Preorder: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II, Free CFast Card & Reader About to End

[tpatana]

Re: Preorder: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II

...15+ stops of DR, like what Nikon has been achieving....

You really should avoid psychoactive drugs, they negatively affect cognitive ability.

Or, he should be sharing.

 

[iaind]

Re: Preorder: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II

£5199? Ouch! Sorry to hear that. That's about $7,500. I really hate UK pricing of camera equipment.

And people wonder why there is a market for grey imports.

Either 1d4 or 5d2 or both will have to go as trade ins 24 months interest free softens the blow

 

[et31]

Re: Preorder: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II

...15+ stops of DR, like what Nikon has been achieving....

You really should avoid psychoactive drugs, they negatively affect cognitive ability.

Be nice!
...correction: trying to achieve / in the process of approaching that range.
Regardless, Nikon has been ahead of Canon on this area of stops of light when it comes to their sensors.

 

[gsealy]

Re: Preorder: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II

No built in ND filters, focus peaking, Zebra and all the other bells and whistles for a 'serious' cinematographer?

What I'm hoping for is a 1DC2 -- with 10-bit, C-Log, dual CFast, balanced audio, peaking & zebras, etc. -- all ready for the NAB.

-- peer

It seems that Canon is missing out on some revenue opportunities by not making or licensing add on software packages. So they could have the basic 1DxII package for a base price. And then have add on software that could be purchased by the people that want it, such as the options above. Many still photographers could care less about them, but people wanting more video features would go for it. I look at the Magic Lantern feature set and I would say many people would have paid for it. The thing is at least they would be available. As it is right now we have to wait for Canon to maybe come out with a firmware update. Here is this wonderful,, awesome machine (or perhaps call it a 'platform' ) that could be even better and more useful with it being tailored the right way.

yes!!!! me too

 

[Loswr]

Re: Preorder: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II

...15+ stops of DR, like what Nikon has been achieving....

You really should avoid psychoactive drugs, they negatively affect cognitive ability.

Be nice!
...correction: trying to achieve / in the process of approaching that range.
Regardless, Nikon has been ahead of Canon on this area of stops of light when it comes to their sensors.

Correction: at low ISO, with sensors bought from Sony. Especially if you roll your own DxO in some Sony paper and smoke it. I think that even legal recreation in all 50 states!

 

[et31]

Re: Preorder: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II

...15+ stops of DR, like what Nikon has been achieving....

You really should avoid psychoactive drugs, they negatively affect cognitive ability.

Be nice!
...correction: trying to achieve / in the process of approaching that range.
Regardless, Nikon has been ahead of Canon on this area of stops of light when it comes to their sensors.

Correction: at low ISO, with sensors bought from Sony. Especially if you roll your own DxO in some Sony paper and smoke it. I think that even legal recreation in all 50 states!

True! Higher DR with lower ISOs. Direct proportional decay of DR with increase of ISO range for any camera.
Unfortunately true also with the Sony patents. At least Canon has the highest number of DSLR patents in the industry, but they are very slow in implementing them into their cameras. I do love my D810 for landscapes (ISO <50) at 14.8 DR. Seems like a waste to spend $4k on a 5DsR with only 12.4 stops of light. 36 megapixels is more than enough with a 7K sensor.

 

[Loswr]

Re: Preorder: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II

I do love my D810 for landscapes (ISO <50) at 14.8 DR.

Ahhh, you have indeed been smoking DxO. Sounds like you skipped the soft stuff and went straight to crack-BS in your pipe. That's some bad mojo, man.

When you start capturing the highlights and shadows of scenes with >14-stops of DR, be a good neighbor and let us know, mmmmmkay?

Friends don't let friends smoke DxO then take pictures!

 

[et31]

Re: Preorder: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II

I do love my D810 for landscapes (ISO <50) at 14.8 DR.

Ahhh, you have indeed been smoking DxO. Sounds like you skipped the soft stuff and went straight to crack-BS in your pipe. That's some bad mojo, man.

When you start capturing the highlights and shadows of scenes with >14-stops of DR, be a good neighbor and let us know, mmmmmkay?

The shadows and highlights are amazing! You should join the dark side of the force!

Friends don't let friends smoke DxO then take pictures!

