The Unthinkable: Swapped out 5D3 for 6D

BTW, was fortunate enough to have another paid gig land on my lap for this Friday. Will be the second pro outing with the 6D. This one should be a bit more dynamic as there will be more festivities and varying shooting scenarios. Fingers crossed in hopes that I won't encounter any situations where I miss the old cam too much. More to come....
 
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JohnDizzo15 said:
So over the Thanksgiving weekend, I finally gathered the nerve to just let go of my 5D3 as I was offered a fair price for it. That, in conjunction with the deal for the 6D at $1400 pushed me into pulling the trigger on the swap out. Done and done.

Some things I'm struggling with, some not so much. Either way, I think the decision was the right one for me (for now).

Wondering if anyone else has given the same move some thought.

John,
I have an opposite offer. I have four friends(high school buds, now wedding pro). One of them offered me his 5 months old 1D X - purchased from BH, still under Canon warranty, 87,000ish clicks - for $4700 cash.

I still have few more days to think about this before he puts it on CL ::) ::) ::)

If I wasn't thinking about the Canon 600mm....uhmmmmmm
 
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Dylan777 said:
JohnDizzo15 said:
So over the Thanksgiving weekend, I finally gathered the nerve to just let go of my 5D3 as I was offered a fair price for it. That, in conjunction with the deal for the 6D at $1400 pushed me into pulling the trigger on the swap out. Done and done.

Some things I'm struggling with, some not so much. Either way, I think the decision was the right one for me (for now).

Wondering if anyone else has given the same move some thought.

John,
I have an opposite offer. I have four friends(high school buds, now wedding pro). One of them offered me his 5 months old 1D X - purchased from BH, still under Canon warranty, 87,000ish clicks - for $4700 cash.

I still have few more days to think about this before he puts it on CL ::) ::) ::)

If I wasn't thinking about the Canon 600mm....uhmmmmmm

By all means get the 1DX!!!! ... But, beware: After that, you would only want to shoot with 1D bodies!!!!
 
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Had a 5D Mark III for most of this year, but had to sell it for some unforseen medical expenses. I've been using my old T3i for some time, but greatly missed the full frame. With all the holiday sales going on, I bought a 6D with a 24-70 mark ii. It will be in on Monday, so I'll be interested in seeing how much of the features from the 5D I'll miss. Will post an update soon :)
 
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Dylan777 said:
JohnDizzo15 said:
So over the Thanksgiving weekend, I finally gathered the nerve to just let go of my 5D3 as I was offered a fair price for it. That, in conjunction with the deal for the 6D at $1400 pushed me into pulling the trigger on the swap out. Done and done.

Some things I'm struggling with, some not so much. Either way, I think the decision was the right one for me (for now).

Wondering if anyone else has given the same move some thought.

John,
I have an opposite offer. I have four friends(high school buds, now wedding pro). One of them offered me his 5 months old 1D X - purchased from BH, still under Canon warranty, 87,000ish clicks - for $4700 cash.

I still have few more days to think about this before he puts it on CL ::) ::) ::)

If I wasn't thinking about the Canon 600mm....uhmmmmmm

LOL, this guy. Quite the luxury to have such choices to make. My question is, are you shooting enough stuff from distance that would make the 600 earn it's keep? I say hold onto the money and then we can have a conversation in 1-2 years about our new ff bodies that cost an arm and a leg. ;D
 
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libertyranger said:
Had a 5D Mark III for most of this year, but had to sell it for some unforseen medical expenses. I've been using my old T3i for some time, but greatly missed the full frame. With all the holiday sales going on, I bought a 6D with a 24-70 mark ii. It will be in on Monday, so I'll be interested in seeing how much of the features from the 5D I'll miss. Will post an update soon :)

Just depends on what you shoot and what your habits are. My hunch is that you'll probably be quite pleased if you are okay with the AF system difference (which using the rebel for a while should soften the shock of ;D).
 
