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Shootout: EF 16-35 f/4L IS vs EF 17-40 f/4L

grahamclarkphoto said:
expatinasia said:
grahamclarkphoto said:
expatinasia said:
Stopped watching after a few seconds. A photographer that uses a white background while wearing a white and blue t-shirt, and is himself very pale white. Weird. All far too bright, I would need sunglasses to watch that.

And not even a few seconds of intro to ease you into the video.

I will stick to TDP for my reviews as Bryan knows what he is doing.

Wasn't focusing on the t-shirt this time around, rather the lens

My comment had nothing to do with your choice of t-shirt. Seriously?! That's what you took from my comment. lol.

Choosing a bright white background like that is not wise. Plus you need a 2 or 3 second intro of something.

Very poor video, and I personally would not take any camera advice from someone that produces someone like that about a camera product.

Oh no... I'm heartbroken ;D

Graham

You seem to have a problem taking constructive criticism.
 
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rsk7 said:
He mentions needing thin UV filter preferably with double threading so lens caps stay on. But he doesn't recommend any.

Anyone know which brands/models work without adding to the vignette?

B+W MRC Nano works really well for me.

Graham..I liked the review, a great job. I actually sold my 16-35mm f/2.8 II and bought the new offering. After owning in the past 17-40mm f4L, 10-22mm and 16-35 f2.8L II, I can also say this is the sharpest wide open from center to borders and also allow to share all my 77mm filters that I couldn't do it with my f2.8L II.
This is fast an accurate and I could get sharp pictures at 1/5 s without forcing too much.
 
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Thank you, I found the review very informative and useful. I have the 17-40mm and I appreciate your findings that it is still a solid performer. This means I can hold off of the 16-35mm f/4 and save for another lens or camera. I did not find your tshirt or intro distracting. You put a lot of time and effort in your video and that is appreciated.

Thanks for being constructive unlike some posters.
 
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grahamclarkphoto said:
expatinasia said:
grahamclarkphoto said:
expatinasia said:
Stopped watching after a few seconds. A photographer that uses a white background while wearing a white and blue t-shirt, and is himself very pale white. Weird. All far too bright, I would need sunglasses to watch that.

And not even a few seconds of intro to ease you into the video.

I will stick to TDP for my reviews as Bryan knows what he is doing.

Wasn't focusing on the t-shirt this time around, rather the lens

My comment had nothing to do with your choice of t-shirt. Seriously?! That's what you took from my comment. lol.

Choosing a bright white background like that is not wise. Plus you need a 2 or 3 second intro of something.

Very poor video, and I personally would not take any camera advice from someone that produces someone like that about a camera product.

Oh no... I'm heartbroken ;D

Graham

Graham - thanks for taking the time to do such a thorough review of the lens. I have learned that doing reviews always opens you up to criticisms, but I notice from your KBID number that you have also learned the upside of doing them, too. ;) Keep up the good work.
 
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Hjalmarg1 said:
rsk7 said:
He mentions needing thin UV filter preferably with double threading so lens caps stay on. But he doesn't recommend any.

Anyone know which brands/models work without adding to the vignette?

B+W MRC Nano works really well for me.

Graham..I liked the review, a great job. I actually sold my 16-35mm f/2.8 II and bought the new offering. After owning in the past 17-40mm f4L, 10-22mm and 16-35 f2.8L II, I can also say this is the sharpest wide open from center to borders and also allow to share all my 77mm filters that I couldn't do it with my f2.8L II.
This is fast an accurate and I could get sharp pictures at 1/5 s without forcing too much.

Thanks! Glad you could find it useful.

Great to hear your thoughts on the 16-35 2.8!

Graham
 
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magic koala said:
Thank you, I found the review very informative and useful. I have the 17-40mm and I appreciate your findings that it is still a solid performer. This means I can hold off of the 16-35mm f/4 and save for another lens or camera. I did not find your tshirt or intro distracting. You put a lot of time and effort in your video and that is appreciated.

Thanks for being constructive unlike some posters.

Thanks! I'm glad that you could find it useful. :)

Graham
 
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TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
Graham - thanks for taking the time to do such a thorough review of the lens. I have learned that doing reviews always opens you up to criticisms, but I notice from your KBID number that you have also learned the upside of doing them, too. ;) Keep up the good work.

Hey Dustin, thanks!

Looking at your review now, looks great.

What's a KBID number? :)

Graham
 
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Thanks once again for yet another excellent, beyond-the-scope-of-majority-homosapien-photographic-mental-capacity, thorough, insightful, helpful and professional review Graham.

PS: By all means continue to wear white t-shirts (on hot sunny days its one way of keeping cool) -> the moment you wear white pants, white cowboy boots and a white cowboy hat WITH a white t-shirt (and white shades) is the time comments from the peanut gallery might warrant passing over one of your reviews ;)
 
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rsk7 said:
He mentions needing thin UV filter preferably with double threading so lens caps stay on. But he doesn't recommend any.

Anyone know which brands/models work without adding to the vignette?

I can recommend the Hoya HD line of filters. They are very slim, don't do any vignetting and they work with the standard lens cap. AFAIK you need a special lens cap for the B+W slim filters.
 
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Khalai said:
Steb said:
AFAIK you need a special lens cap for the B+W slim filters.

You don't actually. I'm using XS line of B+W Clear 007 filters on my lenses and lens caps are holding just fine.


+1 I also use the XS line. For the 16-35 f/4 I use : B+W 77mm 010 UV MRC Nano xS-Pro Digital E Filter


The slimfilter is very thin. I am not sure if the lenscap will have enough grip to be attached on to the slimfilter. I do not use the slimfilter.
 
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expatinasia said:
grahamclarkphoto said:
expatinasia said:
grahamclarkphoto said:
expatinasia said:
Stopped watching after a few seconds. A photographer that uses a white background while wearing a white and blue t-shirt, and is himself very pale white. Weird. All far too bright, I would need sunglasses to watch that.

And not even a few seconds of intro to ease you into the video.

I will stick to TDP for my reviews as Bryan knows what he is doing.

Wasn't focusing on the t-shirt this time around, rather the lens

My comment had nothing to do with your choice of t-shirt. Seriously?! That's what you took from my comment. lol.

Choosing a bright white background like that is not wise. Plus you need a 2 or 3 second intro of something.

Very poor video, and I personally would not take any camera advice from someone that produces someone like that about a camera product.

Oh no... I'm heartbroken ;D

Graham

You seem to have a problem taking constructive criticism.

Please stop.
 
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grahamclarkphoto said:
infared said:
Thanks for the review. You validate my purchase from my latest G.A.S. attack. LOL! (actually...I was able to purchase this lens & filter for what I sold my 16-35mm f/2.8 II & 82mm B+W filter for. So the new lens did not cost me anything. Canon did a nice job at keeping the price reasonable on the new lens).
I chose the B+W 77mm XS-Pro CLEAR MRC-Nano 010M Filter...and I am not noticing any increased vignetting.

Thanks! Glad you could find it useful.

How do you find the sharpness between the 16-35 F4 and the 16-35 2.8?

Graham

I find the sharpness much better across the whole image...and further the contrast is greatly improved which ads to the overall better IQ. I just go out with more coincidence when using this lens...That means a lot to my enjoyment of the image-making process! ;D
 
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