The Canon EOS R6 Mark III is Canon’s Next Full-Frame Release

Indeed the battle for R6 MK3 will be both against the R6 MK2 and the R5 MK1. So it needs to bridge the gap in between these to cameras to be relevant, if not most people will choose their poison and choose the older model that suits the best their needs.

I really hope the R6 MK3 get an EVF similar to the R5 MK1. I'm sure they will not provide the R5 MK2 EVF.

And the R5 MK3 will most likely provide higher mp (to enhance the gap with the R6 MK3) and the new tilt screen.

I'd be fairly surprised if the 2020 R5 stays in Canon's catalog very long after the R6Mark III is released.
 
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Ive deliberately held off buying the R5 MKII to see whether the R6 MKIII has a higher MP sensor than the MKII. If the rumoured 32MP sensor turns out to be accurate then I think that's the sweet spot for a stills centric camera (much like the original EOS R). If so then I will not be buying the R5 MKII but I will hold onto the R5 and the R6MKII. What will likely go will be the R10.
 
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Some folks need readout speed for what hey shoot. Some folks do not need readout speed for what they shoot. Pay your money, make your choice.
Indeed, but since there is only one camera in a given price bracket, everyone gets stuck with the same trade-offs. I'm not a fan of trading off image quality & low light performance in the name of faster readout speeds. There are plenty of other cameras on the market that already have faster readouts.
 
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It is not true in every region, but Canon's 200-800 is cheaper than Sony's 200-600 here.
Yes, it did take a while for Canon to catch up, but Sony had a long head start.
The 200-800 is not a good competitor to the Sony 200-600. Canon stuck slow STM AF into it, the lens extends when zooming, and the optical performance past ~650mm is poor. It is often cheaper than the 200-600, but for good reason.
 
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The 200-800 is not a good competitor to the Sony 200-600. Canon stuck slow STM AF into it, the lens extends when zooming, and the optical performance past ~650mm is poor. It is often cheaper than the 200-600, but for good reason.
You’ve posted this nonsense before, yet you have never used the RF200-800mm lens. And you are wrong about the AF motor of the RF200-800mm lens.
Roger Cicala was and still is right when he said: “Sonyfanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy with other equipment. “
 
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You’ve posted this nonsense before, yet you have never used the RF200-800mm lens. And you are wrong about the AF motor of the RF200-800mm lens.
Roger Cicala was and still is right when he said: “Sonyfanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy with other equipment. “
I've used Canon in the past. And Nikon. And other brands. Currently I mostly own Sony, it is true. I bought Sony because they offer things that Canon refuses to. I don't think it's unreasonable to demand better when you're spending good money.

I don't know why Canon users seem terrified of demanding better and instead defend the corner-cutting and low-budget things that Canon does when still charging premium prices.
 
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@mimbu is a Sony fanboy, see my quote from Roger Cicala.
If it makes you happier to think that, go ahead.

Personally I want Canon to do better. And Nikon to do better. And Sony to do better. None of them are perfect.

Canon puts crappy AF motors into many of their lenses and sells "RF" super-teles that are just EF lenses with flanges. Worse, they sell the 800 and 1200 that are ridiculously the 400 and 600 with 2x TCs built in. "But they perform better than using the standard 2x extender" I hear you say. Then why didn't Canon just make & sell special 2x extenders for their 400 & 600? Charge $1k for them. Nope, gotta charge $20k for a lens with an extender permanently installed instead. SMH.

Nikon to their credit has been working on a lot of their issues. Their AF has gotten a LOT better, and the new ZR looks very promising as a start of a cine lineup. But they still won't allow Sigma onto FF Z, they seem to be terrified of them. They also limit Tamron. And of course many Z lenses still have STM AF, even a number of quite expensive S line lenses. There are various video issues as well. Nikon is also very bad about cutting corners to hit price points and has too many recalls. Lenses falling off cameras. Strap lugs falling out of cameras. The Z8 is made of plastic instead of a full magnesium frame. They've been working hard. If I was buying into mirrorless today from scratch, I would seriously consider a Z8 even with the issues.

Sony is fanatical about keeping their different cameras segmented. The upcoming A7V is almost certainly going to use the A7IV sensor and still be limited to 10fps because Sony will not put a faster sensor into their base FF camera, they will not allow it to get closer in performance to their higher end bodies. They won't give it better video features so it can't steal sales from the A7S series. They limit video features in their FX line to protect sales of higher end cine cameras. They won't/can't bring out something to compete with the Z8 or R5II because they're terrified it would cannibalize A1 sales. Sony is also very bad about firmware updates. They didn't used to be this way (original A9 got GREAT firmware updates) but in recent years they have not provided anywhere near the same level of firmware support as (for example) Nikon has done. Sony also charges the most for their cameras. Oh, and while Sony does let pretty much any 3rd party glass onto E, they limit it all to 15fps and do not allow teleconverters. They also don't support some forms of in-camera correction such as the useful focus breathing correction in video.

None of these brands are perfect. They all have areas to improve. This is a Canon forum so it would be weird for me to talk about Sony or Nikon shortcomings here. It's important to call out these makers and push for them to do better. They DO read the forums. Of course they don't always listen.

Things will get even more interesting when the Chinese start making cameras. That day is coming fast. The early ones will likely suck but they will improve very quickly. If the Japanese makers don't get their houses in order PDQ, things are going to get ugly.
 
