Two Lenses to be Announced Shortly.....

[Woody]

Re: Two Lenses to be Announced Shortly..... *UPDATE*

24-105 L is 670 g (1.67 pound), the new rumored 24-70 f4L IS is 545 g (1.21 pound). Nearly a half pound lighter. That part would be good.

White box 24-105 can be gotten for maybe $950: a savings $100 (comparing apples to apples, savings of 200 over what the 24-105 USA is going for today at B&H).

If this new lens has better optical performance within its range, better IS, faster AF it might be of interest. Otherwise, the 24-105 is still worth the extra money for the extra range, imho. It all depends on how good the lens turns out to be.

Is this a replacement for the 24-105? Is it going to be the kit lens for the 6D instead of the previously mentioned 6D + 24-105? Or a different kit variant? Will Canon offer the 6D + 24-70 ff4L IS at significantly less than the $2899 pre-order pre-announced for the 6D + 24-105 f4L IS? The retail price difference of the lenses suggests 6D + 24-70f4L IS@ $2699 as an initial retail price.

If the 24-70 f/4L IS has better image quality (and it should since it has a shorter range than the 24-105 f/4L IS), weighs less, costs less and is available as kit lens of 6D, I'll get it in a heartbeat.

The new 50 f/1.4 IS sounds intriguing too.

Now, that's the way to go, Canon. Sony got it all wrong: fabulous sensors, decent cameras but no lenses.

 

[Ew]

If the 50 IS comes - it will be 2.0 or slower. We seem to be getting slower with IS on new glass.

 

[Daniel Flather]

14-24L? Don't tempt me!! But, if its not much better than the 14L prime, and it's $2900, then that's not too tempting.

 

[Woody]

If the 50 IS comes - it will be 2.0 or slower. We seem to be getting slower with IS on new glass.

I suspect it's because many folks want IS and reduced weight. I am not saying everyone is looking for those attributes, but statistically, that is probably the case.

For me, I will take a 50 f/1.4 over 50 f/2 IS any time. The 50 f/1.4 is sufficiently low weight for me.

 

[bvukich]

If the 50 IS comes - it will be 2.0 or slower. We seem to be getting slower with IS on new glass.

You're probably basing that on the 24/2.8IS & 28/2.8IS, but you have to remember fast standard primes are much easier (cheaper) to make and more necessary than fast wide primes. If there's any way they can keep it 1.4 and still meet their cost targets I'm sure they will.

 

[hmmm]

If the 50 IS comes - it will be 2.0 or slower. We seem to be getting slower with IS on new glass.

If the 50mm 1.4 IS is 1.4 it would sort of almost justify the $799 price tag. Any slower and: no.

 

[weekendshooter]

I'm really interested in seeing how the 24-70/4 IS performs, and at what price point. If it's reasonably sharp in the center wide open and across the frame by f/8 then it'll be a huge winner in this new era of less expensive full frame bodies.

Hopefully they cut fewer corners on IQ than Nikon did with its new 24-85; the size, weight, and price of that lens are phenomenal but the IQ is arguably worse than the 18-55 crop sensor kit lens... I really want a decent, affordable, reasonably-sized full-frame zoom but nobody seems to be willing to make one. Here's hoping Canon pulls through!

 

[dr croubie]

If the 50 IS comes - it will be 2.0 or slower. We seem to be getting slower with IS on new glass.

And don't forget that f/2.0 is the fastest that's ever been made with IS, if i'm not mistaken (the EF 200L IS f/2.0). Besides that, there's only a lot of f/2.8 with IS (17-55, 24, 28, 100L, 70-200L, 300L, 400L).
So even a 50mm f/2.0 IS might be pushing it (although 50mm is one of the easiest lenses to make fast, so 50mm f/2.0 IS might not be too hard). Alternatively, might we see a videographers' 50mm f/2.8 IS in the same vein as the 24 & 28 f/2.8 IS we got earlier? (and their pricetags?).
Noone's mentioned that 50mm f/1.3 rumours from last week either. If we get that, then the door's open for a 50/1.2L replacement at f/1.1 or f/1.0... (we wish)

 

[ddashti]

The 14-24 + 135 IS lenses would be something absolutely amazing to see Canon produce.

