There will not be an EOS 5D Mark V [CR2]

Maru

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What was it that made it seem like the stone ages? Curious...
I was thinking that too actually.. 5dsR is an excellent camera with some significant ISO noise ...apart from that it's an excellent camera i feel ..I hope they would have fixed the ISO
 

MartinF.

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There might (sadly) not be an 5DmkV, as a direct successor from the 5D mkIV. But with a brand new 1DX mkIII and some new (2019) versions of EF lenses (70-200 mk III) I guess that there will be at least one more final DSRL. - At bit like the the T90 the last FD mount camera from 1990 three years after the introduction of the EOS camera line and EF mount. Or the EOS 1V - Canons last SLR film camera, introduced in 2000 and continued in production until 2010.
So the rumored death of the 5D line might be right. But my guess is that there will be one more "prof/semiprof" DSLR for the current 5D segment.
But that will be the end of EF mount cameras.
- Anyway: I just bought a brand new 5D mkIV to take over from my 5D and 6D. To keep me within the DSLR and EF mount world for the next at least 5-6 years.
Mirrorless is the furture no doubt. DSLR will be as rare as film cameras are today. And that is just fine. Personally I will stay with the DSLR as long as possible. Going mirrorless might earlier, but with a much smaller system (or fixed lens camera) that the current "R series")
 
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jolyonralph

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What was it that made it seem like the stone ages? Curious...
Several things. The focus accuracy, the lack of immediate visual feedback in the viewfinder as to whether things are under/overexposed, the weight and size (to a small extent). But the main thing was being unable to review images easily outdoors in daylight. Reviewing images through the viewfinder is such a revelation after being used to trying to run to a shady patch to try and see what they look like on the rear screen.

After being used to the early EOS M cameras it was the main reason I didn't buy a 5D Mark IV to replace my Mark III and went for a Sony A7RII instead. Now I'm back with the EOS R having fortunately not invested much on the Sony system.
 
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Methodical

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Several things. The focus accuracy, the lack of immediate visual feedback in the viewfinder as to whether things are under/overexposed, the weight and size (to a small extent). But the main thing was being unable to review images easily outdoors in daylight. Reviewing images through the viewfinder is such a revelation after being used to trying to run to a shady patch to try and see what they look like on the rear screen.

After being used to the early EOS M cameras it was the main reason I didn't buy a 5D Mark IV to replace my Mark III and went for a Sony A7RII instead. Now I'm back with the EOS R having fortunately not invested much on the Sony system.
I see. Thanks.

I just recenty received the R5, but have not been able to shoot with it yet. I have been waiting for the EF-R adapter and it came in today, but someone took out the adapter and put a Canon battery charger in the box...damn shiiisters. I patiently waited 2 weeks for the thing to come in and still am not able to shoot with the R5 yet. Fortunately, I found a standard adapter at a local Best Buy, but now it's dark. So, hopefully, I will be able to shoot with it tomorrow and see what you describe.
 

Maru

EOS 90D
Feb 9, 2019
105
25
Several things. The focus accuracy, the lack of immediate visual feedback in the viewfinder as to whether things are under/overexposed, the weight and size (to a small extent). But the main thing was being unable to review images easily outdoors in daylight. Reviewing images through the viewfinder is such a revelation after being used to trying to run to a shady patch to try and see what they look like on the rear screen.

After being used to the early EOS M cameras it was the main reason I didn't buy a 5D Mark IV to replace my Mark III and went for a Sony A7RII instead. Now I'm back with the EOS R having fortunately not invested much on the Sony system.
What did you see wrong in Sony.. curious to know the advantages of EOS R!
 

jolyonralph

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What did you see wrong in Sony.. curious to know the advantages of EOS R!
To be honest, very little wrong! I still have the A7RII (although it's a bit battered now) and will keep it as I have an underwater case for it. I didn't invest much in lenses, but the 55mm FE 1.8 is a fantastic lens and I'd keep the sony just to use that. It is nicely smaller than the EOS R, so with the 35mm 2.8 lens I can keep it in a coat pocket.

However, there was little point in me replacing my investment of EF glass with Sony glass, and in general I much prefer the EOS R to the Sony.
 
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Maru

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Now canon is pushing for 5dsR refub at 1199... I hope they push something for 5dmkIV like that ... :unsure:
 

YuengLinger

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What was it that made it seem like the stone ages? Curious...
I'd say AF precision and consistency is the biggest improvement of the R over the 5DIV, particularly at wide apertures.

The other big step up is with exposure. The EVF is so good at showing exactly what the captured exposure will be that it frees up fingers and mind to compose more easily and to nail desired exposure exactly. EXACTLY. By using spot AF, moving the spot zone slowly over different parts of, say, a person's face, the shadow/highlight balance can be locked in with AE LOCK HOLD (H*).

"Stone age" might be a rhetorical flourish, but "paradigm shift" is not much of an exaggeration at all. Seriously. Photographers with years of experience might already be nailing exposure consistently, and they might be satisfied with AF. (BUT, until you see the AF improvement of Canon's mirrorless, you just can't understand how much better it is.) Newer photographers, however, don't have as steep a learning curve, and can start capturing and creating faster than before. Much faster, I believe.

