Are they that much cheaper to make though? And if the R7 includes a lot of the 'pro' features from the R5, I wonder how much cheaper overall it will be. Certainly more than the R6.APS-C sensors are cheaper to make
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Are they that much cheaper to make though? And if the R7 includes a lot of the 'pro' features from the R5, I wonder how much cheaper overall it will be. Certainly more than the R6.APS-C sensors are cheaper to make
I disagree with you over the MP and processor. The Canon 32 MP is 'difficult'. It needs high resolving power lenses. The 26 MP X-Trans on the Fuji kicks it out of the park.
Cinema cameras aside, why?
Who want's this over full-frame? With today's processors, FF has proven to be just as performant as something like the 7D line. If you give me the "reach" argument, then I would give you the FF crop argument. If you give me the cost argument, then I point to the RP. Cheaper than that then you're going to have an up-hill battle against Fujifilm and Sony, or you know, Canon's M lineup.
I don't think it makes any sense, but maybe that's just me. I just hope they don't split their attention developing 'RF-S' lenses that are inferior in every way.
The only way it would be remotely interesting to me is if they made a really good, significantly more compact camera body with some really good, compact, L-glass (IE, competitive with Fuji's lenses), while also obviously maintaining the ability to use FF lenses. Then, maybe I'd justify one as a travel camera/backup body.
But seeing as how they never made L-glass for EF-S...
In other words, give me an RF line of APS-C lenses that can go toe-to-toe with Fuji X or GTFO.
The wait for R5 was definitely worthwhile for me. I'm sure that moving to Sony (canon lenses) would been been okay but I am glad that I waited.With the exception of the MP there are cameras out there that fit the bill. X-T4 and X-T3 from Fuji. Why wait for Canon Vapourware, again.
I disagree with you over the MP and processor. The Canon 32 MP is 'difficult'. It needs high resolving power lenses. The 26 MP X-Trans on the Fuji kicks it out of the park.
Although the 7D came out at USD2k, what you are asking for is already above the R6. Full width 4K would either equate to 6+k raw (the 1DXiii's 20mp sensor is 5.5k raw) and/or downsampled 6k->4k video. With a higher res sensor and latest AF would need to push it above the R6 in pricing terms especially if weather sealing was included. Of course, it could be another unicorn like the 7D series.I would be very happy with an APSC camera in an R5 body. No need to be smaller. That's already smaller and lighter than a 7D.
Add a modern 24-28mp sensor with the latest AF, full width sharp 4K and price it under $2000.
Because the size and weight of the camera is an important "spec." I have an "R" and also an Olympus E-M1 II. My main camera is the Olympus because of the size and weight difference. When the R6 was announced, I was seriously interested in getting one to replace my R. When the size and weight were slightly more than the R, I decided not to get one. That was the determining factor. It doesn't have to be teeny weeny, but smaller and lighter would be welcome for many.Yes but why a smaller and therefore poorer handling body what is this obsession with teeny weeny
No. No reason.Would this mean Canon abandons the cheaper entry level FF RF, and replaces it with APS-C?
There is a marketing segment where Canon can state that the RP is the cheapest entry point into the RF multi-verse. Just like there are cheaper BMW/Audi/etc models to get people into their ecosystem. I can see a segment where there is both APS-C and full frame RF but they would need to have similar spec levels corresponding to their marketing segment. A 7D equivalent would between R6 and R5, and a cheaper one (with M6ii/90D sensor) in the RP body at an entry level.Would this mean Canon abandons the cheaper entry level FF RF, and replaces it with APS-C?
I didn't notice that issue moving from 7D to 5Diii. With crop you would be further away with the APS-C so not really in closeup range which can be useful not to disturb small subjects. But doesn't full frame give you the option of shallower depth of field but you can always close your aperture when you choose? APS-C won't give you the option of shallower DOF compared to FF.While not mentioned often, wider DOF is another reason to that a photographer might want an APS-C camera. About 6 years ago, I went from a crop rebel to the FF 6D. Very happy to be "upgrading"! Found out that it wasn't always the "upgrade" that I thought it would be. Found out it is really just another system alternative. For landscapes, it worked great - although there were times that I missed the extra reach. But what I really missed was the wide DOF. I shoot a lot of flowers. Not pure macro, but fairly close up. I found with an FF camera, I could not - in many cases - get the shot I could get with my crop rebel. Ended up getting a crop camera after all, and in those 6 years have owned both APS-C and M4/3. So, while FF certainly has advantages in many areas, it may not be the right camera in certain situations. And that is why some people want and need APS-C. Because it does some things FF can't do as well.
...but you're not buying a full frame camera. You're buying an APS-C sensor camera. Just one with an RF mount, engineered for full frame glass. Unless we're getting some RF-S lenses, I just don't see how it works - am I being dense? what am I missing?Because FF at the same pixel density is normally 1. much more expensive and 2. Slower frame rates due to the processor having to process many more pixels.
No. Different cameras for different uses.Would this mean Canon abandons the cheaper entry level FF RF, and replaces it with APS-C?
Spot on.Really hope this is a 7D style camera suitable for Birds in Flight and Macro
My hoped for specs :
Basically the R6 body and feature set including the Digic X processor and DPAFii
Aps-c sensor : either the 32mp one from 90D or preferably a new higher quality one of similar mp but better low light performance
No AA filter
No IBIS
In camera focus bracketing/stacking
Similar or slightly lower price than R6
Are you listening Canon ?
Please, pretty please !