*UPDATE* New High-End DSLR Later in February [CR3]

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keithfullermusic said:
I love rumors, but this one isn't very rumor-like. It's just saying that nothing is happening on the 7th. You can release one of these for about 360 days each year.

I see your point and I thought the same thing initially, but if you recall there have been at least a couple of rumours over the past couple of weeks saying that an announcement may be coming on Feb 7. So all he was doing is putting those rumours to rest. I think that's worthy of an update.
 
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etto72 said:
coltsfreak18 said:
For the moment, etto, it seems not. I haven't gotten any emails from CPS USA, and I am awaiting a reply to an email I sent to them concerning this perk.

Can you post when you get an answer about it?
Thanks!!
I still haven't gotten an email about it, but, when I called the CPS USA guy, he said that many of the emails haven't been sent quite yet. He also said a lot of people have been calling, but that he wasn't exactly sure of what was going on; because it is the weekend, the main office is closed, so he couldn't call them to glean more information.

He said that I should call back tomorrow, when they'd have more information, but he thought that the waiting list priority was for getting to the top of select retailers' product allocation lines.
 
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Agree on how poorly phrased this rumor is.

I still don't understand how a 22mpx full frame camera from Canon is expected to compete with a 36mpx camera from Nikon... Different leagues in terms of resolution. Also, with Nikon strongly rumored to be offering a camera without an AA filter it will distance itself from the new Canon entry even more so.
 
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Justin said:
Agree on how poorly phrased this rumor is.

I still don't understand how a 22mpx full frame camera from Canon is expected to compete with a 36mpx camera from Nikon... Different leagues in terms of resolution. Also, with Nikon strongly rumored to be offering a camera without an AA filter it will distance itself from the new Canon entry even more so.

I suspect that unless you are into seriously large prints or big crops you wont see any benefit from the extra mps. However you would see the benefit of an extra 2 stop of DR
 
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briansquibb said:
Justin said:
Agree on how poorly phrased this rumor is.

I still don't understand how a 22mpx full frame camera from Canon is expected to compete with a 36mpx camera from Nikon... Different leagues in terms of resolution. Also, with Nikon strongly rumored to be offering a camera without an AA filter it will distance itself from the new Canon entry even more so.

I suspect that unless you are into seriously large prints or big crops you wont see any benefit from the extra mps. However you would see the benefit of an extra 2 stop of DR
I agree wholeheartedly. Very few of these images ever get utilized at >7.2 megapixels (8x10 @ 300dpi). Comparatively though there are plenty of times, at least in my experience, that those extra stops would have let me get the picture I wanted.
 
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briansquibb said:
Justin said:
Agree on how poorly phrased this rumor is.

I still don't understand how a 22mpx full frame camera from Canon is expected to compete with a 36mpx camera from Nikon... Different leagues in terms of resolution. Also, with Nikon strongly rumored to be offering a camera without an AA filter it will distance itself from the new Canon entry even more so.

I suspect that unless you are into seriously large prints or big crops you wont see any benefit from the extra mps. However you would see the benefit of an extra 2 stop of DR

+1!

Really true, thinking about real world application.
 
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Although its worded a little akwardly, its is CR3 that a new high end camera is coming in February, just not on February 7 as per the previous rumor.

IF CR GUY had solid information about what model it was going to be, he'd tell you. That will likely be known in about 2 weeks. We are lucky to receive detailed information more than 1 week before the announcement.
 
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lbloom said:
briansquibb said:
Justin said:
Agree on how poorly phrased this rumor is.

I still don't understand how a 22mpx full frame camera from Canon is expected to compete with a 36mpx camera from Nikon... Different leagues in terms of resolution. Also, with Nikon strongly rumored to be offering a camera without an AA filter it will distance itself from the new Canon entry even more so.

I suspect that unless you are into seriously large prints or big crops you wont see any benefit from the extra mps. However you would see the benefit of an extra 2 stop of DR

+1!

Really true, thinking about real world application.

