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Bert63

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Supermodel.

He made me call him Fabio...

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You lucky guys with those great shots of interesting birds! On yet another daily walk at the end of the day the only bird around aside from the odd pigeon and crow was a European Robin in the middle of a tree singing his heart out. I did see a mallard this morning. But the Robin is England's favourite bird. I used the centre spot focus at 560mm.

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AlanF

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That guy would be frozen in the ice if he were here! :) So you're enjoying the R5?

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Very much. It's a really nice camera to handle and its AF is a joy. It immediately latched on to the eye of the duck. Just wish I could put the 500mm PF on it - it's just as sharp and contrasty and weighs so much less than the 400mm DO II.
 

tron

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Tufted Duck. R5 + 400mm DO II + 1.4xTC. I notice the extra weight of the lens over my shoulder compared with the 100-400.
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It is nice that I have the lens already so you cannot … tempt me! :D
But truth be told D850 and D500 with 500PF are superb. I recently shot with D850+500PF+1.4EIII combination and the result was very good.
 

Jack Douglas

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Very much. It's a really nice camera to handle and its AF is a joy. It immediately latched on to the eye of the duck. Just wish I could put the 500mm PF on it - it's just as sharp and contrasty and weighs so much less than the 400mm DO II.
From all accounts you're a 100-400 II fan so you're already set, no?

Jack
 

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It is nice that I have the lens already so you cannot … tempt me! :D
But truth be told D850 and D500 with 500PF are superb. I recently shot with D850+500PF+1.4EIII combination and the result was very good.
Sorry for the long post, but it’s in case anyone is deliberating about lenses. I have embarras de richesse for my style of nature photography as I have more than enough gear to keep me more than happy, and would be only a little less happy without the redundancy. My priorities are first it has to be light enough for someone of my age to go out hiking with. Secondly it has to give adequately sharp, well-resolved and focussed images. And, thirdly, I can take distant birds and close up ones, and insects. To be honest, my 5DSR, which is now my Canon back up body (and my wife uses), and 100-400mm II plus 1.4xTC still meet our needs in the main and I would cheerfully take the pair on my next trip abroad. The R5 near enough matches the 5DSR for resolution and it is more versatile for BIF and pairs really well with the 100-400mm II and I can use it at 800mm. The Nikon D850 or 500 with the 500PF also pass the weight test. I get sharper images than with the zoom, especially close up. With the minimum focal distance of 3m, I usually get better images of dragonflies and butterflies with the 500PF than with 100-400 closer up, and apart from the tracking. It is as good as the R5 for BIF at 500mm but not at 700mm because the DSLR focusses slowly at f/8 when the 1.4xTC is on the f/5.6 500mm - the R5's AF is a killer at f/8. The 500PF has the edge on sharpness for distant small birds, especially with the 1.4xTC. So, I am very happy taking the Nikon pair on a days hike or on safari. The 400mm DO II catches up on the sharpness and focusses brilliantly at 800mm f/8 on the R5. However, I haven't decided yet on whether to keep the 400mm DO II. The difference in weight is just enough to make a difference. The R5 + 400 DO + lenscoat is 3.25 kg and 3.5 kg with the 1.4xTC. The D850 with the 500PF and lenscoat is 2.8 kg. Put the 2xTC on the 400 and the weight goes up to 3.6 kg, and with the 1.4TC on the 500, it's 3 kg. So, it's an extra 0.6 kg or so carrying the Canon prime pair vs the Nikon full frame for similar resolution. I am going to test the 400mm DO II for BIF on the R5. If it is much better the 100-400mm II, then I'll keep for special days out but not for general use.
 

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Alan I agree with the redundancy you mention (the only issue being the decision making each time - at least for me).

I too have kept my 400 DO II. Since you can afford it maybe you could keep it for many years for these occasions where you do not have to take long hikes like when shooting from home or going by car to bird hides. I see nothing wrong with that.

EDIT: The close shooting IQ with the Nikons + 500mmPF is indeed superb!
 
