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[TeT]

I just dont see that this advertisement was aimed at us, although invariably this group would be the first to see it.

I expect to see follow up advertisements in print. I think the tag line was unfortunate from a transalation and language usage standpoint (insofar as american english is concerned)

The capabilities shown and discussed in the advertisement were somehwat impressive and could/should be well received by their target audience. if they can get past the tag line, which I cannot.

Oh yea and the cinema camera/lens plug; Use a movie that is at least still in theatres ($1 shows dont count)...

 

[ewg963]

I don't consider you part of the group that's been running around insulting anyone they decide to label as a DRone.

Personally, I would LIKE certain people to ignore me. I think it would be best if they ignored a bunch of people on these forums. I truly believe if they do, the DR wars would pretty much end. I doubt it would completely end the little bickering about DR in general, but what we've had the last couple of months has been really nasty compared to how it was the prior year...about as nasty as it got when Mikael was still here. So yes, I really would prefer that certain people use the forum feature to ignore me. This has nothing to do with having a reasoned debate, it has nothing to do with whether people have intelligent things to say or not...it has everything to do with attitude. Certain people have just decided that they have the right to belittle and degrade and insult anyone they wish as part of their attempt to control the topics of discussion on these forums. If they would stop insulting people, and actually have a reasoned debate, or simply bow out if they can't be reasonable...then I agree, there is no reason to ignore anyone. If they could stop insulting people, I think it's possible to have a REASONABLE DISCUSSION about sensor technology in general, and how it can and does benefit IQ. Not just DR, but more than that. I can't have a discussion like that. No one can. Because of a handful of individuals on this forum who simply won't let us.

To be clear. I'm not offended because someone doesn't believe the same thing I do. I'm offended because of the offensive things being said on these forums day in and day out by people on one side of the argument. I'm offended because I'm not being allowed to discuss something that matters to me without being harassed about it...not even in a thread I created myself dedicated to the subject. I could care less if people agree with me in the end. Maybe I care a bit that people actually listen to what I say, and not dismiss it out of hand...but if they disagree in the end, fine! I do care that people be civil about it. I'm an intense debater, I like to provide the math and science to back up my claims, and I argue hard for my point of view...but I generally try to avoid insulting people.

I myself am not on one side here as far as brand and gear goes, either, I'm just painted (again, by a handful of individuals) as being that way. I've said on countless occasions that I like my Canon equipment for my action (bird and wildlife) photography. I've been pretty explicit about not liking it for landscapes or anything else that can use more DR. This fact is handily ignored by the people who have labeled me a DRone. My opinion changed a few months ago after I couldn't deny the rather poor performance of my new 5D III when it comes to read noise when I started trying to do landscapes again....then I started messing a lot more with D800 and A7r raw files, and the differences, to me, are quite huge. I think this is a big area where Canon really needs to improve. I'd PREFER to have Canon cameras...I'm STUCK looking elsewhere because Canon keeps ignoring the issue. (And it's really been going on since before the D800...that was just the clearest example on it's release of where sensor technology was going...the Pentax K-5 and Nikon D7000 actually had Exmor sensors some time before the D800.)

I simply want the freedom to discuss the things that matter to me without the harassment...without the insults and derogatory statements and constant spite. I want others to be able to discuss it as well. I don't agree 100% with some of the hard core DR guys on these forums either. I agree that Exmor has better DR, and now I agree that the improvements in DR with Exmor-based cameras is much larger than I used to think...but I don't agree with everything many of the long-term DR guys on these forums say. Some seems to insist that Canon cameras just suck in all areas, or at the very least, are not top-notch in many areas where I think they are top-notch (i.e. AF/tracking, lenses, etc.) I have a fairly middle-ground opinion, but I'm painted as being a beyond-extreme hyper-wacko DRone nutcase...and that really ticks me off. So yeah...I really wish certain people (and no, I don't mean you...it's a small handful of specific individuals) would just IGNORE me, and be done with it.

