The Canon EOS R5c is coming in Q1 2022 [CR3]

[Phillips88]

Somebody here is going to either suddenly vanish or dismiss your comment saying your experience is not “repeatable, not authoritative and you don’t list the firmware used” :-/

I thank you for that feedback. Regarding video, according to many users, an external recorder like the ninja should allow you to go well over the timer issue. The question is for how long, mileage seems to vary

Unfortunately everyone has their special opinion ever since the invention of the keyboard...

FOR THOSE PEEPS THO… it’s the firmware that provided clog 3 and 1080p 120fps. Don’t remember the number

The ninja V definitely increases the record times by quite a bit. Pretty much giving unlimited 4K60 and I believe 4KHQ. But that’s with no internal recording. New life made a video on it. My results were basically the same. Been a minute tho. Just not practical for hybrid shooting.

Overall, the R5 should absolutely not be overheating in any 1080 modes and 4K60 internally. I totally get 4K120, 4KHQ, and 8K.

 

[dilbert]

Youtubers will hate it, no more overheating .
Yet, they are so inventive, they'll soon focus on another "issue"...

If there's active cooling then it means there is a fan and fans generate noise so...

 

[Bahrd]

It gets hot at the grip area. Uncomfortable enough that rotating to vertical to hold the battery grip is a relief. Enough to make one understand the concept of low-temperature burns. I shot some images with my phone using my Leupold LTO, which does not show absolute temps.
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The first impression is that the card is the "smoking gun" but it wasn't alarmingly hot more than the rest, and I suspect it just reflects interior temp, not the heat source.
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In a FLUKE camera I use there is an option to select the type of a material (plastic, metal, water, skin, etc.) so that it's temperature is adjusted with respect to it's emissivity.
Nevertheless, since the card looks "hot" it likely produces heat and emits it pretty well, I suppose.

 

[David - Sydney]

I’m having the same kind of hesitation but with a Sony A1 instead of the C70… But then if I enter an ecosystem I’ll be kind of stuck in it, so maybe I’ll just buy an R5 and then replace it with a r5c… I’m just totally afraid of the overheating issue, as I intend to shoot a lot of long form video in 4KHQ, even with a ninja it seems to overheat

I haven't tested it as I don't have a Ninja, but this looks interesting... basically turn off the rear LCD and the EVF and you get unlimited record times in 4KHQ. I assume that long form means you don't need to use IBIS or AF tracking.
It would be good to hear anyone else to duplicate this.

 

[foxfender]

Shot a wedding last Saturday. Used the R5 and 1dx3. Started around 3 and finished around 9. High temps around 90 and out in the sun. Ended up with over 11,000 photos and not one overheating issue. Both cameras were left on the entire time. Both cameras were warm, but it was in the 90's or high 80's the entire time.

What did you shoot with the R5?
Stills? 8K? 4KHQ? Standard 4K?

 

[foxfender]

I haven't tested it as I don't have a Ninja, but this looks interesting... basically turn off the rear LCD and the EVF and you get unlimited record times in 4KHQ. I assume that long form means you don't need to use IBIS or AF tracking.
It would be good to hear anyone else to duplicate this.

I saw that video but why do you specifically refer to IBIS ans AF tracking? Would it change anything!?

 

[Kit.]

I wonder why people like you feel compelled to judge others without knowing ?

if I go with the A1 I’ll be in known territory as I’ve been shooting alpha cameras like the last one for years. If I go with the R5, well, I’ve been shooting canon for years too, and i still have plenty of time to test it before the shoot. And in any case, ill show up with a proper functioning gear, and a backup camera.

I’m charging for this job as I have been for 25 years, and all is well thanks. Now if you don’t have a specific advice on my specific question please refrain from commenting because I just don’t give any value to your judgmental comments.

Why don't you create your own thread for your specific question? Your posts obviously don't add anything useful for the topic of this thread, but create a lot of attention (and prejudice toward you) that you seem not to desire.

 

[Atlasman]

I haven't tested it as I don't have a Ninja, but this looks interesting... basically turn off the rear LCD and the EVF and you get unlimited record times in 4KHQ. I assume that long form means you don't need to use IBIS or AF tracking.
It would be good to hear anyone else to duplicate this.

I’ve done similar tests and concluded that the biggest contributor to heat is the internal recording. On one test, I used a dummy battery and the Ninja V for monitoring 4K CROP 60fps and recording to the internal SD card (LCD and EVF OFF). I began shooting clips and watched the record time go from 20:00 down to 3:00.

 

[landon]

OT. Speaking of the R5. I was in the shopping center (mall) today, and saw two young guys with a gimbal and an R5 in underslung-mode filming the other walking about. Was cool to see.

 

[reef58]

What did you shoot with the R5?
Stills? 8K? 4KHQ? Standard 4K?

Stills

 

[sanj]

Day long (8am -6pm) run and gun 4KHQ external Ninja recording. I know a proper cinema camera would better suit that need but I need to shoot quality stills as well :-(

At 4k I believe that you should be fine, but maybe rent a second R5 body for the day?

