Poll: Would you buy a high MP Canon EOS 5DIV?

[Loswr]

If Canon brings us a 8.000$ camera as their answer to Nikon's 3.300$ D810 I for one would "save" the money, buy a D750 and D810 and use the balance to sell my current Canon line-up for Nikon's equivalent. YMMV.

If Canon brings an $8K high MP body as 'the answer' to Nikon's much less expensive FF option, that would be taking a page from Nikon's book, right? Was the D3x 'the answer' to Canon's 5D Mark II? If not, then neither is a high MP 1-series body Canon's answer to the D810. Or if you prefer, Nikon waited 4 years to 'answer' the 5DII with the D800...

 

[sb in ak]

The 5D3 represents a great all around full framer. I'd be interested in high MP if it doesn't mean sacrificing speed, high ISO quality, etc. The 5D3 is about perfect, really. I don't see a big reason to upgrade, but I wouldn't mind having a few more pixels for cropping and a little more dyanamic range.

To be honest, I need to keep honing my eye and filling in holes in my lens collection. I think that'd be a lot more beneficial than owning a 5DIV.

 

[Murilo_mms]

My wish list for 5d4:

- better high iso (In my opinion it is ok until 6400, but I want a real improvement)
- improved metering system (like 7DII)

I came from Nikon (D700, D3s, D4) and the only thing that realy annoys me is the spot metering system of 5D3.

 

[Maiaibing]

Or if you prefer, Nikon waited 4 years to 'answer' the 5DII with the D800...

You're absolutely right. And during all that time Nikon users were really frustrated.

Sadly I can relate to that feeling now.

 

[Sabalok]

I am waiting for a high MP camera from Canon for a loooong time.

 

[Zv]

The interesting question for me would be if Canon came up with a new camera line for high resolution should it be priced above or below the 5D line?

Since Nikon is undercutting Canon's current prices (in fact the new Nikon D750 looks very much like a strong 5DIII competitor on the specs and only costs 2.300$) Canon could hardly bring anything on the market with much less than 36 MP costing much more than 3.300$ without getting flak for being either under-performing or over-priced.

If Canon brings us a 8.000$ camera as their answer to Nikon's 3.300$ D810 I for one would "save" the money, buy a D750 and D810 and use the balance to sell my current Canon line-up for Nikon's equivalent. YMMV.

Are they? I don't think so. Definitely not in Japan. D610 is the same price as the 6D, the D810 is more than the 5D3 and D4s is also way more than a 1DX (also see CR latest post about discounted 1DX offers). Maybe it's different in other countries - I wouldn't know but undercutting sounds like BS to me.

Source - amazon.jp

 

[Maiaibing]

The interesting question for me would be if Canon came up with a new camera line for high resolution should it be priced above or below the 5D line?

Since Nikon is undercutting Canon's current prices (in fact the new Nikon D750 looks very much like a strong 5DIII competitor on the specs and only costs 2.300$) Canon could hardly bring anything on the market with much less than 36 MP costing much more than 3.300$ without getting flak for being either under-performing or over-priced.

If Canon brings us a 8.000$ camera as their answer to Nikon's 3.300$ D810 I for one would "save" the money, buy a D750 and D810 and use the balance to sell my current Canon line-up for Nikon's equivalent. YMMV.

Are they?

It was not a general comment - if you care to read the original post (which you seem not to have done)

I specifically answered to how current Nikon models compare with the 5DIII and what this may indicate for the price of a possible high MP Canon 5DIV - where I pointed to the fact that the Nikon D750 which is very closely specked to match the 5DIII is far cheaper (also in Japan) while the D810 obviously has the MP the 5DIII does not. Leading to my conclusion that "Canon could hardly bring anything on the market with much less than 36 MP costing much more than 3.300$ without getting flak for being either under-performing or over-priced."

[Apart from that Amazon.jp is not a good place to get current info on Japanese camera and lens prices as their prices sometimes are far from the best.]

 

[AcutancePhotography]

The 5D3 represents a great all around full framer.

In my opinion, this represents the best summation of the 5DIII.

It is possible to find other cameras that can do something specifically better than the 5DIII. But as a total package, for a wide span of photography, the 5DIII is an excellent camera system.

