The Follow-Up to the EOS 5D Mark III Will be Called...... [CR2]
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For me a release late this year works great!
I will have the money ready for next year, which is also my 30th wedding anniversary year (and that is a great excuse to buy myself the camera before we take a celebration cruise to the far east.
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If it was released first half this year I would have the pain of knowing that it is available but not being able to get it yet.
By early 2017 it will/should have been released, possibly there will have been a small price drop and there should be many sample images to confirm that yes, Canon can still make great cameras.
Very kind of Canon to arrange their release cycle to match my finance and wedding anniversary cycle!
I will have the money ready for next year, which is also my 30th wedding anniversary year (and that is a great excuse to buy myself the camera before we take a celebration cruise to the far east.
)If it was released first half this year I would have the pain of knowing that it is available but not being able to get it yet.
By early 2017 it will/should have been released, possibly there will have been a small price drop and there should be many sample images to confirm that yes, Canon can still make great cameras.
Very kind of Canon to arrange their release cycle to match my finance and wedding anniversary cycle!
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Quackator said:
Well, I've seen these funny claims over at DPR various times by the same person. So, you did not eventually "migrate" over to Canon Rumors by happenstance? ;D Michael Valodon or however the guy calls himself over there? Just asking...
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Canon Rumors said:
Announcing the 5D IV in August during the Rio Olympics would really be rubbing salt into the wounds of those who hoped to have the camera for that event.
If the assumption is true, then the Summer Olympics will have become more frequent that the 5D product cycle. Great for amortisation of R&D, but makes for slow response to competition.
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Michael Clark
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expatinasia said:
Anti-flicker. With the 7D Mark II, it has transformed the way I can shoot under typical scholastic sports lighting. Not only is the brightness and color much more consistent from frame to frame (which makes post processing much easier and quicker - and makes straight to JPEG images much more usable), but since the shutter is timed to release at the peak of each light cycle, I can also shoot 2/3-1 stop faster than before under the same lights! Places that once required 1/500 second at f/2.8 and ISO 2500 now allow me to shoot at 1/1000 second, f/2.8, ISO 2500 or 1/640 second, f/2.8, ISO 1600.
I am looking forward to having that capability in a full frame body as well. As good as the AF system in the 7D Mark II is, the narrower mirror and resulting narrower baseline for the PDAF array means less consistent AF from shot to shot than the FF 5D Mark III. The better High ISO performance of a FF body will also be welcomed!
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Michael Clark
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CanonGuy said:
That's true, I guess, if all you ever shoot are stationary subjects at ISO 100. Try comparing the same cameras at ISO 1600 or higher. You might be surprised by who has better noise performance and DR at high ISO. And don't even thing of trying to track a junior high athlete, much less a world class one, with that extra stop of DR at ISO 100.
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neuroanatomist said:
It could be worse. You could be a T Rex. With such short arms, they couldn't have any fun! Ergo, extinct.
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11 pages and we still have people posting "Oh my god, if this is coming out later this year I will miss the wedding season" or "thats it I am moving to nikon/sony/someothercrap"
Do you ever hear of a taxi driver moaning in the same fashion because Toyota are taking too long to release the next version of the Pruis? "Man that new prius is at least 4 months away, thats it I am never buying Toyota again...Ford here I come..."
No.
Have you clung on to a 5d2 for far too long and are clucking for an upgrade? Well maybe you should have bought a 5d3 a long time ago
Will you be unable to shoot the wedding season with your 5d3 now that the 5d4 is coming out (in effect) for next years season? If you can't shoot with the camera you have been shooting, maybe pro photography is not for you
Is that it, a wait of four months means you are going to ditch all of your glass and other equipment and move to the other side? Bye...no seriously bye. Just don't come back moaning when that expensive camera you just bought is replaced 5 minutes after you leave the store and the value of your now "old" equipment has hit the floor.
Geez...people need to get a grip, look up cures for GAS and just get on with their lives. I shoot a 5d3 and have done since it launched (actually on my second now as the first went missing) and I have shot weddings, portraits, BIF and sports and guess what? I am making money from it just fine.
Sure would I *like* something new and sexy and with nice features, yes. I would love a few more FPS (even as the only guy with the agency I shoot sports with who single shots everything) and the anti flicker from the 1dx/7d2 would really really help in gym's etc...a few more MP would be nice and getting rid of the really f**king stupid reduction in FPS when the batter is below 50% and illuminated focus points in the VF...