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I cannont comment on the 5DMKIII but I do have the 7D and I find the 6D strenghs far out weight any weaknesses.
I use mine mainly to shoot landscape (stills I never shoot video on DSLRs) and regardless of bright sun light, darkened woodland, sunrise / sunset etc. it produces great shots with accurate colours & sharp in the right places depending on lens & aperture etc. The quality over the 7D is truely evident (I will keep my 7D for sports & wildlife) and I dont feel second class to 5DMKIII owners its about the photgraphs you produce from your tools.
 
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JohnDizzo15 said:
Dylan777 said:
JohnDizzo15 said:
So over the Thanksgiving weekend, I finally gathered the nerve to just let go of my 5D3 as I was offered a fair price for it. That, in conjunction with the deal for the 6D at $1400 pushed me into pulling the trigger on the swap out. Done and done.

Some things I'm struggling with, some not so much. Either way, I think the decision was the right one for me (for now).

Wondering if anyone else has given the same move some thought.

John,
I have an opposite offer. I have four friends(high school buds, now wedding pro). One of them offered me his 5 months old 1D X - purchased from BH, still under Canon warranty, 87,000ish clicks - for $4700 cash.

I still have few more days to think about this before he puts it on CL ::) ::) ::)

If I wasn't thinking about the Canon 600mm....uhmmmmmm

LOL, this guy. Quite the luxury to have such choices to make. My question is, are you shooting enough stuff from distance that would make the 600 earn it's keep? I say hold onto the money and then we can have a conversation in 1-2 years about our new ff bodies that cost an arm and a leg. ;D

The cost renting this lens is $200-$300 each time. If you go out and shoot 5-6 times a year, I think owning the lens is a better option. Bodies will come and go away ;)
 
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Dylan777 said:
JohnDizzo15 said:
Dylan777 said:
JohnDizzo15 said:
So over the Thanksgiving weekend, I finally gathered the nerve to just let go of my 5D3 as I was offered a fair price for it. That, in conjunction with the deal for the 6D at $1400 pushed me into pulling the trigger on the swap out. Done and done.

Some things I'm struggling with, some not so much. Either way, I think the decision was the right one for me (for now).

Wondering if anyone else has given the same move some thought.

John,
I have an opposite offer. I have four friends(high school buds, now wedding pro). One of them offered me his 5 months old 1D X - purchased from BH, still under Canon warranty, 87,000ish clicks - for $4700 cash.

I still have few more days to think about this before he puts it on CL ::) ::) ::)

If I wasn't thinking about the Canon 600mm....uhmmmmmm

LOL, this guy. Quite the luxury to have such choices to make. My question is, are you shooting enough stuff from distance that would make the 600 earn it's keep? I say hold onto the money and then we can have a conversation in 1-2 years about our new ff bodies that cost an arm and a leg. ;D

The cost renting this lens is $200-$300 each time. If you go out and shoot 5-6 times a year, I think owning the lens is a better option. Bodies will come and go away ;)

True. Pretty good price on the body though.
 
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I too believe that since you have 5D3 cameras you should proceed with the 600mm 4L IS II first. Glass before body especially since you own the second best. Now if you just had a Rebel that would be a totally different matter...
 
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JohnDizzo15 said:
libertyranger said:
Had a 5D Mark III for most of this year, but had to sell it for some unforseen medical expenses. I've been using my old T3i for some time, but greatly missed the full frame. With all the holiday sales going on, I bought a 6D with a 24-70 mark ii. It will be in on Monday, so I'll be interested in seeing how much of the features from the 5D I'll miss. Will post an update soon :)

Just depends on what you shoot and what your habits are. My hunch is that you'll probably be quite pleased if you are okay with the AF system difference (which using the rebel for a while should soften the shock of ;D).

I'm thinking so. I mainly shoot family portraits and photos of my family. I just hope I didn't spoil myself with that 5D autofocus. If I miss it terribly, I'm sure I'll upgrade one day. But I was able to get the new 24-70 with the price difference in bodies.
 