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Sorry for the long post, but it’s in case anyone is deliberating about lenses. I have embarras de richesse for my style of nature photography as I have more than enough gear to keep me more than happy, and would be only a little less happy without the redundancy. My priorities are first it has to be light enough for someone of my age to go out hiking with. Secondly it has to give adequately sharp, well-resolved and focussed images. And, thirdly, I can take distant birds and close up ones, and insects. To be honest, my 5DSR, which is now my Canon back up body (and my wife uses), and 100-400mm II plus 1.4xTC still meet our needs in the main and I would cheerfully take the pair on my next trip abroad. The R5 near enough matches the 5DSR for resolution and it is more versatile for BIF and pairs really well with the 100-400mm II and I can use it at 800mm. The Nikon D850 or 500 with the 500PF also pass the weight test. I get sharper images than with the zoom, especially close up. With the minimum focal distance of 3m, I usually get better images of dragonflies and butterflies with the 500PF than with 100-400 closer up, and apart from the tracking. It is as good as the R5 for BIF at 500mm but not at 700mm because the DSLR focusses slowly at f/8 when the 1.4xTC is on the f/5.6 500mm - the R5's AF is a killer at f/8. The 500PF has the edge on sharpness for distant small birds, especially with the 1.4xTC. So, I am very happy taking the Nikon pair on a days hike or on safari. The 400mm DO II catches up on the sharpness and focusses brilliantly at 800mm f/8 on the R5. However, I haven't decided yet on whether to keep the 400mm DO II. The difference in weight is just enough to make a difference. The R5 + 400 DO + lenscoat is 3.25 kg and 3.5 kg with the 1.4xTC. The D850 with the 500PF and lenscoat is 2.8 kg. Put the 2xTC on the 400 and the weight goes up to 3.6 kg, and with the 1.4TC on the 500, it's 3 kg. So, it's an extra 0.6 kg or so carrying the Canon prime pair vs the Nikon full frame for similar resolution. I am going to test the 400mm DO II for BIF on the R5. If it is much better the 100-400mm II, then I'll keep for special days out but not for general use.
Would you consider replacing you Nikon D850 camera with Nikon Z (6 or 7)? I think it's time for me to get rid of Canon 5D m4 (which I love, btw) and replace it with something lighter and smaller. R5 is the most natural choice, of course, but while it is still unavailable for indefinite time in our part of the world, I'm also looking at Sony a9/7 and Nikon Z.
 

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Would you consider replacing you Nikon D850 camera with Nikon Z (6 or 7)? I think it's time for me to get rid of Canon 5D m4 (which I love, btw) and replace it with something lighter and smaller. R5 is the most natural choice, of course, but while it is still unavailable for indefinite time in our part of the world, I'm also looking at Sony a9/7 and Nikon Z.
The Z6 and Z7 are excellent cameras. However, like the original R, they are not up there with good tracking for bird photography. The version IIs that have just been released are supposed to be better but I haven't come across a review yet by someone I trust to comment.
 
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Jack Douglas

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Alan I agree with the redundancy you mention (the only issue being the decision making each time - at least for me).

I too have kept my 400 DO II. Since you can afford it maybe you could keep it for many years for these occasions where you do not have to take long hikes like when shooting from home or going by car to bird hides. I see nothing wrong with that.

EDIT: The close shooting IQ with the Nikons + 500mmPF is indeed superb!
Since I presently don't mind hiking with the 1Dx2 and the DO II, from all I'm hearing it sounds like the R5 paired with it should be great. That's why I've been keeping my eyes open for comments regarding how well the R5 does at totally replacing the 1DX2. I'm wondering if the EF 70-200 with 1.4X would fill the gap for closer situations such that I wouldn't need to spend on something like the 100 - 500. Not having zoom capability with the 400 is certainly a drawback as is it's poor close focusing for butterflies etc.

Jack
 

tron

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Since I presently don't mind hiking with the 1Dx2 and the DO II, from all I'm hearing it sounds like the R5 paired with it should be great. That's why I've been keeping my eyes open for comments regarding how well the R5 does at totally replacing the 1DX2. I'm wondering if the EF 70-200 with 1.4X would fill the gap for closer situations such that I wouldn't need to spend on something like the 100 - 500. Not having zoom capability with the 400 is certainly a drawback as is it's poor close focusing for butterflies etc.

Jack
Hello Jack. My only reservation is focusing speed with the 2XIII. I was about to test it but then something happened that had priority and I lost the light today. I was not impressed with focusing speed INSIDE the house. This is NOT going to make me reject it since the real test would be outdoors with decent light and limited focusing range, although the full range is useful for ... "surprises".
 

Jack Douglas

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Hello Jack. My only reservation is focusing speed with the 2XIII. I was about to test it but then something happened that had priority and I lost the light today. I was not impressed with focusing speed INSIDE the house. This is NOT going to make me reject it since the real test would be outdoors with decent light and limited focusing range, although the full range is useful for ... "surprises".
That is a concern for sure. The 1DX2 mechanically has the speed but from what I can understand so far, it misses more optical focus than the R5, presumably that relates to the power of the battery. I've become pretty attached to 400 X2 for the little critters.

Jack
 

tron

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Hoping for a D880 with D6 like driving and focusing capabilities :cool: ... to put behind my 500mmPF +1.4X combo :D
 

Bert63

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Some Buffles I’m pretty happy with. Got the colors somewhat without killing the highlights too much. One of these may be a repost but I’m not sure so what the heck.

The water was gorgeous and this was right around sunrise.

Criticism appreciated.

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