+100000000000000000000000000000000000000000

 

[Lawliet]

Oh yea and the cinema camera/lens plug; Use a movie that is at least still in theatres ($1 shows dont count)...

For that matter reading the comments, especially the one by the director himself, is enlightening. Contrary to apologetic mantras finding suitable productions isn't that easy. Some might claim that's just my bias - yet Canon pulled a Potemkin. Makes one wonder why?

 

[Loswr]

Personally, I would LIKE to stop seeing requests for more DR and/or shadow lifting ability from Canon sensors to be phrased as...

I like my Canon gear in many ways, but I want it to be catapulted forward into the modern age of digital photography...

Because, you know, things like DPAF, a dedicated PDAF system with dozens of all cross-type sensors spread widely across the frame, the fastest frame rate in a FF dSLR, an OEM radio-controlled flash system, a handholdable 600/4, hybrid IS in a macro lens, etc., those are all just so...antiquated.

I guess we don't always get what we want.

 

[zlatko]

I just love how when something doesn't turn out all roses for Canon, people turn to the obvious scapegoats: "Oh, it's just paid off competitor employees making all the comments." "Oh, you represent a tiny fraction of the Canon customer base." "Oh, votes are completely irrelevant and don't represent anything."

One person on another forum is going so far as to say that Canon has never crippled AutoISO and that it's a very advanced feature and that even though they left EC out of it on the 6D and crippled the maximum minimum shutter speed for Av mode that it's perfect and that nobody should expect some magically perfect AutoISO.

Never mind that it's a 10 cent feature that takes like 10 lines of code and that a single ML side hacker re-wrote the entire AutoISO module, without any documentation, in just a short time and that other brands have fully functional AutoISO in even low end DSLRs for years.

But the guy insists that Canon has never crippled the feature and that only people who want some miracle version perfected to their standards could make such a claim. :

Wow, that's a thoroughly re-invented and misrepresented version of what was written in that other forum! It would take too long to correct all of your misstatements there.

actually it's not

If you're referring to my posts, your version is false from top to bottom, with lots of fanciful rephrasing in-between.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

I just love how when something doesn't turn out all roses for Canon, people turn to the obvious scapegoats: "Oh, it's just paid off competitor employees making all the comments." "Oh, you represent a tiny fraction of the Canon customer base." "Oh, votes are completely irrelevant and don't represent anything."

One person on another forum is going so far as to say that Canon has never crippled AutoISO and that it's a very advanced feature and that even though they left EC out of it on the 6D and crippled the maximum minimum shutter speed for Av mode that it's perfect and that nobody should expect some magically perfect AutoISO.

Never mind that it's a 10 cent feature that takes like 10 lines of code and that a single ML side hacker re-wrote the entire AutoISO module, without any documentation, in just a short time and that other brands have fully functional AutoISO in even low end DSLRs for years.

But the guy insists that Canon has never crippled the feature and that only people who want some miracle version perfected to their standards could make such a claim. :

Wow, that's a thoroughly re-invented and misrepresented version of what was written in that other forum! It would take too long to correct all of your misstatements there.

actually it's not

If you're referring to my posts, your version is false from top to bottom, with lots of fanciful rephrasing in-between.

Well people can go read it for themselves and decide that for themselves. I will leave it at that.

 

[zlatko]

I just love how when something doesn't turn out all roses for Canon, people turn to the obvious scapegoats: "Oh, it's just paid off competitor employees making all the comments." "Oh, you represent a tiny fraction of the Canon customer base." "Oh, votes are completely irrelevant and don't represent anything."

One person on another forum is going so far as to say that Canon has never crippled AutoISO and that it's a very advanced feature and that even though they left EC out of it on the 6D and crippled the maximum minimum shutter speed for Av mode that it's perfect and that nobody should expect some magically perfect AutoISO.