 

[reef58]

I do appreciate you trying to be of a help and especially this last message.
Im not bouncing from nobodies advice, I’m actually collecting as much faithful user experience and testimonies as I can and I tend to value them much more than any youtuber’s with millions of views who are probably tied with brands and are trying to please the mass.

but then again, even him uses the R5 in its lower capacities and chose to personally shoot the A1 as he said himself.

it’s not an easy choice at all if there is one to make between the two and for example @frjmacias here gave me very valuable info about the focus breathing issues I may encounter with some Sony glass than even make the choice harder.
I would definitely love to buy a proper cinema camera with cine lenses + a photography camera with photo lenses if i could but I have other priorities regarding how to spend the money so I’m just trying to make the best educated choice with those constraints.
Thank you anyway for chiming in and for your wishes of luck, I’ll certainly preciously keep them in heart and I do wish you all the very best as well

Actually it is an easy choice. If you prefer Sony go with Sony. If you prefer Canon go with Canon. There is no magic bullet between them to be discovered. Both are going to produce similar results. The difference will be your ability to make use of the tool you are using. I have no interest in Sony for a host of reasons but none of them relate to the ability of the Sony to produce an image.

Comparing gear and making purchase decisions can be fun, but if you have a gig coming up get what you want and get up to speed with the workings so it is second nature.

 

[DBounce]

So it looks like Canon is borrowing a page from Sony’s playbook. Sony released the A7S3 then later released the actively cooled cinema focused FX3… basically an A7S3 with no EVF and a fan. Honestly, I’ve never had any overheating issues with the A7S3; so I think the FX3 is a bit redundant. However, as a video shooter, I frequently ran into overheating problems with the R5, so if the R5C addresses these problems, it just might be a worthy release. I hope Canon utilizes a 16:9 rear LCD screen, as this camera is a “C” line camera. Timecode is also important, and is a no brainier on a cinema line model. It would be great to have VND, but I’m not sure that will happen. Built in wireless mic support would be excellent.
My only real complaint with the R5 was the overheating. I don’t think Canon should have pushed the video features so heavily, knowing utilizing them would cause overheating issues for many users. I’m thinking the R5C is the camera that Canon should have released in the first place.

 

[Fischer]

That said, I'm troubled by the heat of my R5 for still shooting. On a warm day in a mostly shady back yard, I shot 192 still images in 16 minutes, following a 55 minute break after shooting a couple dozen images. That's 12 shots per minute.

It gets hot at the grip area. Uncomfortable enough that rotating to vertical to hold the battery grip is a relief. Enough to make one understand the concept of low-temperature burns. I shot some images with my phone using my Leupold LTO, which does not show absolute temps.

It shows the hot areas rear, with card extended, side, top and front.

The first impression is that the card is the "smoking gun" but it wasn't alarmingly hot more than the rest, and I suspect it just reflects interior temp, not the heat source.

This also happens with the R6 - however not to the point it becomes uncomfortable. But you can clearly feel the heat building up.

 

[Fischer]

Painful with yet another announcement that is not about the high MPIX "R". Hopeful impuls when I saw the headline.

 

[InchMetric]

As the poster of the heat images, I can say that I have kept the firmware updated. I may try a test with shooting only to the SD card to assess if it’s a faulty card, and may measure the surface temp best I can with a kitchen probe under a little pad, but plan to call Canon to assess if this is a warranty matter.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

I’m doing the job and I’m not renting, I’ll either buy the R5 trusting in can handle 4KHQ output all day long to a ninja or ill buy an A1.

This was on Sony Rumors and I suppose it would work for R5 as well.

Emin Kuliyev created this funny solution to avoid 8k overheating with the Sony A1 – sonyalpharumors

www.sonyalpharumors.com

 

[st jack photography]

Dear Canon:

Please stop releasing all this amazing, drool-inducing stuff like R3s and f2 zooms and focus on the replacement for the 5DSr. Please give us a BSI 100mp+ camera, preferably with a detachable, up-flipping viewfinder like the fuji GFx. The VF doesn't HAVE to be removable, but please have expanded viewing options for in-studio and tethered. Let us studio pros give some feedback. We have tons of ideas. The r3 body form was a step in the right direction for sure. Variable low-pass too please?

I LOVE my Canon gear, quite a fanboy, but honestly, the RP should be enough for video people for now. Get out the landscape and product cameras; get out the flagship R1; Don't worry about these camera peasants that want a camera that does stills and video and makes a great quiche and burps the baby. I mean, my car cracks walnuts but that doesn't make it the tool for the job. When I want walnuts, I use a nutcracker, and IF I did video, I would use an entry-level cine camera.

This is such a minor complaint overall that I tried to make this complaint as self-aware as possible, in that Canon is doing great, IMO. It is almost as if Canon has channeled that 1987 energy they had when they introduced the EOS/EF system and changed the camera world forever.

Keep it up Canon, just don't forget the MP monster that keeps getting delayed.

 

[SteveC]

I lot of people question how big a market there is for such a specialised birding camera but Canon (and other companies) have spent a lot of money on developing specific eye autofocus algorithms for birds so they probably think a significant number of people shoot birds.

Nah. The same algorithms work for reptiles, so its for people wanting to post cute internet pictures of their bearded dragon chasing blueberries or wearing a sweater.

 

[Skyscraperfan]

I remember that the Canon once had a 1D C, which was 1D X with better video features. It was MUCH more expensive than the 1D X. So if the R5c also is much more expensive than the R5, I wonder why people should buy it instead of the C70 for example, which only cost $5499,