The shadows and highlights are amazing! You should join the dark side of the force!
Photos look more natural and definitely are cleaner at higher ISO values.
Recovery and noise on the 5D Mark III is "ok"; Good, but not D810 good.
I don't care. I have both and I am happy. Different tool for a different job.

 

[PFerrara]

Re: Preorder: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II

Haven't seen an Aussie price yet but assume it will be north of AUD$8,000. Oh well, have to start saving (and selling).

http://www.camerahouse.com.au/products/DSLR/Canon-EOS-1DXII-Body-Digital-SLR-Camera.aspx

AUD$8999 = USD$6300

Same price as Nikon D5

Thanks (I think). I was hoping for no higher than $8,500. Might see it come down a little bit once Nikon reduce the D5 which some are predicting.

They always seem to know just how much you are willing to spend... And then they price it just a little bit more..

 

[Jack Douglas]

Re: Preorder: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II

Haven't seen an Aussie price yet but assume it will be north of AUD$8,000. Oh well, have to start saving (and selling).

http://www.camerahouse.com.au/products/DSLR/Canon-EOS-1DXII-Body-Digital-SLR-Camera.aspx

AUD$8999 = USD$6300

Same price as Nikon D5

Thanks (I think). I was hoping for no higher than $8,500. Might see it come down a little bit once Nikon reduce the D5 which some are predicting.

They always seem to know just how much you are willing to spend... And then they price it just a little bit more..

Exactly my situation. I can't justify about $9000 CAD. I could order but I won't. I must show initiative and sell about $2000 worth of junk for my peace of mind, first. (conscience plays games with me!)

Jack

 

[brianb]

Re: Preorder: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II

HOW MANY WEEK/MONTHS TILL WE GET SOME 5d4 NEWS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS

Don't you mean YEARS/CENTURIES.......LOL

 

[eml58]

Re: Preorder: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II

Definitely worth a look, in particular the touch screen auto tracking feature, insane !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p67plTeMyD8

 

[JMZawodny]

Re: Preorder: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II

If I can get concurrence from "the boss" I may just have to pre-order. Life is too short to wait to see what the 5D4 will be like and then rationalize the purchase of one over the other.

She's not happy and is making the demand that she gets her own DSLR in return. My daughter wants my 5D2 and a couple of recently replaced zooms. I think this is something I can work with.

Pick up a refurb SL1 for the wife and you're good to go

We're good. I only had to give up my EOS M and the complete set of lenses. I won't tell her about EF-EFM adapter though.

 

[Jack Douglas]

Re: Preorder: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II

Hey Edward, it strikes me that I'd be nuts to buy this and not start shooting a lot more video. After all a lot of folks will love to see quality video, probably more than stills, depending on circumstance and situation. And with favorite L glass ..... I'm excited too. It'll be tough to hold out a year but I think that's what I'll be doing.

Jack

 

[Loswr]

Re: Preorder: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II

I do love my D810 for landscapes (ISO <50) at 14.8 DR.

Ahhh, you have indeed been smoking DxO. Sounds like you skipped the soft stuff and went straight to crack-BS in your pipe. That's some bad mojo, man.

When you start capturing the highlights and shadows of scenes with >14-stops of DR, be a good neighbor and let us know, mmmmmkay?

The shadows and highlights are amazing! You should join the dark side of the force!

Friends don't let friends smoke DxO then take pictures!

The shadows and highlights are amazing! You should join the dark side of the force!
Photos look more natural and definitely are cleaner at higher ISO values.
Recovery and noise on the 5D Mark III is "ok"; Good, but not D810 good.
I don't care. I have both and I am happy. Different tool for a different job.

'Amazing' and 'good' are subjective. '14.8 stops' is a mathematical deception which you've swallowed hook, line and sinker. Keep on tokin'!

 

[Diltiazem]

Re: Preorder: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II

A Canon ambassador talks about AF and DR.

http://rudgr.com/tag/canon-1dx2/

 

[eml58]

Re: Preorder: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II

Hey Edward, it strikes me that I'd be nuts to buy this and not start shooting a lot more video. After all a lot of folks will love to see quality video, probably more than stills, depending on circumstance and situation. And with favorite L glass ..... I'm excited too. It'll be tough to hold out a year but I think that's what I'll be doing.

Jack

Hi Jack, well if video is important to you then the 1Dx II to me, seems a normal Canon upgrade to the Stills side of the 1Dx plus integration of the 1Dc.

