right now i am not happy to be a canon user

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Freelancer said:
i want a second FF camera as backup body for some time.

i checked lowest prices on the internet the last two days.
and i must say im not happy to be a canon user at the moment.

why?

because i think canon gear is way overprized.
well that´s nothing new but right now it hurts me.

i can get a D800 for 2289 euro from a big and reputed reseller here in germany (from some smaller shops it´s as low as 2150 euro).

for the 6D i have to pay around 2000 euro and the 5D MK3 cost around 2800 euro.

especially the 6D is way to expensive compared to both the D600 and D800 (the D600 cost around 1599).

i don´t even get a new 5D MK2 for 1599 euro.

canon must be a happy company to be able to sell the cameras, even at these prices, to it´s loyal customers.

i am dreaming when i expect huge price drops in the coming months?

im very curious to see sales numbers for both nikon and canon from the 4 quartal 2012.
the D600 looks like a steal.

There is always 35mm film...
 
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Ok so buy a D800 or D600 if Canon stuff is a ripoff. The problem is that if it really were a ripoff then no one would be buying the stuff, there are plenty of people that bought these cameras and don't feel that they were ripped off.
 
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Freelancer said:
for the 6D i have to pay around 2000 euro and the 5D MK3 cost around 2800 euro.

especially the 6D is way to expensive compared to both the D600 and D800 (the D600 cost around 1599).

The 6d ist just about being released in Germany and it costs even less than the D600 when it was released just 3 months ago. And regarding the current D600 deals - Canon offers the 5d mk ii (which at least I would prefer over the 6d and D600) for 1650 euro, or less than 1500 euro when you import it from the US (including tax and shipping) - who would have believed that a year ago?

Just have a little patience, prices for 6d will eventually drop.
 
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>:( I don't like the prices either. >:(

:-\But I don't like being without a 5D Mark III even more... :-\

;DFound the best deal I could, ordered my Camera. Get's here in a couple days, I already forgot how much I paid, I just can't wait to put it in my hands! ;D

8)Just get what you want and don't look back! I paid too much for dinner last night too, but man it was good! 8)
 
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Sounds like the OP needs a holiday - New York City is quite nice, and I'm sure you can get a 6D/5DIII locally.

I'm almost tempted to say that a trip to LA to have the USA service center in Hollywood take a peak at your 5DIII issues.
 
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Halfrack said:
Sounds like the OP needs a holiday - New York City is quite nice, and I'm sure you can get a 6D/5DIII locally.

I'm almost tempted to say that a trip to LA to have the USA service center in Hollywood take a peak at your 5DIII issues.

Seriously, I'm from Germany too, and I've recenly checked flight prices to NY, to get me some new gear :)
 
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tortilla said:
Halfrack said:
Sounds like the OP needs a holiday - New York City is quite nice, and I'm sure you can get a 6D/5DIII locally.

I'm almost tempted to say that a trip to LA to have the USA service center in Hollywood take a peak at your 5DIII issues.

Seriously, I'm from Germany too, and I've recenly checked flight prices to NY, to get me some new gear :)

Oh stop whining my german friends and just invade the UK... it may just work this time and it is closer! (Is 65 years too soon?) :D
 
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Sigh. You really reap the whirlwind when you dare express UNhappiness about Mother Canon on this site.

Always the same gems too: "Expressing unhappiness does no good, blah, blah. You are getting me and other Canon users stirred up blah, blah. The equipment is irrelevant because a great photog like me can get awesome shots on a $2 camera blah, blah. So just bite me, and sell all your gear at a loss and then buy it all back in Nikon/Sony, blah blah. Ansel Adams blah, blah."

I wonder why no one complains about the futility of expressing HAPPINESS with a Canon product, which surely must be of equally low practical effect?
No one ever prefaces a gushing rave about their beloved new camera or lens with wisdom like: "Though the equipment is meaningless, here is a shot I just took with my new blah, blah."

Negative posts do not bother me. I kind of like them, or at least the idea that they are possible and acceptable. What would bother me is if this site (or any site) is expected to be a propaganda organ like a North Korean newspaper, where no praise is too effusive, and no criticism will be tolerated.

