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mdmphoto

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I thought I'd upload some shots to show how good the eyeAF on the R5 is - they are just to illustrate how the camera is able to locate the head of a distant bird that is just visible to the naked eye and partly obscured. They are from the 400mm f/4 with a 2xTC at 800mm and 1/800s. There are screenshots of the full image in DPP4 showing the red square of focus of the bird and the crops upsized 1.4x in Topaz Gigapixel as they are so small - pushing the lens to its limits. View attachment 195550 View attachment 195551 View attachment 195552 View attachment 195556 View attachment 195557 View attachment 195558
PLEASE Stop Already! (I'm already working hard to find things to sell, trying to be Extra Good around the house, and eating out of cans trying to put together the cash to move up to an R5!)
Beautiful photos, By the Way!
 
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ISO64

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First time for me here in Bird Portraits (for years). Now time to show some R5 shots.
Have these two to share:
1. Kingfisher - approx. 20m distance. R5 w. RF100-500mm + 1.4x TC. @ 700mm, 1/1250s, f/10, ISO 3200. I Like the bird's choice of perch in same colours.
2. Hawfinch in my backyard (taken through double glass window). Same gear @ 700mm, 1/320s, f/10, ISO 2500.
Sofar I am very happy with shift to mirror-less and R5 performance.

One thing that makes me wonder: Shooting through glass from my living-room is just fine (angle somewhat downwards). Shooting through similar (though a little older) glass from basement-level always produce unsharp photos (angle almost level). Very consistent phenomenon. Was the same for DSLR - and did not change with mirror-less.
Any explanations to offer?
If you really want to compare camera and lens performance with two windows, detach one of them on the hinges and put it next to the other one. Make them parallel and shoot the newspaper placed on the tree. Likely, the difference in window glass pane will be obvious. Your and mine eyes are not much affected as the photo will be. I think that the explanation is ratio of glass defect period vs. pupil diameter. We look through pencil size diameter straw and glass is sufficiently flat not to affect image sharpness. Lens picks all waviness in glass over its large pupil diameter.
Had similar problem with clear filter dia 77 on my lens, no sharp image regardless of AF microadjustment. Yet, same filter placed in front of 28 mm lens was fine.
All the best!
 
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ISv

"The equipment that matters, is you"
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Few shots of Yellow-fronted Canary. And White Tern sitting on egg.

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Jack Douglas

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PLEASE Stop Already! (I'm already working hard to find things to sell, trying to be Extra Good around the house, and eating out of cans trying to put together the cash to move up to an R5!)
Beautiful photos, By the Way!

Hang in there, I'm doing much the same. Just tell yourself that with the conditions in the world at the moment there really is no need for a new camera and put your energies into planning how you're going to use it when there is. ;)


It is much easier to suppress a first desire than to satisfy those that follow.


Benjamin Franklin


Jack
 
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Jack Douglas

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I've been very busy doing a job that got started 6 years ago so I have to thank the virus for that. I didn't notice that CR notices were not coming so I've fixed that AGAIN - why do I always have this happening to me!!:confused: No matter, being so busy helps suppress GAS and once the job is complete gives fuel to the "I deserve a reward", argument. (R5)

I'll now go back and look over the great photos I've missed.

Jack
 

ISv

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Hang in there, I'm doing much the same. Just tell yourself that with the conditions in the world at the moment there really is no need for a new camera and put your energies into planning how you're going to use it when there is. ;)


It is much easier to suppress a first desire than to satisfy those that follow.


Benjamin Franklin


Jack
I hope it works for you, not sure for some other guys... Honestly it's a combo that makes me (first time!!!) thinking about adding one more system to my backpack or simply switching... On other hand - there is regularly something popping up that makes you jealous (and your pockets lighter:) and it could be significantly lighter:confused:!) . Any way - that's the new (not so new actually - at all!) trend in photography but I'm comparing it with the old good times when you buy a good camera/lens(es) and you are practically done (ha, ha - you stupid you just think so:ROFLMAO: - at least in my case!).
 

Jack Douglas

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ISv, as humans we seem to be very motivated to "keep up with the Jones". Now the A1 came out I'm wondering what the R1 might bring given that I've kind of fallen for the 1 series while being totally dissatisfied with its resolution. The R5 is beyond what I ever expected so what rationale is there for looking beyond when I don't even make a living with this stuff?! Even I can answer that - Nada.:( Maybe it's Alan's bad influence on me.;) Or mine on him? :)
 
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SteveC

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PLEASE Stop Already! (I'm already working hard to find things to sell, trying to be Extra Good around the house, and eating out of cans trying to put together the cash to move up to an R5!)
Beautiful photos, By the Way!

It's not bad unless you're eating Ramen for a month.

And I've often said I'd be doing that after buying either an expensive coin or (more recently) gear.
 
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ISv

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".... so what rationale is there for looking beyond when I don't even make a living with this stuff?! Even I can answer that - Nada."
No rationale Jack: we are just old guys who are stuck to their toys! Well, there is also the competitive element but you did say it well in your post: as an amateurs we spend money for the new toys! Pros are getting that small or whatever advantage they are looking for to beat the concurrence and get a profit! It's more complicated off course but I'm sure you know what I mean.
On other hand taking photos is the way for me to escape from the problems in my job - when you are doing research there are always problems - you are stepping in nowhere, and it's the goal in the research actually: nobody has done it before and you may contribute with something really new (and you get the new grant...)! We are doing very well so far, much better then others but it's a stress! Taking photos when I can is the way I relax. Unfortunately not every photo makes me "relax" :))) - I want GOOD photos, at least for my criteria! The new instruments are really helping (for those who can take the advantage of them!) more or less...
So far this "medicine" is working for me - to kill the stress or part of it... and to move further.
 