But all of that asides I can now purchase a 5d3 new for less than half of what I paid for my first one at launch and to my mind that makes it an amazing piece of equipment for the money and frankly almost anyone would be stupid to not think the same. Heck if you have the roughly expected cash to purchase a 5d4 when it is released and need a camera now for the season...pick up a 5d3 as looking around there are retailers selling 5d3 used for almost the same price I can buy new....so buy one and use it for the season and sell it taking a small hit, but having made more money that you don't even notice that hit.
Now can we all chill out and get back to talking about which bullcrap specs we want it to have so we can be that much more disappointed in four months time ;-)
(Oh, this whole post is very very tongue in cheek...if any of it has offended you...I am kinda sorry, but then at the same time feel that you should also take a bit of a reality check)
[me=Hardwire]puts on flame retardant clothing[/me]
Do you ever hear of a taxi driver moaning in the same fashion because Toyota are taking too long to release the next version of the Pruis? "Man that new prius is at least 4 months away, thats it I am never buying Toyota again...Ford here I come..."
No.
Have you clung on to a 5d2 for far too long and are clucking for an upgrade? Well maybe you should have bought a 5d3 a long time ago
Will you be unable to shoot the wedding season with your 5d3 now that the 5d4 is coming out (in effect) for next years season? If you can't shoot with the camera you have been shooting, maybe pro photography is not for you
Is that it, a wait of four months means you are going to ditch all of your glass and other equipment and move to the other side? Bye...no seriously bye. Just don't come back moaning when that expensive camera you just bought is replaced 5 minutes after you leave the store and the value of your now "old" equipment has hit the floor.
Geez...people need to get a grip, look up cures for GAS and just get on with their lives. I shoot a 5d3 and have done since it launched (actually on my second now as the first went missing) and I have shot weddings, portraits, BIF and sports and guess what? I am making money from it just fine.
Sure would I *like* something new and sexy and with nice features, yes. I would love a few more FPS (even as the only guy with the agency I shoot sports with who single shots everything) and the anti flicker from the 1dx/7d2 would really really help in gym's etc...a few more MP would be nice and getting rid of the really f**king stupid reduction in FPS when the batter is below 50% and illuminated focus points in the VF...
But all of that asides I can now purchase a 5d3 new for less than half of what I paid for my first one at launch and to my mind that makes it an amazing piece of equipment for the money and frankly almost anyone would be stupid to not think the same. Heck if you have the roughly expected cash to purchase a 5d4 when it is released and need a camera now for the season...pick up a 5d3 as looking around there are retailers selling 5d3 used for almost the same price I can buy new....so buy one and use it for the season and sell it taking a small hit, but having made more money that you don't even notice that hit.
Now can we all chill out and get back to talking about which bullcrap specs we want it to have so we can be that much more disappointed in four months time ;-)
(Oh, this whole post is very very tongue in cheek...if any of it has offended you...I am kinda sorry, but then at the same time feel that you should also take a bit of a reality check
)[me=Hardwire]puts on flame retardant clothing[/me]
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Hardwire said:11 pages and we still have people posting "Oh my god, if this is coming out later this year I will miss the wedding season" or "thats it I am moving to nikon/sony/someothercrap"
Do you ever hear of a taxi driver moaning in the same fashion because Toyota are taking too long to release the next version of the Pruis? "Man that new prius is at least 4 months away, thats it I am never buying Toyota again...Ford here I come..."
No.
Have you clung on to a 5d2 for far too long and are clucking for an upgrade? Well maybe you should have bought a 5d3 a long time ago
Will you be unable to shoot the wedding season with your 5d3 now that the 5d4 is coming out (in effect) for next years season? If you can't shoot with the camera you have been shooting, maybe pro photography is not for you
Is that it, a wait of four months means you are going to ditch all of your glass and other equipment and move to the other side? Bye...no seriously bye. Just don't come back moaning when that expensive camera you just bought is replaced 5 minutes after you leave the store and the value of your now "old" equipment has hit the floor.
Geez...people need to get a grip, look up cures for GAS and just get on with their lives. I shoot a 5d3 and have done since it launched (actually on my second now as the first went missing) and I have shot weddings, portraits, BIF and sports and guess what? I am making money from it just fine.
Sure would I *like* something new and sexy and with nice features, yes. I would love a few more FPS (even as the only guy with the agency I shoot sports with who single shots everything) and the anti flicker from the 1dx/7d2 would really really help in gym's etc...a few more MP would be nice and getting rid of the really f**king stupid reduction in FPS when the batter is below 50% and illuminated focus points in the VF...
