The day of the anti-climatic announcement

[takesome1]

I'm confused. I've read the whole thread so far expecting a debate on...global warming.

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LOL, Anticlimactic is the correct word to use here...

I say let the debate begin;
By mid January I will once again be pro global warming.

 

[Loswr]

I'm confused. I've read the whole thread so far expecting a debate on...global warming.

Author Topic: The day of the anti-climatic announcement (Read 7518 times)

LOL, Anticlimactic is the correct word to use here...

I say let the debate begin;
By mid January I will once again be pro global warming.

If Canon doesn't announce dramatic reductions in carbon emissions at Photokina, I'm switching to Nikon.

 

[jrista]

I'm confused. I've read the whole thread so far expecting a debate on...global warming.

Author Topic: The day of the anti-climatic announcement (Read 7518 times)

LOL, Anticlimactic is the correct word to use here...

I say let the debate begin;
By mid January I will once again be pro global warming.

LOL, me too. I think were in for a COOOOLD one this year, so I suspect I'll be a big fan of carbon emissions come December 1st.

 

[EchoLocation]

Ire? No. But at this point I would like to see a new forum rule. Before complaining about a Canon sensor vs. any other sensor on the market, one must post RAW files in accordance with the following:

i'm not complaining about the sensor per se. I'm complaining about Canon's willingness to tread water and simply rehash products again and again and again. While it is true that they sell more than other companies, I think it is also true that their recent products have been a tad dull over the past 5 years.
When I first bought a DSLR, I purchased a 550D.
I realized after I bought it that it had the same sensor as the 7D. By the time I thought of upgrading to the 7D in 2012, it already seemed like an old camera to me(it was 3 years old at this point,) and although it had better features then the 550D, the images would be more or less the same.
Then came the 600D, 650D, 700D, 60D, SL1, EOS-M, EOS-M2, etc.... and since 2009, no upgrade to the 7D.
By now, the 7D is ancient and way past it's prime. If the sensor isn't changed significantly from previous models, I don't see why it shouldn't have been released in late 2012 or 2013.
Five years between refreshes of consumer electronics products is way too long and at this point Canon deserves a bit of ridicule for their lack of fresh products.

 

[ULFULFSEN]

It will be a short visit at the Canon booth in Cologne.

A 7D II with basically the same IQ as the prior model.

No new 100-400mm lens.

No new UWZ.

No new 135mm IS, 85mm IS or 50mm IS.

Only a few boring Powershots i guess.

I rather spend time at the Sony booth or Sigma booth (150-600mm) or look at Samsungs NX1. And i have to say that as a longtime Canon user, what a pity.

 

[Maiaibing]

I'm complaining about Canon's willingness to tread water and simply rehash products again and again and again. While it is true that they sell more than other companies, I think it is also true that their recent products have been a tad dull over the past 5 years.

Last product to showcase Canon as an innovation leader and to truly excite was announced almost 6 years ago to the day: the 5Dii on SEP 17, 2008...

Hope the 5Div will change that. The 7D will not by all rumored accounts so far.

 

[ULFULFSEN]

I'm complaining about Canon's willingness to tread water and simply rehash products again and again and again. While it is true that they sell more than other companies, I think it is also true that their recent products have been a tad dull over the past 5 years.

Last product showcase Canon as an innovation leader and to truly excite was announced almost 6 years ago to the day: the 5Dii on SEP 17, 2008...

Yes, and that is why i bought one.

Since then Canon has produced no cameras that made me upgrade.

It´s like INTEL... today you can still be happy with a Sandy Bridge CPU.

7D -> 7D II is like Sandy Bridge -> Ivy Bridge.

When you are a poweruser you don´t use the internal GPU anyway.
And that´s the main part, beside powersaving, INTEL has improved.
The overall performance boost is too small to justify buying a new Ivy Bridge or Haswell CPU and motherboard.

So i sticked for years to my Sandy Bridge.
Only yet i begin to think about buying a 6 Core Haswell-E.

Before Sandy Bridge i upgraded to every new CPU generation.

 

[zim]

If you all feel so bad why not go to photokina and tell them to their face how S___ there products are?
While your at it take a placard or two!

Personally I'm struggling to process a backlog of pics cos my computer is by far the weakest link in my chain, that's the only upgrade with real benefit for me, couldn't give a rats arse about sensors right now

 

[ULFULFSEN]

If you all feel so bad why not go to photokina and tell them to their face how S___ there products are?
While your at it take a placard or two!

Personally I'm struggling to process a backlog of pics cos my computer is by far the weakest link in my chain, that's the only upgrade with real benefit for me, couldn't give a rats arse about sensors right now

You pay them the flight ticket? ;D
Get real!

And do you know who stands on those booths?
I could tell it to my dog with the same effect.

But Canon could make a website where users can post their complains, wishes and ideas... how about that?

Oh and Canon should hire a few people who actually read it.