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Canon obviously can do it, but I don't think they are minded to. They decided for whatever reason to omit the top lcd screen in the original R6, and a substantial redesign in subsequent iterations seems unlikely. Hope against reason leads to disappointment *shrug*
Well I kind of get it. It's a business over all and they want to make money. And there are probably very few people who would decide to buy Nikon over Canon just because of that top LCD. So it saves them money and they probably don't lose that many customers on it. And it may even convince few people to buy the R5 instead of the R6 (if they're on the fence).

I know not many people use it even on the R5, it's just a useful feature to me.
 
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If it makes you happier to think that, go ahead.

Personally I want Canon to do better. And Nikon to do better. And Sony to do better. None of them are perfect.

Canon puts crappy AF motors into many of their lenses and sells "RF" super-teles that are just EF lenses with flanges. Worse, they sell the 800 and 1200 that are ridiculously the 400 and 600 with 2x TCs built in. "But they perform better than using the standard 2x extender" I hear you say. Then why didn't Canon just make & sell special 2x extenders for their 400 & 600? Charge $1k for them. Nope, gotta charge $20k for a lens with an extender permanently installed instead. SMH.

Nikon to their credit has been working on a lot of their issues. Their AF has gotten a LOT better, and the new ZR looks very promising as a start of a cine lineup. But they still won't allow Sigma onto FF Z, they seem to be terrified of them. They also limit Tamron. And of course many Z lenses still have STM AF, even a number of quite expensive S line lenses. There are various video issues as well. Nikon is also very bad about cutting corners to hit price points and has too many recalls. Lenses falling off cameras. Strap lugs falling out of cameras. The Z8 is made of plastic instead of a full magnesium frame. They've been working hard. If I was buying into mirrorless today from scratch, I would seriously consider a Z8 even with the issues.

Sony is fanatical about keeping their different cameras segmented. The upcoming A7V is almost certainly going to use the A7IV sensor and still be limited to 10fps because Sony will not put a faster sensor into their base FF camera, they will not allow it to get closer in performance to their higher end bodies. They won't give it better video features so it can't steal sales from the A7S series. They limit video features in their FX line to protect sales of higher end cine cameras. They won't/can't bring out something to compete with the Z8 or R5II because they're terrified it would cannibalize A1 sales. Sony is also very bad about firmware updates. They didn't used to be this way (original A9 got GREAT firmware updates) but in recent years they have not provided anywhere near the same level of firmware support as (for example) Nikon has done. Sony also charges the most for their cameras. Oh, and while Sony does let pretty much any 3rd party glass onto E, they limit it all to 15fps and do not allow teleconverters. They also don't support some forms of in-camera correction such as the useful focus breathing correction in video.

None of these brands are perfect. They all have areas to improve. This is a Canon forum so it would be weird for me to talk about Sony or Nikon shortcomings here. It's important to call out these makers and push for them to do better. They DO read the forums. Of course they don't always listen.

Things will get even more interesting when the Chinese start making cameras. That day is coming fast. The early ones will likely suck but they will improve very quickly. If the Japanese makers don't get their houses in order PDQ, things are going to get ugly.

Imagine that! Timex refuses to sell watches at very cheap prices that are as good as expensive Rolex watches! What is this world coming to?
 
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You make me wonder if I had a bad copy. My EF 50mm f/1.4, wide open, was the softest autofocus lens I ever had, even on the 20MP R6. I bought it brand new in 2018, and made barely over 1000 shots with it.

Stopping down of course helped a lot, but so it did with other lenses.

In terms of image quality, my EF 50mm f/1.4 is no better than the EF 50mm f/1.8 II that preceded it at f/2 and beyond. At f/1.8 the 1.4 is *slightly* sharper.

The big difference for me was usability and not worrying that the mount ring would crack in two during the middle of a shoot. Now that the EF 50mm f/1.8 STM has been around with all of the same usability and "build quality" advantages of the 50/1.4, I'd have zero qualms using it instead of the 50/1.4 should my current 50/1.4 break. (Though the EF 50mm f/1.8 STM seems to be getting pretty hard to find since it has been discontinued.)
 
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Yes, Canon has identified a specific malfunction in some EF 50mm f/1.4 USM lenses, where the focus operation stops when moving from infinity to a closer distance, affecting both autofocus and manual focus. Other reports mention issues with softness at wide apertures, difficulty achieving sharp images, and even focus motor failure over time, leading some users to consider it a fragile lens with a reputation for poor quality control or a tendency to fail. (Canon Community Forum) btw, Made in Japan ? A widely held distinction which increases values, ... debunked. I have one I bought in a kit with a 5D and a 24-105L, I'm thinking it's been used less than 100 shots total. I tried to sell it and it's like new, couldn't even get $100 so it collects age because? Where am I going to get AF 1.4 for less than $100 that communicates Canon on Canon? It's original manual lens purpose was to be the color reference standard for the Canon system. People with good copies don't really comment, all that's mainly heard is bad experiences. Forums are all about da gripe, not da praise is my point here with some facts to back it up .... it's all about dreaming what it will be like going to a big amusement park for the first time and then after that it's all downhill ...the complaints grow and the happy are not on Forms whining like it's a self-support group for remorseful buyers. Really, if something is great then the last place I'd be is on a forum reading, I'd be so delighted I'd wear out a shutter in a day ....thanks for helping me break out of my block and helping me use my eyes and not my thoughts again ..."gone shooting" I appreciate your assistance in this matter very much ....stop thinking , what a concept?

The AF issue had nothing to do with optical performance when the focus elements are able to reach the intended position. The issue was a mechanical weakness in the helical collar that could cause the lenses to get stuck at certain focus positions if the lens had been bumped even moderately with the front of the lens extended as it is for close focusing.
 
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