 

[NancyP]

Yes, if this were to be the equal to the Nikon 810 or whatever the current "best" 135-format landscape camera would be at the time. Otherwise, not. I am getting pretty good results from the 6D.

 

[tron]

The 5D3 represents a great all around full framer.

In my opinion, this represents the best summation of the 5DIII.

It is possible to find other cameras that can do something specifically better than the 5DIII. But as a total package, for a wide span of photography, the 5DIII is an excellent camera system.

+1

I do hope that 5DIV will continue filling that role too. Better IQ, Better Low and High ISO performance better DR, latest AF, maybe 7-8 fps and ... same MPixel count

Plus the same Mpixel will probably be good for video lovers (I am not) since it will allow the 3x3 pixel binning (probably with more capabilities).

 

[Zv]

The interesting question for me would be if Canon came up with a new camera line for high resolution should it be priced above or below the 5D line?

Since Nikon is undercutting Canon's current prices (in fact the new Nikon D750 looks very much like a strong 5DIII competitor on the specs and only costs 2.300$) Canon could hardly bring anything on the market with much less than 36 MP costing much more than 3.300$ without getting flak for being either under-performing or over-priced.

If Canon brings us a 8.000$ camera as their answer to Nikon's 3.300$ D810 I for one would "save" the money, buy a D750 and D810 and use the balance to sell my current Canon line-up for Nikon's equivalent. YMMV.

Are they?

It was not a general comment - if you care to read the original post (which you seem not to have done)

I specifically answered to how current Nikon models compare with the 5DIII and what this may indicate for the price of a possible high MP Canon 5DIV - where I pointed to the fact that the Nikon D750 which is very closely specked to match the 5DIII is far cheaper (also in Japan) while the D810 obviously has the MP the 5DIII does not. Leading to my conclusion that "Canon could hardly bring anything on the market with much less than 36 MP costing much more than 3.300$ without getting flak for being either under-performing or over-priced."

[Apart from that Amazon.jp is not a good place to get current info on Japanese camera and lens prices as their prices sometimes are far from the best.]

Well of course the D750 is cheaper than the 5DIII, it's about 18 months late to the game. if it were priced same as the 5DIII no one would buy it. Plus those who waited have already bought a perfectly good D800, D800E, D810 or even made do with a D610. So now this comes along and has to compete with all that so it's priced to match.

So you are judging the future price of a mythical camera on the difference between these two cameras?? And you jumped to the conclusion that it would be $8000?? That don't add up at all. Based on the difference between the D750 and 5DIII the high megapixel Canon offering would be about $700 or $800 more than what the (then old) D8xx would be. New vs old? Hmmm, Well that seems reasonable, don't you think?

 

[CarlMillerPhoto]

I am guessing that Canon will not abandon that audience but rather try to develop features that continues to give wedding and event photographers using canon a competitive advantage. It seems to me the biggest problem these photographers have today is that brides want pictures up on Facebook immediately (as in before the ceremony ends) and their friends can do it with their cellphones more quickly than the person they are paying to shoot the wedding can do it. The first manufacturer who can help pro photographers get images posted to social media as quickly and seamlessly as the wedding guest using an iPhone will have a winner in the marketplace. That's the sort of thing that will sell cameras, not megapixels, dynamic range, etc.

At first glance, I was onboard with that idea, but after thinking about it I have completely changed my mind. Everyone knows camera phone pictures are quickly digested. They are visual fast food. I wouldn't want to associate my photography with that, nevermind the fact that directly uploaded images won't be properly edited. I think it's good that couples are waiting to see their professional pictures. It's an implicit demonstration that a lot of work goes into creating them. Additionally, I rarely see a bride on her phone during her wedding, so at best her friends will see it. And anyone who still has a Facebook page for their business knows what a profit hungry platform it is now, forcing you to "boost" page posts to get them seem. So, even if you do get them uploaded quickly it'll only be to a limited audience. Long story short, pro photogs shouldn't be worried about competing with camera phones. If a bride really wants to see her pictures right away, she can pay extra for a reception slideshow.

All that being said, the 5D IV sure as heck better have wifi/NFC built in. They can do some good ol' fashioned engineering and move around the supposed obstacles.