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libertyranger said:
JohnDizzo15 said:
libertyranger said:
Had a 5D Mark III for most of this year, but had to sell it for some unforseen medical expenses. I've been using my old T3i for some time, but greatly missed the full frame. With all the holiday sales going on, I bought a 6D with a 24-70 mark ii. It will be in on Monday, so I'll be interested in seeing how much of the features from the 5D I'll miss. Will post an update soon :)

Just depends on what you shoot and what your habits are. My hunch is that you'll probably be quite pleased if you are okay with the AF system difference (which using the rebel for a while should soften the shock of ;D).

I'm thinking so. I mainly shoot family portraits and photos of my family. I just hope I didn't spoil myself with that 5D autofocus. If I miss it terribly, I'm sure I'll upgrade one day. But I was able to get the new 24-70 with the price difference in bodies.

Gulp! Wow! That is pretty huge. I should pause and ask, "which new 24-70"? The f/4L IS, I say, "nice". If you are talking the 24-70LII, that is a big "Wow!"
 
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Canon1 said:
CarlTN said:
Canon1 said:
Love the fact that the dSLR's these days are so awesome (And that even entry level and pro-sumer level cameras perform so well) that people can spend page after page debating which one is a split hair better. :D :D :D

Nobody said you had to read any of this...

I was not picking on anyone here. Just commenting how we live at an exciting time for camera tech. These cameras are truly awesome and it is great that spirited discussions like this are able to happen when comparing one great camera to another.

In other words... What the hell is your problem?

I don't have a problem, but I fail to see that you have a point to make.
 
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libertyranger said:
JohnDizzo15 said:
libertyranger said:
Had a 5D Mark III for most of this year, but had to sell it for some unforseen medical expenses. I've been using my old T3i for some time, but greatly missed the full frame. With all the holiday sales going on, I bought a 6D with a 24-70 mark ii. It will be in on Monday, so I'll be interested in seeing how much of the features from the 5D I'll miss. Will post an update soon :)

Just depends on what you shoot and what your habits are. My hunch is that you'll probably be quite pleased if you are okay with the AF system difference (which using the rebel for a while should soften the shock of ;D).

I'm thinking so. I mainly shoot family portraits and photos of my family. I just hope I didn't spoil myself with that 5D autofocus. If I miss it terribly, I'm sure I'll upgrade one day. But I was able to get the new 24-70 with the price difference in bodies.

If all you shoot is your family and it's still portraiture, the 6D will be SUPERIOR to the 5D3 for most scenarios. Not all, but most. If you mostly shoot portraits of your family as they are racing cars or riding rollercoasters, then you might miss the 5D3. If they're sitting still...then if you do miss the 5D3, you might just be doing something wrong. If you shoot these portraits with an array of strobes in a dimly lit room with low continuous light on the subjects, and you're constantly moving in and out (fashion photog style) with a 50 or 85mm f/1.2, and you always use the outer AF points...and you never manually focus an f/1.4 or f/1.2 lens...then you might miss the 5D3.
 
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CarlTN said:
If all you shoot is your family and it's still portraiture, the 6D will be SUPERIOR to the 5D3 for most scenarios. Not all, but most.

Oh my, I won't get into an argument with you, but this is sooooo unreasonable - with a faster lens like f2.8 which you'll often use for portraiture, the 6d's center point is non-cross, meaning you carefully have to focus on an appropriate contrast part or you'll get af (micro)-misses. The bit of 6d less noise (if any) certainly doesn't compensate for that.
 
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Marsu42 said:
CarlTN said:
If all you shoot is your family and it's still portraiture, the 6D will be SUPERIOR to the 5D3 for most scenarios. Not all, but most.

Oh my, I won't get into an argument with you, but this is sooooo unreasonable - with a faster lens like f2.8 which you'll often use for portraiture, the 6d's center point is non-cross, meaning you carefully have to focus on an appropriate contrast part or you'll get af (micro)-misses. The bit of 6d less noise (if any) certainly doesn't compensate for that.

