandon that audience but rather try to develop features that continues to give wedding and event photographers using canon a competitive advantage. It seems to me the biggest problem these photographers have today is that brides want pictures up on Facebook immediately (as in before the ceremony ends) and their friends can do it with their cellphones more quickly than the person they are paying to shoot the wedding can do it. The first manufacturer who can help pro photographers get images posted to social media as quickly and seamlessly as the wedding guest using an iPhone will have a winner in the marketplace. That's the sort of thing that will sell cameras, not megapixels, dynamic range, etc.

People on this forum can continue to whine, but it's that ability to help photographers meet the demands of their customers that should be the primary goal of Canon or any other company. That means integrated wifi, that is intuitive and quick, most likely with a touch screen interface and maybe even a simple photo editing program built into the camera's software.

 

[FEBS]

It doesn't matter what I want. The 5D III was targeted to wedding and event photographers and its features have made it a must have among that group, by giving them a competitive advantage over photographers not using the 5D III. In contrast the Nikon 800 series has struggled to find an audience because it's features simply aren't targetted to a clear audience of significant size.

I am guessing that Canon will not abandon that audience but rather try to develop features that continues to give wedding and event photographers using canon a competitive advantage. It seems to me the biggest problem these photographers have today is that brides want pictures up on Facebook immediately (as in before the ceremony ends) and their friends can do it with their cellphones more quickly than the person they are paying to shoot the wedding can do it. The first manufacturer who can help pro photographers get images posted to social media as quickly and seamlessly as the wedding guest using an iPhone will have a winner in the marketplace. That's the sort of thing that will sell cameras, not megapixels, dynamic range, etc.

People on this forum can continue to whine, but it's that ability to help photographers meet the demands of their customers that should be the primary goal of Canon or any other company. That means integrated wifi, that is intuitive and quick, most likely with a touch screen interface and maybe even a simple photo editing program built into the camera's software.

+1

I do fully agree on your remarks

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

If by the reviews confirming the hype you mean that the sensor is state of the art and not a 2007 sensor but just with more MP.

If it delivers very good 4k video and has more MP with a lot better low ISO DR, then absolutely I would. If neither of those are true, no way. If one is true, then it depends upon various factors, but more likely than not (although I'd also be spending money elsewhere for sure too and not buying more Canon lenses and such for a while to fund the other stuff).

 

[DRR]

I would take advantage by buying a gently used 5D3 that hits the market. ;D

 

[pwp]

I'd hope a 5D4 wouldn't go past 24 mp, especially if it was at the cost of reduced high ISO performance. I shoot double page spreads, billboards and so on with a 1D 4 and 5D3. Please, no more mp's! Canon had it right settling on the 20-22 mp range with the 1Dx & 5D3. Issues like archive storage, card size, buffer depth, the need for seriously upgraded computers to run post pro on large jobs, ISO performance and so on firm up the argument for keeping the mp size in check. Hell, it's not a competition for the biggest, errm...

I wouldn't argue against some photographers real or perceived needs for megapixel monsters, but that would be best served by a separate model, maybe a successor to the 1ds3. Either that or simply make a commitment to a MF system

-pw

 

[Zv]

It doesn't matter what I want. The 5D III was targeted to wedding and event photographers and its features have made it a must have among that group, by giving them a competitive advantage over photographers not using the 5D III. In contrast the Nikon 800 series has struggled to find an audience because it's features simply aren't targetted to a clear audience of significant size.

I am guessing that Canon will not abandon that audience but rather try to develop features that continues to give wedding and event photographers using canon a competitive advantage. It seems to me the biggest problem these photographers have today is that brides want pictures up on Facebook immediately (as in before the ceremony ends) and their friends can do it with their cellphones more quickly than the person they are paying to shoot the wedding can do it. The first manufacturer who can help pro photographers get images posted to social media as quickly and seamlessly as the wedding guest using an iPhone will have a winner in the marketplace. That's the sort of thing that will sell cameras, not megapixels, dynamic range, etc.

People on this forum can continue to whine, but it's that ability to help photographers meet the demands of their customers that should be the primary goal of Canon or any other company. That means integrated wifi, that is intuitive and quick, most likely with a touch screen interface and maybe even a simple photo editing program built into the camera's software.

That would be pretty sweet if it could give you a share option when you're in the image preview screen. Or a dedicated share button that brings up a submenu with facebook or whatever when the camera is connected to a wifi hotspot or tethered to your phone. That way you could be shooting RAW files and be sharing select jpegs on the go. That would also mean people that aren't there get to see the highlights or BTS shots of an event as it happens.

 

[Mitch.Conner]

I don't get this poll.

 

[Rav]

I am fine with 20 to 24 MP.
I don't care for more than 30 MP because for me it only costs disk space and makes pixel peepers happy - or even not.
Same MP, better high and low ISO performance, maybe some DR on top and I'm fine.