But all of that asides I can now purchase a 5d3 new for less than half of what I paid for my first one at launch and to my mind that makes it an amazing piece of equipment for the money and frankly almost anyone would be stupid to not think the same. Heck if you have the roughly expected cash to purchase a 5d4 when it is released and need a camera now for the season...pick up a 5d3 as looking around there are retailers selling 5d3 used for almost the same price I can buy new....so buy one and use it for the season and sell it taking a small hit, but having made more money that you don't even notice that hit.
Now can we all chill out and get back to talking about which bullcrap specs we want it to have so we can be that much more disappointed in four months time ;-)
(Oh, this whole post is very very tongue in cheek...if any of it has offended you...I am kinda sorry, but then at the same time feel that you should also take a bit of a reality check
[me=Hardwire]puts on flame retardant clothing[/me]
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You just said everything I was thinking!
It baffles my mind, that some people are just so eager to upgrade when there is fantastic equipment out RIGHT NOW that can do the job better than you think. I would argue with anyone who thinks the 5d3 and the 1Dx are obsolete cameras! Don't tell me the images created with these cameras the past four years and TODAY (and probably the next generation as well) are completely useless! If you can't make a living or cannot get creative and make breathtaking photos with these machines, than a brand spanking new camera is not going to help you either. It is all about the photography, the images you can create, not the gear or the amount of sliders you can adjust after the fact!
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Memdroid said:
It takes delicate business tact to keep eager customers lined up at the door month in advance of a product release. If you keep them waiting too long or don't make the wait worth it, people will go else where. I personally don't plan on picking up a 5DIV at release but, for me (and probably a lot of people), this release is the litmus test for the direction of Canon. It represents the best available canon body (not counting the 1 series) for the next 3-4 years. If the 5DIV cant close the sensor gap (or provide other unique benefits) with cameras that have already been out for a while let alone cameras released in 2-3 years then, it may be prudent for some people to move to a competitor system. There is absolutely nothing wrong with switching brands to fill your perceived needs/wants. There is greater issue however, with blind brand loyalty and the mentality that what we have now is good enough and there is no reason to want/expect/need more.
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j-nord said:
Both of these views have merit. And, not surprisingly, the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
Many people are anxiously awaiting the 5DIV largely because it is something "new" and people want to see what that will be. Nothing wrong with that. That is the reason this site exists. Most people keep it in perspective and know that there will be no magic camera that makes their lives perfect.
There are some who by nature have a negative outlook and for them nothing that is released will be good enough.
Yes, if you can't take great pictures with the lowest cost Rebel or Nikon you probably have no business being a photographer.
But, photography combines technology and vision and for many photographers that technology can make a huge difference, particularly if their work requires them to shoot at the "edges" -- such as challenging light and fast action.
A gross oversimplification. Blind loyalty is one thing, but that is not what anyone recommends. Instead, it is simply the suggestion that what we have now is really, really, really good (regardless of brand) and it is unrealistic to expect to see quantum leaps or more accurately to magnify the tiny differences between brands into more than they really are. Further, all manufacturers are in competition and each successive generation simultaneously seeks to both close any gap between competitors and find new areas to show differences. This is not a race where one brand will reach the finish line and be declared the champion, it is a generations-long exchange back and forth whenever one company introduces what they market as an advantage, the other company will seek to match or minimize that perceived advantage.
Also an oversimplification. If you are in the business of making a living, you must constantly evolve and adapt or die. Since photography is a business that depends largely on technology, it is only natural that those who practice it want the newest and best technology. Many of those who make a living in photography must live at the edges and legitimately need tools that will help them bring back images that can be difficult to capture.
Bottom line, let's enjoy the anticipation, recognize that some cannot keep things in perspective and then see what is released and whether or not it meets our specific needs.
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There are two ways to look at this:
1) Canon is a business merely producing products and we are just consuming.
2) We are arteests just using the tools at our disposal.
Most people will probably say they fall in the middle however if you are on the canon rumors forum and debating potential and unreleased future technology then it seems you lean pretty hard one way... Also, the former opinion is what drives the majority of innovation and advancement of the technology at the benefit of the latter opinion. In the case of this industry I do think we need both types to move forward though.
1) Canon is a business merely producing products and we are just consuming.
2) We are arteests just using the tools at our disposal.
Most people will probably say they fall in the middle however if you are on the canon rumors forum and debating potential and unreleased future technology then it seems you lean pretty hard one way... Also, the former opinion is what drives the majority of innovation and advancement of the technology at the benefit of the latter opinion. In the case of this industry I do think we need both types to move forward though.
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