The New Canon EF-S 24mm f/2.8 STM Pancake
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Besisika said:Let's see how it works with Dual-pixel CMOS AF.Sporgon said:Frage said:
Good excuse to go buy a 7DII
Would be perfect for a glidecam.
A better glidecam setup is EOS-M with the 11-22 STM IS. Lighter, wider, and with Image stabilization. I doubt you'd use AF, even DPAF, in a glidecam shot.
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EF-S 10-18mm IS STM, EF-S 18-55 IS STM, EF-S 24 STM, EF 40 STM (I prefer it on aps-c, so I'll put it in the same category). That's some serious APS-C support going for Canon, at least in the resolution and price department. If you've got a tripod and an off camera flash, I see no reason going to Nikon for aps-c other than its sensors (who gives a shit about a good sensor with shitty dedicated-for-crop lenses).
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Yay, now exclusively crop shooters can have a sort-of-wide angle pancake too... Not that anyone cares. Maybe if IQ is out of this world and it's $100 then it'll be worthwhile.
Actually I can think of a few people who would love this lens as a Christmas present.
But all I really want is an L version of the original, with weather sealing, USM (for actual full time manual and not this fake that needs you to wake up the camera all the time), and an f2 aperture (and amazing IQ).
Best, walk-around, lens, ever.
Actually I can think of a few people who would love this lens as a Christmas present.
But all I really want is an L version of the original, with weather sealing, USM (for actual full time manual and not this fake that needs you to wake up the camera all the time), and an f2 aperture (and amazing IQ).
Best, walk-around, lens, ever.
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tyger11 said:
The 40mm doesn't have IS either. This lens should be priced low.. or it won't sell.
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It's just not exciting. Perhaps if you REALLY want your lens to be tiny.
I was always hoping for EF-S primes, they would make the system much more appealing.
For example, the 24mm could have been a 35mm equivalent for the cropped bodies, but with F/2.8, it's equivalent to a 35mm F/4 lens. Just not exciting. I love the 35mm focal length for portraits, lowlight, landscape, this narrow aperture doesnt make much sense for a prime. Make it twice as long but 1.8, that would be a very exciting 35mm F/2.8 equivalent.
We want fast ef-s primes. Preferablly with IS and sub 300-400$ price tags.
I was always hoping for EF-S primes, they would make the system much more appealing.
For example, the 24mm could have been a 35mm equivalent for the cropped bodies, but with F/2.8, it's equivalent to a 35mm F/4 lens. Just not exciting. I love the 35mm focal length for portraits, lowlight, landscape, this narrow aperture doesnt make much sense for a prime. Make it twice as long but 1.8, that would be a very exciting 35mm F/2.8 equivalent.
We want fast ef-s primes. Preferablly with IS and sub 300-400$ price tags.
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Ebrahim Saadawi said:
I agree, would love some fast crop lenses, especially some that would fill the 24mm and 35mm full frame equivalents. I still remember when I first picked up the 28mm f/1.8 just to get a "normal" lens on crop that could still shoot in low light.
If I can pick it up for the $129 I got the 40mm pancake for I'm sure I'll pick on up. I like the small size. I just hope it is not as slow to focus as the 22mm pancake on the M. I love that small little camera/lens package but can't stand how slow it is to focus. Makes it tough to capture shots of the kids at times.
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A lot of people are scratching their heads on this lens in this thread, but I think it may be part of a longer term strategy for Canon (I suppose what isn't part of a longer term strategy for such a large company?). DSLR sales have slowed, and it's not extremely likely that they will pick up drastically. I think Canon is trying to offer higher quality, low cost non-L lenses to try and entice DSLR owners (I'm thinking in particular of Rebel owners who pretty much just get a kit and never buy a new lens) to get a taste of high image quality from nice prime lenses. If they can get more people hooked on superior image quality and wide(r) apertures compared to the kit lenses, maybe they can start moving a lot more lenses? In other words, maybe primes like this (and the short-forty) are nascent lower rungs on what they hope will be an ever more popular lens ladder that can help compensate for slower DSLR sales.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
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I've seen hundreds if not thousands of posts from crop camera owners wanting a EFs prime lens. So, finally, here it is.
Now, of course, there are those who complain that its not something else. Thus shall it ever be, we kiddies are never satisfied with our toys.
Now, of course, there are those who complain that its not something else. Thus shall it ever be, we kiddies are never satisfied with our toys.
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Why is it that the EOS M, a Hello Kitty camera, gets a 22mm f/2 lens and the Semi-Pro EOS 7D get an inferior 24mm f/2.8 lens ??? What message is Canon sending to the Pros who use APS-C cameras ???
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Any new lens is great news in my book, especially when it's EF-S specific as that confirms confidence in the crop body range - roll on more EF-S & EF-M specific lenses.
I'm expecting a similar price to the 40mm, plus waiting for the first person to remove the back section so that it works on Full Frame ;-)
I'm expecting a similar price to the 40mm, plus waiting for the first person to remove the back section so that it works on Full Frame ;-)
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The same message they have sent them all along with minor exceptions in the 17-55 f/2.8 IS and 7D - if you want pro features like dual [CF] cards, weather sealing, durable bodies, etc., you must go full frame and shell out the big bucks.c.d.embrey said:
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bseitz234 said:one piece? Does that mean one element?
Is that even possible, to deliver 24mm with this mount distance with only once element
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Everybody want this pancake to be not pancake but normal lens with faster f-stop.
This is no sens like opinion.
So this is a pancake sorry
)) The idea is to be small and cheap for everyday use not for specialized photography.
They have 24/2.8IS,28/2.8IS,24/1.4,30/2,30/2IS and 35 1.4 for that...Yes don`t have cheap 24/1.8.....
)) Be realistic please.
I if this lens is cheap enough it will be good for crop sensors for everyday use. In the future they may make slimmer mirrorless FF and crop body ...why not? Even now i have 70d and 40d for second body. I can buy one for my 40d for everyday use or for remote wildlife photography. The set up will be lighter and smaller and nothing to worry about like investment.
Use imagination
This is no sens like opinion.
So this is a pancake sorry
)) The idea is to be small and cheap for everyday use not for specialized photography.They have 24/2.8IS,28/2.8IS,24/1.4,30/2,30/2IS and 35 1.4 for that...Yes don`t have cheap 24/1.8.....
)) Be realistic please.I if this lens is cheap enough it will be good for crop sensors for everyday use. In the future they may make slimmer mirrorless FF and crop body ...why not?
Even now i have 70d and 40d for second body. I can buy one for my 40d for everyday use or for remote wildlife photography. The set up will be lighter and smaller and nothing to worry about like investment. Use imagination
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c.d.embrey said:
So you think the lens - with focus on size and price more than features and specs - will anger the people with a 7D ot plans for buying the 7DII?
Why should any "pro" be upset that there is a cheap pancake lens for APS-C?
There is no market for an expensive EF-S 24mm f1.4 L or even a less expensive EF-S 24mm f2.8 in my opinion, since they would have to compete with the EF-counterparts most "pros" already own.
For the 24mm EF-S pancake on the other hand there is no EF-rival and in size and probably in price as well there will be no match in the Canon-lineup.
If price and IQ will be on the same level as the 40mm I will be happy to get one, since I like traveling light
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