Everyone needs to lighten up. No one is slamming anyone's mother or sniggering at anyone's manhood by saying they are ticked off by something Canon did. But I guess it is 2 sides of the same coin, isn't it? People on both sides who have invested heavily in a camera system naturally react emotionally one direction or the other. If you are heavily invested and start thinking Canon is trailing the competition and/or raising prices, you are ticked and want to say so. Conversely, if you are heavily invested and some ticked-off guy starts saying so, you are unhappy to have to think about how he could have a point about the quality of your equipment and the wisdom of your investment.
 
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Freelancer said:
sandymandy said:
Canon is just more expensive, cant help it. Or you could get a Nikon as 2nd body. Best of both worlds.

well the gap is widening quite a lot in 2012. :-[

Just get a Nikon as 2nd body. Plus u can use Nikon lenses on your Canon camera too with a cheap adapter :D
Or just get 5d mark 2 as 2nd body. Its not a bad camera at all and fits in ur price range i think.
 
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Canon offers twelve EOS cameras in their current product line, and the used market has numerous past models, full frame and crop. The price range is extremely broad, so there is something for almost every budget and photographic purpose. And people still find something to be unhappy about.
 
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Martin said:
and...I would understand if your pay for a camera which works flawlessly. Unfortunately I bought my in May, and so far, several European service actions hasn't fixes mine. Service in Germany even completely blocked one of my ,almost new, L lens. No one is willing to exchange the camera for a new one. I own 5 lenses (4 Ls) and that's why I cannot be happy with Canon. Paid really a lot for the brand new, faulty body, without good working AF, so I feel like I just waste my money right now. I completely agree that Canon is too expensive relatively, but mine was the most expensive camera I had ever bought. I wanted to buy some new lens next year but I just cant. Trust me-that is a real reason to be unhappy with Canon, the will just left you with faulty body if you are unlucky. The issue and the whole case is not only my problem as there are also 3 other professional photographers on the local most known Canon forum, who have the same problem with Canon. We have been just completely left with faulty gear. So my advice is double or triple check otherwise service will not help you in some cases.

When you say you are left with faulty gear, do you mean 1) it does not work as advertised and Canon won't fix it, or 2) that it does not work the way you want it to (but does work exactly the way it is designed)?

If the former (1), you have legal recourse available to you. Contact your government trade commission and ask them how to file a complaint. I seriously doubt that Canon repair really is leaving you high and dry - I want to hear the rest of the story.

If the later (2), then there is really nothing to be done, other than to either wait until Canon makes one works the way you want, see if Magic Lantern does what you want, or change to a different brand that may (or may not) work the way you want.
 
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Zlatko said:
Canon offers twelve EOS cameras in their current product line, and the used market has numerous past models, full frame and crop. The price range is extremely broad, so there is something for almost every budget and photographic purpose. And people still find something to be unhappy about.

Yes you can get the Rebel T3/1100D for 300 euro, that's propably within the OP's budget, but I understand he's looking for a FF body.
 
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Canon keeps lowering prices ...
- 5DIII is 15% less than when it was introduced
- 5DII is 40% less than when it was introduced
- 7D is 28% less than when it was introduced
- 60D is 30% less than when it was introduced
... but does anyone acknowledge or give them credit for that? A manufacturer can't win no matter what they do. If prices go down, people take it as proof that they were overpriced in the first place, and complain about the loss of resale value. If prices go up, people blame them for starting to overprice. And if prices stay the same, people complain that prices don't go down.
 
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OP hasn't been seen since neuro's post though I did hear some sirens earlier...

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ScottyP: excellent comment. The OP is not whining because canon failed to make his ideal camera for $19.95. He is frustrated because a product he purchased is, in his view, not performing properly and has not received satisfaction from the manufacturer.

Yes it may be futile to complain here, but that's no reason to flame him.

However my reaction was that the post might be be better titled: not happy being in Germany, since the problems seem partly caused by his location. Add in the fact that his tax dollars are being used to bail out the rest of Europe and I can understand the frustration .
 
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