This is why some of us who have made the move to mirrorless are so very enthusiastic. Hopefully not to the level of crusading, but definitely stoked!

See? I'm this excited with just the R. And still patiently waiting for an R5!
 
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Maru

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I'd say AF precision and consistency is the biggest improvement of the R over the 5DIV, particularly at wide apertures.

The other big step up is with exposure. The EVF is so good at showing exactly what the captured exposure will be that it frees up fingers and mind to compose more easily and to nail desired exposure exactly. EXACTLY. By using spot AF, moving the spot zone slowly over different parts of, say, a person's face, the shadow/highlight balance can be locked in with AE LOCK HOLD (H*).

"Stone age" might be a rhetorical flourish, but "paradigm shift" is not much of an exaggeration at all. Seriously. Photographers with years of experience might already be nailing exposure consistently, and they might be satisfied with AF. (BUT, until you see the AF improvement of Canon's mirrorless, you just can't understand how much better it is.) Newer photographers, however, don't have as steep a learning curve, and can start capturing and creating faster than before. Much faster, I believe.

This is why some of us who have made the move to mirrorless are so very enthusiastic. Hopefully not to the level of crusading, but definitely stoked!

See? I'm this excited with just the R. And still patiently waiting for an R5!
Agreed with your point... just R5 is out of my zone..may be 10 years from now when they give 50% discount :unsure: ..but R is excellent at current price tag and with all the firmware updates
 
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My dream camera would have a huge, clumpsy and heavy (but equally amazing) optical viewfinder, preferrably an 100% 0.95x super-bulky one, with one of these matte-screens that show EXACTLY what is in focus, and nothing else.
Apart from thát; 50 mpix, a pretty good iso 1600 and a useable 3200, as high a dynamic range as possible, and the same with the buffer, a usb 3.2 connection and a 6 or 7" screen on the back, which can be done by exchanging the rear wheel with one that go into the camera, like the one by the index finger.

-Now, thát would be a camera....!!!

Electronic viewfinder R5, no effin way, if needed, I have the rear screen for whatever an electronic viewfinder does better than an optical viewfinder, what.the.heck.are.you.thinking.canon.....???
-With the 1D and 5D lines of cameras, You are basically market leaders, and You are throwing it all away, just to cater for teenagers who are used to use the screen on their phones as viewfinders, and who doesn't know better....???!?!!!?!?!?!!?!!!

An EVF may make sense with the crop-cameras, which basically has a useless small OVF, but in my pro camera I will want to be able to see the ultra-fine small changes in expression that make the perfect portrait in the viewfinder, thát is my job and my art, and if I can't see those due to whatever being in focus being plastered into some sort of highlighting, I won't get the picture....

Sure, I can deselect the plastering, but then I have a lot of dots to look at, rather than the real life that I love to depict, or in other words, I don´t want to see a finished jpg inside the viewfinder either, I want to see the real-life tones that there is, and which I know that I can get out perfectly in ACR and Photoshop.
-And I take basically all my pictures at f/1.0/1.2/1.4, so I coulden't care less for "being able to see the actual DoF", I got thát in my optical viewfinder already....

My 5D3 is getting old, and getting a 3 years old "new" camera (5D4/5DS) isn't quite going to cut it, I COULD get the 1Dx3, but then I am stuck at 20 mp, which is what I got now, and I WOULD like to have some more.
-Hmmm, both Nikon and Zeiss make a nice 35, 50 and 85 mm, which is basically all that I need, I wonder what Nikon and Sony got to offer camera-wise, I will go and take a look at it right now....
 
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Sporgon

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-And I take basically all my pictures at f/1.0/1.2/1.4, so I coulden't care less for "being able to see the actual DoF", I got thát in my optical viewfinder already....
I think this has been pointed out before, but unless you have a third party specialist screen fitted to your 5DIII then you sure ain’t seeing the 1.0 1.2 or 1.4 DOF ;)

But still, bring on a 5DV ! (Preferably with user interchangeable screens);)
 

Maru

EOS 90D
Feb 9, 2019
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somehow I feel there wont be much discount on good camera's this year during holidays as companies/stores are struggling in covid..thoughts!
 

SteveC

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somehow I feel there wont be much discount on good camera's this year during holidays as companies/stores are struggling in covid..thoughts!
I certainly wouldn't expect much if any discount on the R5 as they already cannot keep up with demand.
 
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ColorBlindBat

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Yeah..i was looking for eosR deal...i think R5/R6 needs a year before discount
Check at CanonPriceWatch. They had the R with RF 24-105L for $2299 in September and $2249 in July from Canon authorized dealers with no tax.

They have also had just the bodies at different times. Most of the deals are pretty short lived, so you need to check relatively often.

Quite a bit cheaper than $2899 plus tax.
 
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Mt Spokane Photography

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Yeah..i was looking for eosR deal...i think R5/R6 needs a year before discount
I had a $200 discount on mine last month. R6's were $150 off. I expect discounts in the form of free printers, memory cards and bundled lenses as Christmas looms. Production is going full tilt by now and will catchup with demand soon.

Discounts are available if you happen to have a EPP that includes Canon


Canon discount.JPG
 
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