I did a comparison on basic Technical specs (on paper), between the 1Dx II and the Nikon D5, on the stills side the D5 seems to have an edge over the 1Dx II, which is a flip when comparing the the 1Dx and both iterations of the D4 (again it's subjective, so please everyone hold off on the Canon Rant stuff), but again the 1Dx II has definitely got the edge over the D5 when you look at the Video side.

And the Canon is $500 cheaper of course.

It will be interesting to see what Nikon do when they bring out the D5s, with Nikon you generally get a chance to feel you threw your money away twice during a Model, with Canon you only get the feeling once, which should be considered a Positive.

The Video does look good on the 1Dx II, it may push me to do more video, maybe, on the stills side there's enough there that I've pre ordered one body, now I just need to off load 2 x 1Dx bodies and 2 x 5DMK III Bodies before I look at a 2nd unit, Botswana in June.

 

[Jack Douglas]

Re: Preorder: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II

Hey Edward, it strikes me that I'd be nuts to buy this and not start shooting a lot more video. After all a lot of folks will love to see quality video, probably more than stills, depending on circumstance and situation. And with favorite L glass ..... I'm excited too. It'll be tough to hold out a year but I think that's what I'll be doing.

Jack

Hi Jack, well if video is important to you then the 1Dx II to me, seems a normal Canon upgrade to the Stills side of the 1Dx plus integration of the 1Dc.

I did a comparison on basic Technical specs (on paper), between the 1Dx II and the Nikon D5, on the stills side the D5 seems to have an edge over the 1Dx II, which is a flip when comparing the the 1Dx and both iterations of the D4 (again it's subjective, so please everyone hold off on the Canon Rant stuff), but again the 1Dx II has definitely got the edge over the D5 when you look at the Video side.

And the Canon is $500 cheaper of course.

It will be interesting to see what Nikon do when they bring out the D5s, with Nikon you generally get a chance to feel you threw your money away twice during a Model, with Canon you only get the feeling once, which should be considered a Positive.

The Video does look good on the 1Dx II, it may push me to do more video, maybe, on the stills side there's enough there that I've pre ordered one body, now I just need to off load 2 x 1Dx bodies and 2 x 5DMK III Bodies before I look at a 2nd unit, Botswana in June.

There'll be a good number of us waiting for your personal reports from Botswana! Video too, but obviously the down side is it's more challenging to share. I'm really upbeat about the new video AF.

Jack

 

[MTCWBY]

Re: Preorder: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II

I bit the bullet and ordered. I'll be in the middle of baseball season and then heading to London in June. Since my last vacation had a shutter failure on the 5D III I won't regret having backup this time.

 

[et31]

Re: Preorder: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II

I do love my D810 for landscapes (ISO <50) at 14.8 DR.

Ahhh, you have indeed been smoking DxO. Sounds like you skipped the soft stuff and went straight to crack-BS in your pipe. That's some bad mojo, man.

When you start capturing the highlights and shadows of scenes with >14-stops of DR, be a good neighbor and let us know, mmmmmkay?

The shadows and highlights are amazing! You should join the dark side of the force!

Friends don't let friends smoke DxO then take pictures!

The shadows and highlights are amazing! You should join the dark side of the force!
Photos look more natural and definitely are cleaner at higher ISO values.
Recovery and noise on the 5D Mark III is "ok"; Good, but not D810 good.
I don't care. I have both and I am happy. Different tool for a different job.

'Amazing' and 'good' are subjective. '14.8 stops' is a mathematical deception which you've swallowed hook, line and sinker. Keep on tokin'!

"Swallowed hook, line and sinker" Only a sith deals in absolutes! Please explain, o grand poobah :, as to why Canon and Nikon do not release definitive values of DR vs. ISO for their cameras, and why it is left up to several independent websites to create conflicting comparative analyses? Some sites say 12.8, 13.6, 14.8, etc.

In order to quell the argument once and for all, someone needs to properly perform tests like the ones done here:
DSC labs XYLA-21 transmissive chart + IMATEST to have objective results as opposed to a visual subjective analysis looking at waveform visual readouts.

https://www.cinema5d.com/canon-measured-15-stops-dynamic-range-c300-mark-ii/

Let us know what values you come up with from your own analysis after spending a few $$$ on metrology equipment. You can then set up a new website (call it DxO Rebuttal 2.0 if you must) with the true values and put the problem to rest once and for all.