 

[JohnJ851]

I really doubt Canon delivering a 24-70 f/4 IS for $849 with the recent lens prices they charge. ???

JohnJ

 

[Daniel Flather]

I really doubt Canon delivering a 24-70 f/4 IS for $849 with the recent lens prices they charge. ???

JohnJ

The 24-105 is $1149 (bh) right now, so I too doubt $849.

 

[tron]

So instead of a 400 5.6L IS, 100-400 L II, 35 1.4L II, 14-24 we will get these 2 stupid lenses?

 

[jdramirez]

I wonder if they will discontinue the 50mm f/1.4. Considering the price difference, I can't imagine there will be that much of a demand for the IS.

 

[gaelv]

I wish a 50 macro to replace the old one. Canon has no EF lense (only the 60 EF-S) that is macro below the 100mm.

 

[Matthew Saville]

Anybody care to elaborate on what "shortly" means? The whole gist of this post makes it sound like it's a matter of hours. Should I be checking back at midnight eastern?

=Matt=

 

[gmrza]

If the 50 IS comes - it will be 2.0 or slower. We seem to be getting slower with IS on new glass.

You're probably basing that on the 24/2.8IS & 28/2.8IS, but you have to remember fast standard primes are much easier (cheaper) to make and more necessary than fast wide primes. If there's any way they can keep it 1.4 and still meet their cost targets I'm sure they will.

I wonder what the design/manufacturing challenges are for implementing IS on a lens as fast as f/1.4. IS would be nice on a 50 f/1.4, as that could give hand-hold-ability to somewhere in the region of 1/6 to 1/4 sec.

With a lens like that, I could see a lot of happy owners of the current 50 f/1.4 being prepared to buy a new lens.

 

[dr croubie]

With a lens like that, I could see a lot of happy owners of the current 50 f/1.4 being prepared to buy a new lens.

I've already got the EF 50/1.8, Takumars 50/1.4 & 55/1.8 & 55/2.0, FL 55/1.2, Zeiss 50/4.0 (x3), OM 50/3.5 macro, and just recently a Schneider Retina 50/2.8 (in the post).

And with all of them, even I'd be interested in an EF 50/1.4 IS. You can never have too many fifties...

 

[Portrait_Moments_Photogra]

With a lens like that, I could see a lot of happy owners of the current 50 f/1.4 being prepared to buy a new lens.

I've already got the EF 50/1.8, Takumars 50/1.4 & 55/1.8 & 55/2.0, FL 55/1.2, Zeiss 50/4.0 (x3), OM 50/3.5 macro, and just recently a Schneider Retina 50/2.8 (in the post).

And with all of them, even I'd be interested in an EF 50/1.4 IS. You can never have too many fifties...

so what would be your fave 50mm Croubie -

i just sold my sigma 50, coming from a 50L and the 50 1.8
i missed my 50's and I'm looking into buying another 50mm again

 

[bvukich]

With a lens like that, I could see a lot of happy owners of the current 50 f/1.4 being prepared to buy a new lens.

I've already got the EF 50/1.8, Takumars 50/1.4 & 55/1.8 & 55/2.0, FL 55/1.2, Zeiss 50/4.0 (x3), OM 50/3.5 macro, and just recently a Schneider Retina 50/2.8 (in the post).

And with all of them, even I'd be interested in an EF 50/1.4 IS. You can never have too many fifties...

You should change you name to dr c50ubie

 

[candyman]

Just recently bought the 135mm f/2 L
I can't imagine a 135mm f/2 IS. That would make this lens around 1800 to 2000 euro and more heavy too. If, then maybe f/2.8
I still consider my 24-105 f/4 a good value and would not trade it for the 24-70 f/4. I took it for the focal length at 105 that serves me well as a general purpose outdoors. But I can understand the 6D needs a lighter and smaller kit-lens.
As for the 50mm, I really like to see a f/1.4 better than the current version and competing the bokeh of the Sigma 50mm f/1.4. A lower aperture (i.e. f/2 and up) would not be attractive to me.
Now the 14-24 f/2.8 is a lens I really look forward to. But this kind of lens will probably not arrive in the next year (or two years)