 

[the blackfox]

sept 6th and still waiting ,FFS someone light the fuse will ya ,the suspense is killing me ,i won't even use my free bus pass in case i spend anything ;D

 

[RickWagoner]

I'm complaining about Canon's willingness to tread water and simply rehash products again and again and again. While it is true that they sell more than other companies, I think it is also true that their recent products have been a tad dull over the past 5 years.

Last product showcase Canon as an innovation leader and to truly excite was announced almost 6 years ago to the day: the 5Dii on SEP 17, 2008...

Yes, and that is why i bought one.

Since then Canon has produced no cameras that made me upgrade.

It´s like INTEL... today you can still be happy with a Sandy Bridge CPU.

7D -> 7D II is like Sandy Bridge -> Ivy Bridge.

When you are a poweruser you don´t use the internal GPU anyway.
And that´s the main part, beside powersaving, INTEL has improved.
The overall performance boost is too small to justify buying a new Ivy Bridge or Haswell CPU and motherboard.

So i sticked for years to my Sandy Bridge.
Only yet i begin to think about buying a 6 Core Haswell-E.

Before Sandy Bridge i upgraded to every new CPU generation.

NEw chips are about Size and power use, you know that already. Keep building piece by piece smaller and smaller. Intel is the truest follower of Moores law and that is a great thing! The i7 920 Bloomfield was the last best for available speed and power. One could easily over clock it to 4 cooled by air easily.

 

[ULFULFSEN]

I'm complaining about Canon's willingness to tread water and simply rehash products again and again and again. While it is true that they sell more than other companies, I think it is also true that their recent products have been a tad dull over the past 5 years.

Last product showcase Canon as an innovation leader and to truly excite was announced almost 6 years ago to the day: the 5Dii on SEP 17, 2008...

Yes, and that is why i bought one.

Since then Canon has produced no cameras that made me upgrade.

It´s like INTEL... today you can still be happy with a Sandy Bridge CPU.

7D -> 7D II is like Sandy Bridge -> Ivy Bridge.

When you are a poweruser you don´t use the internal GPU anyway.
And that´s the main part, beside powersaving, INTEL has improved.
The overall performance boost is too small to justify buying a new Ivy Bridge or Haswell CPU and motherboard.

So i sticked for years to my Sandy Bridge.
Only yet i begin to think about buying a 6 Core Haswell-E.

Before Sandy Bridge i upgraded to every new CPU generation.

NEw chips are about Size and power use, you know that already. Keep building piece by piece smaller and smaller. Intel is the truest follower of Moores law and that is a great thing! The i7 920 Bloomfield was the last best for available speed and power. One could easily over clock it to 4 cooled by air easily.

To bad im not interested in power per watt.
I need processing power for Cinema 4D and After Effects.
So more cores or more overall performance is what i need.

Intel is doing only small steps in overall performance per CPU and did not offer more cores on a CPU for a reasonable price.

It´s only now with the 6 Core Haswell-E for around 350 euro that i think about upgrading.

The options before provide either not a big enough step to justify the upgrade or they are too expensive.

I am in the same situation with Canon, to stay on topic.

Why should i, as Landscape and Portrait shooter, buy a 5D MK3?
My images look identical with the MK2 i have. The better AF is wasted for my needs.
I can not crop more or enlarge more (with 36MP i could).
ISO performance in the LOW ISO regions i use is nearly identical too.

 

[dtaylor]

By now, the 7D is ancient and way past it's prime. If the sensor isn't changed significantly from previous models, I don't see why it shouldn't have been released in late 2012 or 2013.

Because nothing touches it even today. Nikon abandoned this market segment. Sony simply can't AF track as well regardless of their claims. Pentax doesn't have the glass to compete even if they live up to their paper specs.

You want crop for pro sports? 7D.

If Nikon had released a D300 successor that challenged the 7D and took sales away then we would have seen a 7D mkII much sooner.

 

[ULFULFSEN]

So back to topic.
The day is gone and nothing about a 7D II surfaced.

So we can assume that the NDA expiration date was wrong and there will be no more infos before the official announcement.

Keeping the tension up.... the hope that there will be more to it than what was rumored.

 

[zim]

If you all feel so bad why not go to photokina and tell them to their face how S___ there products are?
While your at it take a placard or two!

Personally I'm struggling to process a backlog of pics cos my computer is by far the weakest link in my chain, that's the only upgrade with real benefit for me, couldn't give a rats arse about sensors right now

You pay them the flight ticket

Actually that's an interesting point, I wonder if any regular here is actually going to the show? Anyone?

Get real!

Exactly, that's my point

And do you know who stands on those booths?
I could tell it to my dog with the same effect.

They are Canon reps, not dogs

But Canon could make a website where users can post their complains, wishes and ideas... how about that?

Apparently that already exists its called CR

Oh and Canon should hire a few people who actually read it.

Ah ya got me there ;D

Regards
PS my comments weren't really directed at you

 

[Loswr]

But Canon could make a website where users can post their complains, wishes and ideas... how about that?
Oh and Canon should hire a few people who actually read it.

Canon USA did that quite some time back. Canon employees moderate and participate in their forums.