That really kills the likelihood Canon will launch any new enthusiast DSLR's IMHO.
I don't have any issues with Canon releasing a 7D replacement in RF. I just don't believe that it will be cheap for what people want from it. The days of the 7D series being cheap/fast/good AF and weather sealed are over.... and if I am wrong then everyone winsWell, Canon put the joystick back on the R5 after removing it from the R. I assume they did so because there was consumer demand for the joystick. I have not had any experience with the R5, but with the 1DxIII I find that in certain situations with fast moving subjects, I turn off the touch controller and use the joystick, which I find to be more controllable under these conditions. I also found that the touch screen selection on the R was very difficult to control with moving subjects as well. Finally, there seemed to be a lot of vocal demand for a joystick on this forum, so taking all of these in consideration, I believe Canon will include a joystick on the R7.
That is why I believe the resolution of an R7 will be important. It needs to have sufficiently high enough resolution to make it worth purchasing for bird and wildlife photographers. The R5 with a 1.4 converter has essentially the same reach as an APS-C sensor alone, so the benefit of the APS-C sensor is in cropping when reach limited. Shooting songbirds often requires some severe cropping, so the higher the resolution the better.
I know. That doesn't stop people from thinking EF-M is going away due to RF. Which is what I commented on.M series is selling a lot more cameras than the Rebel at this time
Aps-c was always really about price, my understanding is that price difference is much smaller now, those 600 & 800 lenses seemed to me to be an indicator, so what do I know!
But as it stands this only makes sense for wildlife and sports shooters. There are no APS-C lenses in the RF lineup, and nothing on the wider end (10mm) that would suit vloggers. You'll just be paying for bigger, heavier, more expensive glass that you aren't getting value from, and at that point you're better off going Sony or Fuji.
Why someone will buy APS-C mirrorless when RP and R both are in reachable price range... dont understand the concept
Have you even read any posts in this thread?This makes sense only with dedicated lenses. Cheaper, lighter package.
1: Less rolling shutter.
2: Higher video specs especially higher frame rates.
3: Faster flash sync speed.
4: Cost less.
5: Better magnification and framing in the viewfinder and back screen.
Why would that be? Even if it were less, in the smaller Form factor mentioned in the OP, even the same amount of heat as current offerings would become more challenging to deal with.Less heat (I'm not very much into video - but some will appreciate it).
I think you're agreeing with me!Price doesn't end with the camera. A 300mm lens mounted on a crop body will have the angle of view of a 500mm lens on FF. That's where the big price difference is, along with a size & weight difference.
This is I think aimed at wildlife / sports shooters like myself who are using cameras like the 7D mark ii with long EF lenses like the EF100-400 ii or the the EF400 f/5.6 (and teleconverters which work get with mirrorless) to give more reach especially for shooting small birds in flight.Cinema cameras aside, why?
Who want's this over full-frame? With today's processors, FF has proven to be just as performant as something like the 7D line. If you give me the "reach" argument, then I would give you the FF crop argument. If you give me the cost argument, then I point to the RP. Cheaper than that then you're going to have an up-hill battle against Fujifilm and Sony, or you know, Canon's M lineup.
I don't think it makes any sense, but maybe that's just me. I just hope they don't split their attention developing 'RF-S' lenses that are inferior in every way.
The only way it would be remotely interesting to me is if they made a really good, significantly more compact camera body with some really good, compact, L-glass (IE, competitive with Fuji's lenses), while also obviously maintaining the ability to use FF lenses. Then, maybe I'd justify one as a travel camera/backup body.
But seeing as how they never made L-glass for EF-S...
In other words, give me an RF line of APS-C lenses that can go toe-to-toe with Fuji X or GTFO.
Rebel line is dead , can't compete with smartphonesDoesn't sound like a 7d2 replacement to me, smaller or even same size as an RP? would R6 control and button layout fit? Now if it was same size and layout of R6 but with R5 construction that would be a replacement. So this sounds to me like the start of a rebel line
And slow autofocus compared with 7D2Assuming that the 5dsr actually can get the picture. The 7D2 has twice the FPS of the 5Ds and 5Dsr.
Or Canon's attempt to reinvent that market segment to something they hope the phone market will aspire to?Rebel line is dead , can't compete with smartphones
Yep , my dream camera is basically the R6 with a crop sensor (and no AA filter or ibis) and hopefully a bit cheaper than the R6Yes but why a smaller and therefore poorer handling body what is this obsession with teeny weeny
The sigma 18-35mm 1.8 and Canon 60mm macro are perfectly fine EF-S lenses to pair with a capable high end aps c body. The Canon 10-18mm isn't too bad either.I think will be well priced body for professional and enthusiast, who have expensive RF glass.
Nonsense buy this camera to use EF-s glass.
Yep , basically an R6 with a high quality crop sensor and No AA filter and no ibis please !If an R7 is coming I'd seriously consider an upgrade from my 7D2. I like to use fast crop cameras for birding...
This is it. Couldn't ask more.Yep , my dream camera is basically the R6 with a crop sensor and hopefully a bit cheaper than the R6