Skipping the 5D-s. What do you want in 5D4?
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I will buy the 5D MKIV if it has:
1. Same of better DR as Nikon D810
2. Around 30MP
3. Maybe something that will help work with MF glass
4. AF and ISO - can be same or improves vs 5D MKIII
5. 5-6 FPS is perfectly fine
6. No video is perfectly fine
7. Shutter sound as in Nikon
A nicer looking camera.
1. Same of better DR as Nikon D810
2. Around 30MP
3. Maybe something that will help work with MF glass
4. AF and ISO - can be same or improves vs 5D MKIII
5. 5-6 FPS is perfectly fine
6. No video is perfectly fine
7. Shutter sound as in Nikon
A nicer looking camera.
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I am reading many of the replies or statements of wants and needs and it seems that in many regards, the Sony A7r fills the bill, particularly for the crowd that doesn't really need fast (or any) AF or much in the way of FPS. That seems to be a happy medium as one can retain Canon glass versus a switch to the D800/D810 family which would mean a likely switch to the Nikkor family of lenses.
The A7r can comfortably handle 40x60 in. prints so while 50MP is nice, it isn't even a requirement for most landscape photographers' needs.
For those that are using the A7r with Canon glass, what are your experiences and pitfalls?
Cheers,
Ted
The A7r can comfortably handle 40x60 in. prints so while 50MP is nice, it isn't even a requirement for most landscape photographers' needs.
For those that are using the A7r with Canon glass, what are your experiences and pitfalls?
Cheers,
Ted
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LOL, I feel the heat already.
I am pretty good w/ the 7DII feature set, but with a 16mp sensor that is uber low light/ DR.
So the product line would look something like.
Low Light shooter - 5dIV
Generalist 5dIII
Studio/Landscape 5d S/R
Sports full frame 1dx 1 & 2
Some handling items listed in other posts would be nice, but the differentiator - High ISO
I am pretty good w/ the 7DII feature set, but with a 16mp sensor that is uber low light/ DR.
So the product line would look something like.
Low Light shooter - 5dIV
Generalist 5dIII
Studio/Landscape 5d S/R
Sports full frame 1dx 1 & 2
Some handling items listed in other posts would be nice, but the differentiator - High ISO
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I dont shoot video
DR equal to 810
5 to 7 frames
36MP
AF as in the 7dm2
$2800 USD
AF & ISO a step above the 5dmk3
DR equal to 810
5 to 7 frames
36MP
AF as in the 7dm2
$2800 USD
AF & ISO a step above the 5dmk3
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AF as good as 7DMKII
8FPS+
24MP is fine enough
Dual cards
Rugged, Weatherproof Magnesium Alloy Body
HighISO capabilities
3500USD
This does sound like a smaller sized 1DX which isnt a bad idea at all, priced at double that of 7DmarkII it will not eat into its market. I don't shoot Video. Canon gave the studio guys what they wanted. Maybe the photojournalists too should get something
8FPS+
24MP is fine enough
Dual cards
Rugged, Weatherproof Magnesium Alloy Body
HighISO capabilities
3500USD
This does sound like a smaller sized 1DX which isnt a bad idea at all, priced at double that of 7DmarkII it will not eat into its market. I don't shoot Video. Canon gave the studio guys what they wanted. Maybe the photojournalists too should get something
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In order of priority
- Improved DR
- Improved ISO
- Slight increase in mp 26 to 30
- AF linked spot metering
- Interface same as 7DII
Thanks Canon !
- Improved DR
- Improved ISO
- Slight increase in mp 26 to 30
- AF linked spot metering
- Interface same as 7DII
Thanks Canon
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i would like real innovative stuff, like a hybrid evf/ovf (i absolutely love how easy it is to get the picture i want with mirrorless cameras in challenging lighting) but sadly canon won´t do that (yet).
so, here´s my list
- better dynamic range and overall sensor quality. (lifting the shadows 4 stops on a D750 - no problem, lifting the shadows 4 stops on my 5d 3....uaaaaah no)
- better high iso (always welcome)
- better autofocus tracking
- dual memors cards where the sd card doesnt slow down the camera
- programmable auto-iso like 5Ds
- and canon please, dont change the body, ergonomics or anything else, its perfectly fine, just update the electronics to 2015 standards. thanks.
so, here´s my list
- better dynamic range and overall sensor quality. (lifting the shadows 4 stops on a D750 - no problem, lifting the shadows 4 stops on my 5d 3....uaaaaah no)
- better high iso (always welcome)
- better autofocus tracking
- dual memors cards where the sd card doesnt slow down the camera
- programmable auto-iso like 5Ds
- and canon please, dont change the body, ergonomics or anything else, its perfectly fine, just update the electronics to 2015 standards. thanks.
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My guess is that FPS may stay at 6 as moving much beyond that would potentially start to cut into the 1DX market even if the 1DX mk2 gets even faster.
There seems quite a bit of room for other improvements, maybe AF that will also be on the 1DX mk2, 4K video, a bit of a resolution boost, dual pixel AF, perhaps even the often rumoured hybrid viewfinder with the ability to switch between EVF and OVF or a tillable screen?
There seems quite a bit of room for other improvements, maybe AF that will also be on the 1DX mk2, 4K video, a bit of a resolution boost, dual pixel AF, perhaps even the often rumoured hybrid viewfinder with the ability to switch between EVF and OVF or a tillable screen?
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zim said:
I agree with your list, but it's not enough for me to drop £6K on a pair of cameras to replace my existing 5DIII's.