The only time I got center point misses in any light, was in servo mode with my 135 f/2. In single shot mode, no misses with center point, and few with all points active. Are you shooting portaits in servo mode?
 
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CarlTN said:
In single shot mode, no misses with center point, and few with all points active.

Well, I admit it, you're a photo wiz because from what I read generations of 5d2 shooters had the same problem I'm experiencing ... note that I'm talking about micro-misses with a f2.8 lens here like on the eyes, not about "well, this looks fine" zoomed out on the camera display.

CarlTN said:
Are you shooting portaits in servo mode?

Hey, that's certainly a novel idea, I should try it some time :->
 
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Marsu42 said:
CarlTN said:
In single shot mode, no misses with center point, and few with all points active.

Well, I admit it, you're a photo wiz because from what I read generations of 5d2 shooters had the same problem I'm experiencing ... note that I'm talking about micro-misses with a f2.8 lens here like on the eyes, not about "well, this looks fine" zoomed out on the camera display.

CarlTN said:
Are you shooting portaits in servo mode?

Hey, that's certainly a novel idea, I should try it some time :->

I know that you know, that I'm not talking "hey it's ok when viewed at display sizes".

Like I said, it's either you, or your lens...or both (or perhaps the AF sensor, some seem to have been faulty in the 6D). Certainly specific lenses can have issues with the 6D, no doubt about that. I just received my new 70-300L, and it seems to autofocus slower than my good old 70-200 f/4 (non IS). Of course it doesn't have a focus range limiter like the 70-200, so that's a factor. In low light though, the 70-300 has a definite problem hitting focus at all (with single shot center point), at least at 300mm. By comparison, the 70-200, even at 200mm (of course it's f/4 vs f/5.0)...it can autofocus better than anything else I've tried. Even with my Sigma 120-400, the 6D can autofocus with center point/single shot, on things I couldn't even see with my eyes through the viewfinder...Of course it didn't do it fast, it took a second or so. But that was at 400mm and f/5.6...and that lens is quite un-contrasty at the long end. At under 250mm it's got quite a bit of contrast.
 
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CarlTN said:
Certainly specific lenses can have issues with the 6D, no doubt about that. I just received my new 70-300L, and it seems to autofocus slower than my good old 70-200 f/4 (non IS).

No, it's not me, it's the camera not having a full cross point @f2.8 which produces micro-misses on low-contrast targets if the camera has to fall back of the f5.6 cross lines.

But if you talk about the 70-300L/4-5.6 or 70-200L/4 you don't seem to know or recognize at all what I'm talking about, I've also got the 70-300L and of course it works fine on the 6d as it's using the center point as cross... I also cannot say I find it slow on the 6D as others have reported, but I admit I didn't do any real tests on this.
 
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Marsu42 said:
CarlTN said:
Certainly specific lenses can have issues with the 6D, no doubt about that. I just received my new 70-300L, and it seems to autofocus slower than my good old 70-200 f/4 (non IS).

No, it's not me, it's the camera not having a full cross point @f2.8 which produces micro-misses on low-contrast targets if the camera has to fall back of the f5.6 cross lines.

But if you talk about the 70-300L/4-5.6 or 70-200L/4 you don't seem to know or recognize at all what I'm talking about, I've also got the 70-300L and of course it works fine on the 6d as it's using the center point as cross... I also cannot say I find it slow on the 6D as others have reported, but I admit I didn't do any real tests on this.

You're right then, I don't see why the center point isn't a "full cross point" at f/2.8. I thought it was. Or do you mean it's not a "double cross" point? The 5D2 didn't have any double cross points either, did it? The AF sensor in the 6D is an evolution of the 5D2's AF sensor...with a superior light sensitive center point. It's not a double cross...Are you saying somehow the 5D2's AF sensor had several f/2.8 cross points, or that any of them were double crosses? If true, I did not know that...
 
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