The End of the DSLR?

jolyonralph said:
I had an interesting discussion last night with a guy who has more contacts than I do in the Canon world.

So this guy you talked to was not a Canon employee, but a guy that knows another guy that may or may not actually work at Canon? We don't know what guy at Canon would actually know about this, nor do we know if your guy's guy even knows this yet another guy.

This sounds like one step ahead of asking a random person on the street.

I would not sweat too much about what he said.

I wonder what will happen first

Canon stops making Pro level DSLRS or Nikon goes out of business? Both are rumours but I think neither will happen during my lifetime.
 
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The success (or not) of the Sony A9 will no doubt be a driving factor. Maybe the DSLR has reached the peak of what is possible to do with it, in which case Canon etc will try to push people towards mirrorless by removing the alternatives....good or bad is a matter of opinion.
Personally, I like the larger body of the 5D MklV in contrast to the Mirrorless bodies, larger hands, I want a larger camera. I have a lot of 'L' series glass that I am not disposing of so they either give mirrorless an appropriate mount or produce an adaptor that doesn't compromise weather sealing or lose any light, I would be non too happy if my 1.4 lens became 1.8.
Maybe they eventually make a mirrorless camera the same size as a DSLR with a mount that fits L series glass....maybe now I'll listen.
 
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jolyonralph said:
...that it would be a traditional update to the 6D, but this might be cancelled.

Yes, I'm sure the first DSLR cancelled with be the successor to a camera that consistently outsold every other full frame camera body on the market.

AcutancePhotography said:
jolyonralph said:
I had an interesting discussion last night with a guy who has more contacts than I do in the Canon world.

So this guy you talked to was not a Canon employee, but a guy that knows another guy that may or may not actually work at Canon? We don't know what guy at Canon would actually know about this, nor do we know if your guy's guy even knows this yet another guy.

This sounds like one step ahead of asking a random person on the street.

I disagree. I think a random person on the street would have have more intelligence.

Pookie said:
It wouldn't be CR if you didn't waste 3 pages talking about a guy, that knows a guy who know guys that say...

Come on, I'm sure we can get to 10 pages if we try.
 
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I was thinking about this... the 1DxII they say it shoots 14 fps but in live view it shoots 16. So at 16 the mirror is locked up, so it is kinda running like a mirrorless camera right? so how does that affect the camera? what So the auto-focus run the same?

I wouldn't get to shocked if canon makes one of those bodies goes mirrorless but i highly doubt they will go away the EF mount. That is the biggest thing canon has going for them. I know that this means the bodies can't go much smaller but I feel like most people shooting the 5D or 1D aren't overly worried about a little weight.
 
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I suspect the one thing holding up mirrorless is the global shutter sensor. Once Canon have a GS they will not need a mechanical shutter nor a mirror, so this should tip the balance. Global shutter sensors are trickier to design and need more transistors than the basic, so may be more expensive. MILC plus EVF will no doubt occur sometime soon and will slowly displace DSLR ... I think.
 
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Mirrorless will replace DSLR when there are no sacrifices to be made with mirrorless. It will happen and with the speed of technology improvement these days it could well be within 5 years. But untill a mirrorless is as good in everyway and more importantly as reliable and bulletproof as current DSLRs it won't happen. Gimmiks won't convert pros or srious enthusiast wildlife and landscape photographers who demand reliability.
 
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neonlight said:
I suspect the one thing holding up mirrorless is the global shutter sensor. Once Canon have a GS they will not need a mechanical shutter nor a mirror, so this should tip the balance. Global shutter sensors are trickier to design and need more transistors than the basic, so may be more expensive. MILC plus EVF will no doubt occur sometime soon and will slowly displace DSLR ... I think.

I agree, especially if Canon intends to make a new lens mount (I don't think they will). Like the FD to EF switch, there needs to be some massive improvement to drive people to switch. Crazy frame rates and a global shutter along with DPAF might make a compelling reason for pros to completely switch systems, but I think using EF glass for FF and expanding the M offerings for APSC is the smart choice for Canon.
 
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timmy_650 said:
I was thinking about this... the 1DxII they say it shoots 14 fps but in live view it shoots 16. So at 16 the mirror is locked up, so it is kinda running like a mirrorless camera right? so how does that affect the camera? what So the auto-focus run the same?

I wouldn't get to shocked if canon makes one of those bodies goes mirrorless but i highly doubt they will go away the EF mount. That is the biggest thing canon has going for them. I know that this means the bodies can't go much smaller but I feel like most people shooting the 5D or 1D aren't overly worried about a little weight.

It just needs to maintain AF using DPAF, like the M5 does it. One note - 16 fps with the mechanical shutter, so you can use strobes, and no jello effect. The A9 is doing 20 with no mechanical shutter (which still has jello in spite of the marketing claims), and only 5 with the mechanical shutter. If Canon can read the sensor fast enough (like the global shutter implemented in the C700) - they definitely can do a nice mirrorless with no compromises.
 
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