AlanF

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".... so what rationale is there for looking beyond when I don't even make a living with this stuff?! Even I can answer that - Nada."
No rationale Jack: we are just old guys who are stuck to their toys! Well, there is also the competitive element but you did say it well in your post: as an amateurs we spend money for the new toys! Pros are getting that small or whatever advantage they are looking for to beat the concurrence and get a profit! It's more complicated off course but I'm sure you know what I mean.
On other hand taking photos is the way for me to escape from the problems in my job - when you are doing research there are always problems - you are stepping in nowhere, and it's the goal in the research actually: nobody has done it before and you may contribute with something really new (and you get the new grant...)! We are doing very well so far, much better then others but it's a stress! Taking photos when I can is the way I relax. Unfortunately not every photo makes me "relax" :))) - I want GOOD photos, at least for my criteria! The new instruments are really helping (for those who can take the advantage of them!) more or less...
So far this "medicine" is working for me - to kill the stress or part of it... and to move further.things
Well put. I have always needed an unrelated unstressful hobby to help me unwind from my research. And I like doing things in the company of others without competition but being part of a community who enjoy doing something for the sake of it.
 

AlanF

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The sun was shining and a Song Thrush was singing away. This time, it wasn't obscured by a twig, the weak morning sun was on it, I was closer, and I had 800mm on the R5. It was ridiculous. I clocked up 750 shots on an hours walk because of the fast burst speed and discarded about 725 to keep the very best. I do find it tiring to hold the 400mm DO II +2xTC pointing up for a length of time and the 100-500 or 100-400 are so much easier. Both are 100% crops from the centre.

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usern4cr

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I hope it works for you, not sure for some other guys... Honestly it's a combo that makes me (first time!!!) thinking about adding one more system to my backpack or simply switching... On other hand - there is regularly something popping up that makes you jealous (and your pockets lighter:) and it could be significantly lighter:confused:!) . Any way - that's the new (not so new actually - at all!) trend in photography but I'm comparing it with the old good times when you buy a good camera/lens(es) and you are practically done (ha, ha - you stupid you just think so:ROFLMAO: - at least in my case!).
Yes, the combination of old age (unfortunately that means me) and hunkering down which avoids travel costs has left me with some serious GAS. After I've given my Olympus gear to my brother (a good deed in it's own right) and invested in the R5 & RF lenses I've even (dare I say it) been looking at the Olympus 150-400 f4.5 TC1.25X pro lens as a possible all-in-one travel birding/cat-ing & closeup flower/insect lens that goes from (FF EQ) 300 to 800mm @ f9 (or to 1000mm @ ~f11) & 0.58x max mag. But I'd have to get one of their not-cutting-edge bodies with smaller sensor and fewer AF points so animal eye AF might be much poorer (?). Having used an EM1_II with DXO PL4, I know it can do it's magic on the smaller & grainier files to make for some beautiful photos. They may not be what a R5 or big white lens delivers, but it'd be a single lens without lens changing for the times when you just want to hike with a single lens for those purposes, or maybe also take the R5 with a single zoom for wide/normal range photos.

It'll be fun to see the photos it gives from real people and how the IQ compares with their 300mm f4 pro lens, which I have to say is superb. Now if Canon would come out with a similar RF lens with similar specs it'd be awesome, but realistically having that whole lens train in a FF version would make it far too heavy, unfortunately. So maybe there's room to have a smaller format camera with just 1 lens to complement the FF magic that Canon can provide in the other ranges? Of course, there's no point in actually getting something like that until I see the new RF tele lenses Canon comes out with, and then I'll probably be so amazed at what they can do that I'll forget about the smaller format option. Who knows?

For now, I'll enjoy what the RF 100-500mm f4.5-7.1L lens can do. When you consider the ability to crop in post, at say 2x for to up 1000mm ~f14 in a 11 MP file, I'm sure Canon's superb animal eye detect & PL4 can work it's magic to make it pretty darn good for a single zoom lens! ;)
 
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The sun was shining and a Song Thrush was singing away. This time, it wasn't obscured by a twig, the weak morning sun was on it, I was closer, and I had 800mm on the R5. It was ridiculous. I clocked up 750 shots on an hours walk because of the fast burst speed and discarded about 725 to keep the very best. I do find it tiring to hold the 400mm DO II +2xTC pointing up for a length of time and the 100-500 or 100-400 are so much easier. Both are 100% crops from the centre.

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Those are really beautiful shots, AlanF. Were you using a RF 800mm f11 lens, or the 400 DOII & 2xTC? I've got the RF 800 f11 lens and really enjoyed how lightweight and easy to use it is, but didn't think it could produce high IQ shots like you just did.

Out of curiosity, do you use full or 1st curtain electronic shutter? Single or continuous shooting? cRaw or Raw?
I've come to use one back button for spot AF and another for animal eye AF and that's working pretty well for me. Do you do something similar?
I'm always interested in possible ways to make using the R5 easier & better.
 
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