Read this: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/understanding-series/everything_matters__it_is_all_about_the_small_details.shtml

Also a link to the rumors of the rumored Canon sensor producing an extra 2 stops of DR over the rumored Nikon?
 
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Not to bash CR or anything, but I find that many times some rumors are poorly phased so that they ate misleading. I hope it's not the case this time as now it's CR3 saying that a new high-end camera in February. I just hope it's not like, wait, it should be later "than" February. ;D
 
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briansquibb said:
Justin said:
Agree on how poorly phrased this rumor is.

I still don't understand how a 22mpx full frame camera from Canon is expected to compete with a 36mpx camera from Nikon... Different leagues in terms of resolution. Also, with Nikon strongly rumored to be offering a camera without an AA filter it will distance itself from the new Canon entry even more so.

I suspect that unless you are into seriously large prints or big crops you wont see any benefit from the extra mps. However you would see the benefit of an extra 2 stop of DR

I suspect that 36MP vs 18MP would make about zero difference for low ISO DR and thus it is silly for either camp to argue against the other.
 
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I suspect that the new 5 will have neither a resolution nor a DR advantage.
we've never seen canon release new sensors with huge bumps in DR, and the current generation of canon sensors is around 1.5 stops behind.

I really hope canon has something up its sleeve this time.
 
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briansquibb said:
Justin said:
Agree on how poorly phrased this rumor is.

I still don't understand how a 22mpx full frame camera from Canon is expected to compete with a 36mpx camera from Nikon... Different leagues in terms of resolution. Also, with Nikon strongly rumored to be offering a camera without an AA filter it will distance itself from the new Canon entry even more so.

I suspect that unless you are into seriously large prints or big crops you wont see any benefit from the extra mps. However you would see the benefit of an extra 2 stop of DR

Monitors and other output devices will not stay the same. These devices (printers, beamers, montiors, tv, ...) will also have a higher resolution. You can already buy 4K monitors with about 4000px resolution.

You should keep it in your mind when you are taking photos for the future. You will not be limited by output devices. So think about the limitations of the input...
 
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Justin said:
Agree on how poorly phrased this rumor is.

I still don't understand how a 22mpx full frame camera from Canon is expected to compete with a 36mpx camera from Nikon... Different leagues in terms of resolution. Also, with Nikon strongly rumored to be offering a camera without an AA filter it will distance itself from the new Canon entry even more so.

It looks like Canon has decided that they will make more money from the people who need high ISO, rather then from the people who need a higher resolution.


If Nikon does indeed release a sensor with a maximum (analog) ISO of 6400, it means that either:
* They think the opposite of Canon (which is weird considering that so far they mostly released low resolution sensors).
* They (/ Sony) don't trust that the technology they have can go up to a maximum (analog) ISO of 51200** (like Canon has in 1DX), even at a low resolution. So, the only thing they can do to compensate is to increase the resolution to 36 MPs (and keep the noise at the level of D700). Certainly, by themselves the numbers don't mean anything beyond speculation, so we'll have to wait to see.

Alternatively (and highly unlikely), if we ignore the maximum 6400 ISO rumor, maybe Nikon found the magic recipe and can do both high resolution and high ISO.

** Even if the 3 stops in ISO difference is there only to allow people shooting in JPEG at a very high ISO, since Canon said that DIGIC 5 gives 2 extra stops, it still leaves 1 stop of analog advancement.
 
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The more I hear, the more I think we have a brand new camera coming... And not a 5D replacement one.

The 5D could stay as the "low priced" FF, the 3D could be a middle priced FF with the specs we've heard, and the 1DX stays on top.

If canon want to have three FF DSLR, we'll see a 3D, if the want to keep only two FF, we'll see a 5D3 or 5DX with some specs way better.

So there will be a real gap between the 7D and 5D...
 
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i really think that we might see 2 FF cameras. one the upgrade of the 5D3 and another one, which everyone is calling 3D. one announcement for the end of this month and another announcement in may/june

also we need to wait for a release date for 1Dx?
 
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