The DR is important. The AF is already excellent, but I'd like to see the same face and colour tracking the 7DII and 1DX have. I'd like a bump in fps, not fussed with the increase in MP. An interchangeable fine focus view screen has been noticeably missing on the 5DIII. it's really helpful with the 85 f1.2 II L. I'd like to see MP4 option in movie mode, the current .Mov file is pants and I seem to spend a lot of my life transcoding into a useful format. A little better weather sealing, erm....I'm struggling here because the 5DIII is such a fine camera.
Maybe a button which directs more high paying customers my way? No? Though not.....
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Less Noise when lifting shadows 1-2 stops improvement on 5DMkiii
36mp with 1.3 and 1.6 Crop modes
Better low and high ISO noise
Intervalometer and Timelapse Software like 5DS/R
Under $3500
I pretty much want a D810.
If it turns out the 5DS/R as well as the MKIV hasn't improved the banding issue when lifting shadows there is a possibility that I buy a Nikon D810 and use both systems especially since I already own a Nikon 14-24mm.
So it would be Nikon for 14-24, 24-70 and Canon 70mm and above.
I don't care about being loyal to a system other than saving myself frustration but shooting Sunsets and Sunrises would be so much nicer if there was a Stop or 2 more versatility.
36mp with 1.3 and 1.6 Crop modes
Better low and high ISO noise
Intervalometer and Timelapse Software like 5DS/R
Under $3500
I pretty much want a D810.
If it turns out the 5DS/R as well as the MKIV hasn't improved the banding issue when lifting shadows there is a possibility that I buy a Nikon D810 and use both systems especially since I already own a Nikon 14-24mm.
So it would be Nikon for 14-24, 24-70 and Canon 70mm and above.
I don't care about being loyal to a system other than saving myself frustration but shooting Sunsets and Sunrises would be so much nicer if there was a Stop or 2 more versatility.
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In Order or importance to me:
- Improved High ISO performance
- More Megapixels (36mp w/ Crop mode)
- 13.5 stop min Dynamic Range at its lowest ISO (50 hopefully)
- Dual Optical + Electronic VF
- 7-8 FPS, 20 shots before buffer runs out
- AF points can be the same but all points able to spot meter
- Touch Screen to pinch and zoom to check focus faster
- In Body Image Stabilization (possible in live view only)
- Built in Flash (mostly used as a trigger or when in a desperate pinch)
- Improved High ISO performance
- More Megapixels (36mp w/ Crop mode)
- 13.5 stop min Dynamic Range at its lowest ISO (50 hopefully)
- Dual Optical + Electronic VF
- 7-8 FPS, 20 shots before buffer runs out
- AF points can be the same but all points able to spot meter
- Touch Screen to pinch and zoom to check focus faster
- In Body Image Stabilization (possible in live view only)
- Built in Flash (mostly used as a trigger or when in a desperate pinch)
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well
honestly since i do like shooting actions/sports and etc
8-10fps
1080p 24-60fps with 4k video
DPAF that can also take efs lens eg: 18-135 stm and 24-105 stm lens
GPS/WIFI
touchscreen "even though after using and owning a 7d2 im used too manual buttons
dual card slots SD & CF
headphone jack and clean HDMI UNCOMPRESSED OUT
Usb 3.0
honestly since i do like shooting actions/sports and etc
8-10fps
1080p 24-60fps with 4k video
DPAF that can also take efs lens eg: 18-135 stm and 24-105 stm lens
GPS/WIFI
touchscreen "even though after using and owning a 7d2 im used too manual buttons
dual card slots SD & CF
headphone jack and clean HDMI UNCOMPRESSED OUT
Usb 3.0
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Just take the handicapping off the Mkiii would be a good start.
To get a decent shutter from Canon you either have to have a 1/6 crop of pay for the 1dx.
Nikon have had full frame full shutter speed cameras with all focus points since 2012 for the same price as Canons offerings.
Why do canon handicap top range cameras ? they are on their own with this.
6fps ? in 2015 ?
Come off it.
To get a decent shutter from Canon you either have to have a 1/6 crop of pay for the 1dx.
Nikon have had full frame full shutter speed cameras with all focus points since 2012 for the same price as Canons offerings.
Why do canon handicap top range cameras ? they are on their own with this.
6fps ? in 2015 ?
Come off it.
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I agree with Mark 99.
For a 5D4 Canon need to unhandicap the 5D Mark III.
10 FPS would be no issue for a new camera if they really wanted to do it.
The video too I'd say is handicapped.
In other characteristics
A better ISO performance would be great.
A higher megapixel to match or exceed D810 would be essential for their marketing (else a much better pixel quality). It has to clearly produce better pictures than it's competitors.
Not sure if they can even do it but better dynamic range ability would be a winner.
It would be great to have a 20x zoom but a clearer sharper image to manually adjust.
It should have a built in intervalometer.
I like the fact the level can be seen through the view piece on the 7D Mark II.
Some of those gimicky photo options like minature would be an easy addition
An ability to remote control the camera by a phone app.
A spare button to program what you like to it would be good.
Easy peasy Canon its not even pushing the boat out too far.
For a 5D4 Canon need to unhandicap the 5D Mark III.
10 FPS would be no issue for a new camera if they really wanted to do it.
The video too I'd say is handicapped.
In other characteristics
A better ISO performance would be great.
A higher megapixel to match or exceed D810 would be essential for their marketing (else a much better pixel quality). It has to clearly produce better pictures than it's competitors.
Not sure if they can even do it but better dynamic range ability would be a winner.
It would be great to have a 20x zoom but a clearer sharper image to manually adjust.
It should have a built in intervalometer.
I like the fact the level can be seen through the view piece on the 7D Mark II.
Some of those gimicky photo options like minature would be an easy addition
An ability to remote control the camera by a phone app.
A spare button to program what you like to it would be good.
Easy peasy Canon its not even pushing the boat out too far.
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