To say it in other words:
The 5D4 must have a real big improvement in IQ (not pixel resolution) that you can recognize at once in real world usage.
Minor improvements (half an stop ISO here, little less noise there) are not enough.
Otherwise I am not interested at all.

Pretty much this.
Other aspects become much more important once you have enough resolution, 20-24MP being enough for my needs, too. Apart from higher image quality improved AF is also something I'd take anytime over more pixels.

Finally, since I find myself not bringing the camera on many trips due to size and weight I'm hoping for a mirrorless ecosystem evolved enough to give me as a hobby FF shooter enough reasons to switch.

 

[Maiaibing]

The 5D III was targeted to wedding and event photographers

Well... not according to Canon - so this is your theory or guess? What info do you have to substantiate such a claim that Canon - as far as I know - has never itself made about the 5DIII target group?

In contrast the Nikon 800 series has struggled to find an audience because it's features simply aren't targetted to a clear audience of significant size.

Another remarkable claim taking into consideration that Canon points to the 70D as the camera that is keeping their sales up while admitting their overall DSLR sales are into a double digit percentage dive - while Nikon is said to enjoy a much more sales curve over the last two years (have not seen a break down on Nikon camera models though so may not be 800-series driving this).

But please point us to the info you have on Canon 5DIII sales being much better than the 800-series. Sales figures are of big interest to lots of people here.

People on this forum can continue to whine, but it's that ability to help photographers meet the demands of their customers that should be the primary goal of Canon or any other company. That means integrated wifi, that is intuitive and quick, most likely with a touch screen interface and maybe even a simple photo editing program built into the camera's software.

Not sure what you are trying to say here. Its "whining" if other people have wishes for their next Canon but your wish list is not? Regardless, I'd like those features too (and a lot more excellent MP) for the 5DIV.

 

[Mitch.Conner]

The 5D III was targeted to wedding and event photographers

Seriously? I'm neither and it's worked out well for me so far.

Is that from official marketing materials/press releases, or your opinion?

I'm genuinely asking.

 

[pwp]

The 5D III was targeted to wedding and event photographers

Seriously? I'm neither and it's worked out well for me so far.
Is that from official marketing materials/press releases, or your opinion?
I'm genuinely asking.

The 5D3 specs make it a highly useful and relevant tool for wedding and event photographers, no question. Obviously the feature set makes it useful and relevant for all sorts of other photographers as well. I saw Unfocused's post, in the context of this thread being a comment that wedding and event photographers probably don't need more megapixels, indeed, more megapixels may be more of a hindrance than a help especially when you're potentially shooting thousands of frames per event/function. That's a lot of data to manage.

It would be reasonably certain that Canon market researchers would consider potential target markets for any of their products, be they DSLR bodies, lenses, pocket cameras or office photocopiers, and tailor the product accordingly. All successful manufacturers do this as a matter of course. For the most part, Canon tend to get this part of the process right. Their market-leading sales are evidence enough.

-pw

 

[pwp]

Poll: Would you buy a high MP Canon EOS 5DIV?
Interesting that the leading vote at this point is NO to a high MP 5D4.

But yikes, now that the 7D2 has been announced, is 5D4 speculation going to be a dominant topic here for the next year or so?

-pw

 

[pierlux]

I don't see the option I want

I don't get this poll.

Ah, I voted for: "Probably. If the reviews confirm the hype and the price is right" and I'd add "But only after the price comes down". A lot.

Interesting that the leading vote at this point is NO to a high MP 5D4.

Since the question is "Would you buy a high MP Canon EOS 5D4" I'd have answered "Yes, when the price comes down, no matter how many fps because I'll use it for studio/macro/landscape only."

Regardless of my specific preferences, maybe this poll does not include enough options, nor the right ones. But this poll makes sense to me. Assuming a high MP 5D4 will cost approx as much as the 5D3/D810, I'd have preferred the following:

• Hell, yes! I'd preorder as soon as possible.
  
• Yes, if higher MP comes along with IQ equal to, or better than, the 5D3, plus the latest bells & whistles".
  
• Probably, if the reviews are favourable.
  
• Possibly, it depends on what the competition has to offer at the time in the DSLR compartment.
  
• No, I'm not interested in a high MP camera, I'd rather care for monster framerate and high ISO IQ.
  
• No, because I'm leaning towards a high MP mirrorless.
  
• Absolutely no. I'm fed up with Canon.

Then I'd vote the second option.


By the way, my yesterday's reply to neuro in this thread was not intended to be posted here, I suppose since I had several tabs open on different threads i messed up things. Since in the end it was only meant as a fun post I didn't bother to cancel it. No attempt to hijack the thread, just said to myself oh, well... never mind.

 

[JonAustin]

I'm waiting for the announcement / release of the 5D4 (whatever resolution it has), so that the price of the 5D3 will drop enough for me to buy a second copy.