Never mind that it's a 10 cent feature that takes like 10 lines of code and that a single ML side hacker re-wrote the entire AutoISO module, without any documentation, in just a short time and that other brands have fully functional AutoISO in even low end DSLRs for years.

But the guy insists that Canon has never crippled the feature and that only people who want some miracle version perfected to their standards could make such a claim. :

Wow, that's a thoroughly re-invented and misrepresented version of what was written in that other forum! It would take too long to correct all of your misstatements there.

actually it's not

If you're referring to my posts, your version is false from top to bottom, with lots of fanciful rephrasing in-between.

Well people can go read it for themselves and decide that for themselves. I will leave it at that.

Oh please, I know what I wrote, and it's nothing like your blatant misrepresentation. Instead of responding directly to what I wrote in that other forum by posting *in that other forum*, you sneakily rephrased everything in the most ridiculous way here — as if someone had actually written that. Really, really uncool forum ethics and etiquette.

 

[dstppy]

Speaking from the 'oh, this crap again' crowd, we're just sick of every thread about every thread, about every topic, ending up a talk on DR.

Look at it this way, what if someone take wifi, or *** and every thread harps that it's not in camera X, on every thread. You'd think they're a lunatic.

This has gotten way out of hand; when I started here, I used to read every new post because I'd learn something or be entertained, after a while, I'd only read topics I was interested in . . . now I click on the headlines and when the first page has someone complaining about a new sensor or DR.

When someone complains about that, or tells someone they're a nut, for, well, behaving like a nut, they get called fanboys. Want to see fanboys? apple insider -- basically the same as here but a lot less objectivity.

I'm a Canon loyalist for my own reasons, but I tell people new to DSLRs to go with either them or Nikon, depending what their family and friends shoot for support reasons. Same thing with Apple. I like certain products, but I'll call them out for never making a single 'good' mouse ever. You like Windows? Great, but make sure you buy a computer that's got enough oomph to not make it a bad experience.

Lot of bad etiquette here these days. Lot of badwill. Seems like a lot of shills with multiple accounts, just stirring up trouble.

I remember the days when I was the only lunatic around here :-[

 

[AcutancePhotography]

Speaking from the 'oh, this crap again' crowd, we're just sick of every thread about every thread, about every topic, ending up a talk on DR.

Except that is not what is happening. Every (most) threads do not end up as a discussion about DR. Most threads seem to end up as a discussion (argument) about people talking about DR or posters making snarky comments about DR.

There has not been an actual discussion about DR here for a while.

 

[dstppy]

Speaking from the 'oh, this crap again' crowd, we're just sick of every thread about every thread, about every topic, ending up a talk on DR.

Except that is not what is happening. Every (most) threads do not end up as a discussion about DR. Most threads seem to end up as a discussion (argument) about people talking about DR or posters making snarky comments about DR.

There has not been an actual discussion about DR here for a while.

That's fine -- and that's exactly what I mean. There's no discourse, only discord. It's off-topic backbiting and fighting that this has all become.

 

[EchoLocation]

does anyone care about the actual outcome of this marketing campaign by Canon?
what actually happened? any excitement?
sorry, i'm in china, and the page won't load here in my office.
sonyalpharumors at least reported on the outcome, but canonrumors, nothing?
it was just a video about their video capabilities? what was the teaser actually for?

Neuro, is this really you on the sonyalpharumors comments section?
"Neuraoanatomist • 12 hours ago
canon video has nothing to do with the panic attack video you idiots.. you retarded bloggers have no clue at all.
nowhere canon says it has anything to do with the panik attack video."

 

[Loswr]

Neuro, is this really you on the sonyalpharumors comments section?
"Neuraoanatomist • 12 hours ago
canon video has nothing to do with the panic attack video you idiots.. you retarded bloggers have no clue at all.
nowhere canon says it has anything to do with the panik attack video."

Lol, no. Some pathetic individual who was banned from CR, I suspect.