 

[Maiaibing]

Based on the difference between the D750 and 5DIII the high megapixel Canon offering would be about $700 or $800 more than what the (then old) D8xx would be.

It seems you have lost yourself in misreading this thread.

To make it simple: My guess a high MP 5DIV would be in the same price range as the 5DII and 5DIII at their respective launch.

 

[Zv]

Based on the difference between the D750 and 5DIII the high megapixel Canon offering would be about $700 or $800 more than what the (then old) D8xx would be.

It seems you have lost yourself in misreading this thread.

To make it simple: My guess a high MP 5DIV would be in the same price range as the 5DII and 5DIII at their respective launch.

Wow thank you for putting me right. I am soooo dumb sometimes.

 

[eml58]

Based on the difference between the D750 and 5DIII the high megapixel Canon offering would be about $700 or $800 more than what the (then old) D8xx would be.

It seems you have lost yourself in misreading this thread.

To make it simple: My guess a high MP 5DIV would be in the same price range as the 5DII and 5DIII at their respective launch.

Wow thank you for putting me right. I am soooo dumb sometimes.

Love it.

I don't think there's any possible chance a high MP Canon Body won't come at a premium over competition, wether it's a 1D body (more likely I feel) or a 5DMK IVx Body, Canon will not kill the 5D goose, it's been the mainstay dslr for them for some years, Canon may offer a variant of the 5DMK IV as a higher MP sensor/body, but I doubt it, my guess would be an entirely new 5D style body with high MP sensor, or a 1DXs variant.

Either way in keeping with Canon's penchant for higher priced gear than the competition, there's little doubt the Canon challenge to the a7r/D800/D810, will be quite a bit more expensive.

And unless Canon drop a sensor of the 45/50 MP range into that Camera, they will almost certainly find them selves once again caught out when both Nikon & Sony come through in 2015 with high MP bodies sporting the Sony 50MP sensor currently in the phase One & Pentax 645z.

With regards the original Poll Question, I'll reserve my hopes & dreams of a high MP Canon Body in the form of my much loved 1Dx, if Canon do this, I'll have the best of both worlds, 1Dx + 1Dxs, Oh Joy, I can palm off the a7r, stop drooling over the Phase One & 645z, and climb gracefully back into my "only Canon will do" bed.

But like "Zv" I can be sooooo dumb sometimes, what do I know.

 

[AdamF]

Yes I would buy.

 

[ScubaX]

The question is hypothetical and presumes

1) a 5DIV would improve generically on the 5DIII but with a significant MP boost (at least 32MP compared to the existing 22MP for the 5DIII)

2) the price range of such a camera would follow the pattern of the 5D-family (around 3.500$ at launch)

Since you qualified the poll with "5DIV would improve generically on the 5DIII", I would probably not upgrade unless things such as IQ, DR, FPS, buffer speed, Focus points and types etc improved.

I like the idea of increased MP for larger prints, but that alone will not sell me one.

I just do not care about 4k video and nothing I own even uses 4K, not my TV nor my computer monitor. The 5D3 is just too heavy for video that I do without buying a grand or more worth of stabilizing arms. I take video for fun with an iPhone, otherwise I take photos.

 

[dickgrafixstop]

Think Doris Day said it best - que sera, sera. There is surely room for improvements in the current line because technology marches on, but I am more concerned with Canon's planning wizards packing it with video features,
wi-fi connectivity, and perhaps in-camera editing at the expense of still photo capabilities. Faster dual media cards are surely a continued requirement, better low light performance, faster autofocus all seem to take priority in my world over a 40-50% jump in pixel availability.

 

[dgatwood]

By contrast, I'll consider it if it has Wi-Fi, GPS, and DPAF for video. I don't use video that often, but I do periodically find myself using live view to get shots that would otherwise be much harder, so DPAF matters. I don't use Wi-Fi all the time, but it is nice to have in a pinch, when you don't want to pull out a proper remote. And none of those things negatively impact still photography in any way, so leaving them out would be just plain silly.

 

[Woody]

I am keen on a 46 MP EOS 5D Mk IV (or better still EOS 6D Mk 2). Reason is simple: I get to crop down to 18 MP APS-C size. So I effectively get 46 MP FF and 18 MP APS-C cameras in 1 package. Sounds good. ;D

But I may change my mind if this really happens. ;D